Re: Bachelor 19 - Becca Tilley #7

by Jolena Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:52 am

see2love wrote:
MonicaJM2001 wrote:Lol Chris can't act. he could barely wrestle out words when speaking to the women. also ATFR was the perfect chance to stand firm with choosing Whitney by answering an emphatic "NO" when CH asked if it would be different had Becca "gottenyhere" but instead we got uhhh i don't know uh just want to move forward....
And this is what bothers me the most! Here is your chance to make it right and say Whitney was always your choice and he cant even manage that.

I refuse to believe he wouldnt have chosen Becca if she was as forthcoming as Whitney of chris himself cant say otherwise.

I disagree. it was never going to be Becca. Yes he liked & respected Becca ( who wouldn't). TPTB wanted Becca (the virgin) to get to the end, not necessarily Chris. The lead has a job to do with whoever TPTB want him to do it with., and he did it well. For him to switch up the story line post show and say what he was really feeling all along would not bode well for him or the story TPTB wanted to portray , and I'm sure Whitney knows that. For him to say at ATFR " Whitney was always MY choice " would hurt Becca and go against what TPTB wanted this season to be shown as. ( have to look beyond the EDIT). If Im not mistaken I think that Chris has said in other interviews ( don't know where I heard it or read it ) that he knew "early on " that Whitney was his F1. jmo

by Mommyof2 Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:55 am

Here is an interview with Becca:

http://www.people.com/article/bachelor-finale-runner-up-becca-reacts-chris-decision-whitney

by hmbach Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:55 am

Litta123 wrote:
cindebugg wrote:
Chrisbecca wrote:

The BODY LANGUAGE Chris displayed when he was with Becca seemed more natural, manly and sensual than anything I saw when he was with Whitney. Alot of their interactions seemed forced and he came across as passive! This is whats tripping me up! LOL. If Becca and Chris were acting in their body language....they did a heck of a job!

"seemed" being the operative word. This isn't the first time that the lead and F2 get the more physical/chemistry edit. Emily and Arie, Andi and Nick, Travis and Moana, Bevin and Andy etc, etc, etc. Editing is magic. It can make certain things appear and it can make things disappear. This is why the old time sleuthers preach to look beyond the edit. It's not to be trusted.

Lesson learned....the hard way.

I'm still scratching my head over Chris actually proposing -- not because of Whitney* -- but because he was in such a state of turmoil emotionally. It's not a great place to be when making such an important life decision. As it has been mentioned, all those crying scenes in the barn from the previews were cut. To me, those had to be about Becca. It makes no sense to me otherwise...why would he be crying like that if he wasn't experiencing a sense of loss. In the past, he shed tears for hurting the girl, but did he think he hurt Becca? Doubtful to me that those tears were all about her feelings. I think they were tears over what might have been. Throw in the fact he was pleading with Becca to get answers the night before the FRC leads me to wonder if DWTS was TPTB's carrot to get him to propose. (I think lurker's comments about Chris not being liquid rich are spot on. I can see DWTS having great appeal on multiple levels.)

*I actually do believe that Whitney and Chris have a shot in the real world. They want the same things in life; and once the spotlight is off them, they have a chance to build a solid relationship. Whitney has shown her fortitude in how she has handled all that life has thrown at her. I don't think she will crumble under this. If she continues to want a life with Chris then I don't see her quitting. I think Chris needed to get Becca out of the way in order to fully give his heart to Whitney. I think he is on his way. I didn't see him as a deer in the headlights last night, but rather as a man who is emotionally and physically exhausted. To be clear, Whitney is not a default F1. Chris rejected what Becca was offering and chose a life with Whitney. He chose her.

Sorry, I know this Becca's thread...so forgive me for getting off track. I'm actually excited for what the future holds for Becca. Personally, I don't see Becca's lack of tears as her just going through a role. In her exit interview, she indicated that she was experiencing a state of shock -- probably from GG's death and Chris's rejection. From what I see on her SM, her strength comes from within. Even in the hardest times, there can be a sense of peace. I see her as processing what just happened and her trying to make some sense out of it. It doesn't mean she wasn't feeling deeply. She just wasn't crushed by it all.

