Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Episode - 11 - LCD - FRC - ATFR #2 *Spoilers - Sleuthing*- Discussion

northernviewer wrote:I don't believe that Chris was trying to draw an "I love you" out of Becca for some cash either. That's a certain kind of low that I just don't think Chris would stoop to.  

I think Becca could be Chris's "Molly" and I have a feeling that he might try to contact her after him and Whit breaks up, if she's still single that is.

bleuberry wrote:Some will think Becca was his true love, others will say her story merely filled the same f2 role we get season after season. I don't think we're ever going to agree, nor will we ever know the truth. My guess is somewhere in the middle - they had something, but clearly not what the show tried to hurriedly sell us on Monday night.

Aaaand this is officially my final post in this thread, see you next season folks.

2observe wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I don't believe that Chris was trying to draw an "I love you" out of Becca for some cash either. That's a certain kind of low that I just don't think Chris would stoop to.  

I think Becca could be Chris's "Molly" and I have a feeling that he might try to contact her after him and Whit breaks up, if she's still single that is.

I do remember reading something awhile back that as an incentive, the Leads get more money for getting the each of F3 to confess their love for the Lead.  However, I think that Chris' incentive was to get Becca as the next Bachelorette.

2observe wrote:

sfrank wrote:

Chris' contract requires that he show up and make appearences on behalf of the show.

It does not require him to keep telling people he didn't decide until shortly before the FRC that it was going to be Whitney.  It does not require him to say that he told his family certain things about his feelings for Becca that made them think he would pick her.  It does not require that he continue to vigioursly defend his feelings and the connection he had with Becca when asked if it was just "the chase" and wanting something he couldnt have.

He could easily downplay his feelings or use the outs he has been giving him to make the woman at his side, his fiancé, feel special. He's not. He saying these things because it's the truth.

Chris S still has to keep with company line(lies) during interviews.  

lexforlife wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Some will think Becca was his true love, others will say her story merely filled the same f2 role we get season after season. I don't think we're ever going to agree, nor will we ever know the truth. My guess is somewhere in the middle - they had something, but clearly not what the show tried to hurriedly sell us on Monday night.

Aaaand this is officially my final post in this thread, see you next season folks.

Next season where we will rehash the same ole same ole and some will believe the lead is in love with the F2 etc

2observe wrote:

hmbach wrote:



No way I believe that.  TPTB may have wanted him to get them all to say it, but in B's situation HE really wanted to know.  JMO. And the best part of that is that Becca held her ground and was honest with him even to the end.  

Believe it. ETA:  Remember it's a TV Show and viewers are manipulated to see and believe what production wants the masses to see.  However, there of those who know about what really happens behind the scene and are not easily "sucked" in the "fake" story-lines.  Imo, the storyline with Chris and Becca was no different from the storyline with Des and Brooks.  In both cases, neither Brooks or Becca were willing to open up to the process.    Do you really believe that TPTB didn't know that they wouldn't???  People were and some still are convinced that there was a love-story between Des and Brooks.   They are put thru lots of psychological testing that would identify those types of issues.  jmo

Kashathediva wrote:

2observe wrote:

hmbach wrote:



No way I believe that.  TPTB may have wanted him to get them all to say it, but in B's situation HE really wanted to know.  JMO. And the best part of that is that Becca held her ground and was honest with him even to the end.  

Believe it. ETA:  Remember it's a TV Show and viewers are manipulated to see and believe what production wants the masses to see.  However, there of those who know about what really happens behind the scene and are not easily "sucked" in the "fake" story-lines.  Imo, the storyline with Chris and Becca was no different from the storyline with Des and Brooks.  In both cases, neither Brooks or Becca were willing to open up to the process.    Do you really believe that TPTB didn't know that they wouldn't???  People were and some still are convinced that there was a love-story between Des and Brooks.   They are put thru lots of psychological testing that would identify those types of issues.  jmo

ITA.
Not to mention on almost every one of the last few RC Whitney was first rose.
F3 RC sealed if for me. The choice was between K and B. W was never in question.

lexforlife wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Some will think Becca was his true love, others will say her story merely filled the same f2 role we get season after season. I don't think we're ever going to agree, nor will we ever know the truth. My guess is somewhere in the middle - they had something, but clearly not what the show tried to hurriedly sell us on Monday night.

Aaaand this is officially my final post in this thread, see you next season folks.

Next season where we will rehash the same ole same ole and some will believe the lead is in love with the F2 etc

soccermom333 wrote:^^^^  Hahaha!  At this point opinions will not be swayed.  Either you saw the love between Whit and chris or Chris and Becca.  Same for past seasons.  Some saw the love between Josh and Andi and knew Nick was a non-factor.  Same thing with each season imo.  ;)

I think at this point most will agree that time will tell.  I wish the final couple the best.  

sde1041 wrote:

lexforlife wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Some will think Becca was his true love, others will say her story merely filled the same f2 role we get season after season. I don't think we're ever going to agree, nor will we ever know the truth. My guess is somewhere in the middle - they had something, but clearly not what the show tried to hurriedly sell us on Monday night.

Aaaand this is officially my final post in this thread, see you next season folks.

Next season where we will rehash the same ole same ole and some will believe the lead is in love with the F2 etc

Or....some will believe the lead is in love with his/her F1 !!!  :bigsmile:

hmbach wrote:

lexforlife wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Some will think Becca was his true love, others will say her story merely filled the same f2 role we get season after season. I don't think we're ever going to agree, nor will we ever know the truth. My guess is somewhere in the middle - they had something, but clearly not what the show tried to hurriedly sell us on Monday night.

Aaaand this is officially my final post in this thread, see you next season folks.

Next season where we will rehash the same ole same ole and some will believe the lead is in love with the F2 etc

I disagree.  I have watched this show before and have never been as intrigued by a lead/F2 relationship.  Either the TPTB REALLY stepped up their "game" this season with a great actress/actor in Becca and Chris or this was something special. W though I feel was super scripted. JMO.

IMO it was a beautiful, sad story. Congrats to TPTB if it was all on account of them.