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Post by whit90 Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:49 pm

Serendipity11 wrote:Hey all, I'm back and can see that I've stirred up quite a fuss.  Man, I wish I had more specific information regarding the timing of the filming in Warsaw.  

I will say that I would be REALLY surprised if that filming was just for background/promo shots for Ben.  I know that his parents were told to prepare ahead of time to host for the HTD, and going to Baker Youth Club was something Ben had mentioned before leaving to be on the Bachelorette as a place he would take Kaitlyn IF he got to the HTD.  Then, the source who told me about the filming and that part of it had taken place at Baker Youth Club did not know that Ben had discussed going there before the show even started....so to me that confirms that it was in fact a HTD...

Now I guess there is some question as to when the filming actually took place, and like I said, my source thought it had happened the weekend in question, but it may have actually taken place a few days later...  Sorry I cannot be more specific :-/


Thanks Again for the info. I just wonder if your source actually saw a film crew there ? I think that would be hard to hide.
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Post by BlackHalo Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:59 pm

Serendipity11 wrote:Hey all, I'm back and can see that I've stirred up quite a fuss.  Man, I wish I had more specific information regarding the timing of the filming in Warsaw.  

I will say that I would be REALLY surprised if that filming was just for background/promo shots for Ben.  I know that his parents were told to prepare ahead of time to host for the HTD, and going to Baker Youth Club was something Ben had mentioned before leaving to be on the Bachelorette as a place he would take Kaitlyn IF he got to the HTD.  Then, the source who told me about the filming and that part of it had taken place at Baker Youth Club did not know that Ben had discussed going there before the show even started....so to me that confirms that it was in fact a HTD...

Now I guess there is some question as to when the filming actually took place, and like I said, my source thought it had happened the weekend in question, but it may have actually taken place a few days later...  Sorry I cannot be more specific :-/

Thanks for the update! Smiley

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Post by emusha Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:15 pm

Thanks for the update Serendipity! Any info is better than no info Smiley We're just trying to piece it together and cos it's not fitting with the old schedule we're trying to figure out how it does fit...they're playing around with the filming schedule, that's for sure, we'll just have to keep digging. I am confident with all the smart sleuthers here it's only a matter of time till it all makes sense -- even if it will be once we get the longer promo/screenshots from the premier!

It sounds like your source either heard about the filming from someone or they observed them setting up for the filming, which one is correct?

The way you talk about Ben makes him sound like a great person - I'm looking forward to watching him on the show Smiley
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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:40 pm

Kashathediva wrote:Per OfficeRules
I could be wrong, but I don't think people are speculating that they stopped filming for ten days.  They may have filmed FDs during that quiet week.

We have the spoiler from GA (I think it was you, pls correct me if I am wrong) who said that HTDs will be filmed next week.  That does not seem to fit your schedule, does it?   

All that we know for sure is that we don't know much.
Good post. This is about all we know. 
Until we get some data/facts, we can have fun speculating. 
Maybe strong warnings were issued this season regarding SM usage and confidentiality clauses, unless it was totally authorized by TPTB. Maybe a lot of red herrings were thrown out, just for the mind fork. Maybe they continued to twist things up, switching schedules or even switching up HTD to other locales. 
I don't think they stopped filming for 10 days. That would be a horrible waste of time and more importantly money. 
Eventually, someone non-show related will site cast filming and out and about. Until then speculate away.  Smiley
That was basically my point all along. They wouldn't of stopped doing the filming, so if they did do FD's, then how in the heck can Nick's camp know about a HTD when there were still 2 RC's yet to have. Now, I am also bringing in the Radio Show with this comment. That show already knew that Nick would have a HTD when the epi 7 RC as well as maybe a FD RC hadn't happened. Because of that, I am really suspicious is all.


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Post by GuardianAngel Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:48 pm

No one said they stopped filming.



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Post by Kashathediva Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:57 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:Per OfficeRules
I could be wrong, but I don't think people are speculating that they stopped filming for ten days.  They may have filmed FDs during that quiet week.

We have the spoiler from GA (I think it was you, pls correct me if I am wrong) who said that HTDs will be filmed next week.  That does not seem to fit your schedule, does it?   

All that we know for sure is that we don't know much.
Good post. This is about all we know. 
Until we get some data/facts, we can have fun speculating. 
Maybe strong warnings were issued this season regarding SM usage and confidentiality clauses, unless it was totally authorized by TPTB. Maybe a lot of red herrings were thrown out, just for the mind fork. Maybe they continued to twist things up, switching schedules or even switching up HTD to other locales. 
I don't think they stopped filming for 10 days. That would be a horrible waste of time and more importantly money. 
Eventually, someone non-show related will site cast filming and out and about. Until then speculate away.  Smiley
That was basically my point all along.  They wouldn't of stopped doing the filming, so if they did do FD's, then how in the heck can Nick's camp know about a HTD when there were still 2 RC's yet to have. Now, I am also bringing in the Radio Show with this comment.  That show already knew that Nick would have a HTD when the epi 7 RC as well as maybe a FD RC hadn't happened.  Because of that, I am really suspicious is all.
Very easily. 
TPTB call up and say we are interested in filming your HTD at this date ________. Keep this time period open. 
That does not mean it will happen, strange things and dismissals can still happen. Or it could mean in certain seasons the main has no real interest in some of the F4 or F3 so they(TPTB) can pretty much say the HTD/FD of that cast person will be that date. 
Almost every season we hear from cast how actual little time they spend with the main, so it is not at all strange to think the main pretty much knows who is going to be F1/F2 episodes out. The F3/F4 gives good tv or the lead for the next season. Not hard to conceive in my opinion.