Good thoughts. I do think he was heartbroken and I do think DWTS was a carrot... probably meant for Becca actually though (it would have given them a chance in the real world and given B more time) but in the end he was too afraid of giving up the opportunity that was Whitney, which makes me hopeful that he will learn to love her. I just hope she doesn't do the same thing to him when she starts feeling like the second choice. I do personally think that there were tears shed by Becca, she was just strong enough not to let the cameras see it. Speaks again to her strength and self confidence to me.

by soccermom333 Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:57 am

^^^ I disagree Jolena and think it would have been Becca IF she would have agreed to an engagement. Bottom line though, he chose whitney. I also wish he would have answered the question better and said "no, I still would have picked Whit." I think the way he answered might come back to haunt him. Still wishing the final couple luck because I think they will need it. ;) JMHO

by atem Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:58 am

Mommyof1 wrote:Here is an interview with Becca:

http://www.people.com/article/bachelor-finale-runner-up-becca-reacts-chris-decision-whitney

Great, but short interview. Thanks for sharing it.

by bleuberry Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:59 am

I saw that Becca said she was bummed about something Sean and Cat tweeted but I didn't see anything terrible so figured she was joking, but now they've apologized... what tweets were 'disappointing?'

by Mommyof2 Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:59 am

Whitney fans, I feel your pain. I was in your shoes during JPG's season, defending him and Nikki until the cows came home. giggling

Shout out to notarose!

I just wish since Whit was F1, she would have received a better edit.

by mindless Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:59 am

Litta123 wrote:*snipped*

Sorry, I know this Becca's thread...so forgive me for getting off track. I'm actually excited for what the future holds for Becca. Personally, I don't see Becca's lack of tears as her just going through a role. In her exit interview, she indicated that she was experiencing a state of shock -- probably from GG's death and Chris's rejection. From what I see on her SM, her strength comes from within. Even in the hardest times, there can be a sense of peace. I see her as processing what just happened and her trying to make some sense out of it. It doesn't mean she wasn't feeling deeply. She just wasn't crushed by it all.

ITA. You could see the disappointment in her eyes when he went from praising her to saying it wasn't gonna work out. There was a light that disappeared. She's just not one to resort to self-pity. I loved how she acknowledged that there's a part of her that thinks he loved her. She felt it and I think that's why she was even more hesitant to give him any false hope. She wanted him to choose her only if he knew exactly what he'd be getting himself into. He didn't, so I don't think she had any real "what if's". There's nothing more she could've done without being dishonest. That must've given her peace. JMO.

by Jolena Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:00 am

see2love wrote:We can blame the edit all we want but why is Chris still unable to say he would still have chosen Whitney over Becca? He cant because it would be a lie. He wanted Becca and his parents who were not watching an edited version saw that. They knew he wanted Becca at MTP and that is that.

One parent ALWAYS says something negative about the "F1" to raise doubt with the viewers. and vice versa, the F2 gets some praise. recently, Andi's father praised NICK and Andi's mother called Josh a loud mouth coming in all sweaty ect. laugh out loud

So What Chris's father said was for the sake of the show, like all the other parents before him have done. ( some are just more convincing on the screen then others). The parents know who the F1 is going to be before both of them even get to MTP. Their excitement when they meet the F1 is always a dead give away , for me it is anyway. jmo

by Guest Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:00 am

From the people interview with Becca

Tilley says of an enamored Soules (who pleaded, "I want everything you can give me"), "I wished I could have told him what he needed to hear. But it would have been unfair of me. With him sitting there, begging me, it would have been so easy for me to just be like, 'Okay, I am in love with you.' But if I lied about how I was feeling, it was just going to be a disservice to us when it was all over."

It was hers to lose and everyone, Chris, Becca, MF, CH, including his parents knew it

by atem Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:01 am

bleuberry wrote:I saw that Becca said she was bummed about something Sean and Cat tweeted but I didn't see anything terrible so figured she was joking, but now they've apologized... what tweets were 'disappointing?'

I didn't know about that. I hope someone will be able to provide info on that.

by soccermom333 Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:02 am

Mommyof1 wrote:Here is an interview with Becca:

http://www.people.com/article/bachelor-finale-runner-up-becca-reacts-chris-decision-whitney

Thanks for this. Interesting how she says he "was begging her." Hmmm, I know Becca is being honest and this just shows how torn Chris was and what he wanted to hear from her.

Happy Becca is happy with her decision but sad that she says she was willing "to date" him. Again, she didn't fit with the show and a proposal at the end.

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