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Post by emusha Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:15 pm

I also think it's not beyond the margins of possibility that Kaitlyn sent home more guys than normal/or the same number of guys in the second week in Ireland and then decided that she'll not send any of the F4/F3 home for the next two episodes so production then told their family to get ready for HTDs...

It could play out that they still dramatize and do an RC but K decides not to send anyone home -- BachNz did that this first season I believe...
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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:27 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:No one said they stopped filming.

GA, I wasn't saying that either. I was just putting forth that there is a gap between epi 7 and HTD's that are maybe starting on the 28th so what in the heck have they been doing in the meantime is all. I was trying to put out thoughts/ideas without saying that anything is for certain.


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Post by KB_Mom Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:58 pm

The only thing I feel sure of at this point is that Fleiss shuffled the deck from the usual pattern and that there will be some real twists this year with order of\number of FDs and HTDs.  Not the usual tweets about twists and kabooms that turn out to be nothing.

I feel like there was a deliberate plan from the beginning to "spoil" the early part of the season, with all of the very public dates and even a public RC, and now it's like Kaitlyn and her F6 have fallen off the face of the earth. Meanwhile, Elan has done everything short of putting his bowel movements on periscope or IG, so we know exactly where he is. 

Fleiss is up to something big time IMO. Maybe decided it was time to "kaboom" RS again but instead of leaking a false spoiler, filming for F6 on will be so clandestine that RS won't have any spoilers from F6 on. RS has been posting and tweeting about everything under the sun except what is going on with show.  no no

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Post by GuardianAngel Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:58 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:No one said they stopped filming.

GA, I wasn't saying that either.  I was just putting forth that there is a gap between epi 7 and HTD's that are maybe starting on the 28th so what in the heck have they been doing in the meantime is all.  I was trying to put out thoughts/ideas without saying that anything is for certain.

I understand, but we know there's a gap. We've been discussing this gap for pages and days if not two weeks. We've been asking what they heck are they doing. Some of us begged family friends to pm us with info. No names required, just info. Not much is certain at this point. We are all speculating on a lot of the if's and's and but's.

KB_Mom wrote:The only thing I feel sure of at this point is that Fleiss shuffled the deck from the usual pattern and that there will be some real twists this year with order of\number of FDs and HTDs.  Not the usual tweets about twists and kabooms that turn out to be nothing.

I feel like there was a deliberate plan from the beginning to "spoil" the early part of the season, with all of the very public dates and even a public RC, and now it's like Kaitlyn and her F6 have fallen off the face of the earth. Meanwhile, Elan has done everything short of putting his bowel movements on periscope or IG, so we know exactly where he is. 

Fleiss is up to something big time IMO. Maybe decided it was time to "kaboom" RS again but instead of leaking a false spoiler, filming for F6 on will be so clandestine that RS won't have any spoilers from F6 on. RS has been posting and tweeting about everything under the sun except what is going on with show.  no no

:stirthepot :con1:

I totally agree KBMom. We were discussing this initially. Since when does MF give us everything on a silver platter as he did with SM invites to dates. It's obvious RS hasn't been his usual self this season. console

I'm sure we haven't seen the last of MF's plan.


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Post by emusha Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:44 pm

spitcoffee @ that console emoticon re: RS rotfl

good points KB - I think there's something quirky going on this season will be exciting to watch it get unveiled little by little...
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Post by MVMom39forever Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:46 am

KB_Mom wrote:The only thing I feel sure of at this point is that Fleiss shuffled the deck from the usual pattern and that there will be some real twists this year with order of\number of FDs and HTDs.  Not the usual tweets about twists and kabooms that turn out to be nothing.

I feel like there was a deliberate plan from the beginning to "spoil" the early part of the season, with all of the very public dates and even a public RC, and now it's like Kaitlyn and her F6 have fallen off the face of the earth. Meanwhile, Elan has done everything short of putting his bowel movements on periscope or IG, so we know exactly where he is. 

Fleiss is up to something big time IMO. Maybe decided it was time to "kaboom" RS again but instead of leaking a false spoiler, filming for F6 on will be so clandestine that RS won't have any spoilers from F6 on. RS has been posting and tweeting about everything under the sun except what is going on with show.  no no

:stirthepot :con1:

I absolutely love it! Last season was completely spoiled and ratings were at all time low. I have always avoided episode spoilers because they made the actual viewing boring. If I knew person was getting boot and had date that episode, no point imo to watch date.

I think season will be so much more fun to keep some mystery and go back to old fashioned studying of screencaps, etc.

First time ever I root for Fleiss and production to keep the mystery going!!!
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