Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Episode 4 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

ironcat wrote:

livlafluv1 wrote:

Max64 wrote:


I'm really disappointed in the women that were cast this season.  The only "normal" ones there are Whitney, Becca, and Jade, which coincidentally all happen to be in his F4.  

And the same 3 were a part of the group who met his sisters. In his blog he says that his sisters gave him their opinions about all the girls they met. The only one of the f4 they didn't meet was Kaitlyn.

ETA: just realized 5 out of f6 were in the group that met his sisters. The other 2 the sisters met were cut that episode.

It was clear to me that Chris put the women he was truly interested in as wife material in the group that met his sisters, and of that group, only Whitney was ineligible to be picked for the date since she had just had one (I suspect his sisters were told this).  So to me this was an indication that Chris wanted his sisters to meet her nevertheless (btw, wasn't she a lookalike for one of his sisters?).  I'm not surprised then that his sisters picked Jade for the date, because the impression she gave them was as a fellow mid-western, corn-loving sweet shy young lady, and NOT someone who poses spread eagle nude for cash.

Also not surprising that, despite her raunchy behavior, Kaitlyn got the GDR out of the other group of women (most of whom he's probably already dismissed as future wife material, but he's got to keep SOMEBODY).  He actually enjoys her company, the rest of them are about as interesting as paint drying (and yeah, he's not that much more interesting himself).  But him not having her also meet his sisters indicated to me that he's not quite sold on her as a wife.  I think at this point (and perhaps all the way to F4), his top 2 are Whitney and Jade, (and Becca will take third once he gets to know her better), but Jade will be dismissed once he finds out she's not exactly how she presented herself.

luvstx wrote:

ironcat wrote:

livlafluv1 wrote:

And the same 3 were a part of the group who met his sisters. In his blog he says that his sisters gave him their opinions about all the girls they met. The only one of the f4 they didn't meet was Kaitlyn.

ETA: just realized 5 out of f6 were in the group that met his sisters. The other 2 the sisters met were cut that episode.

It was clear to me that Chris put the women he was truly interested in as wife material in the group that met his sisters, and of that group, only Whitney was ineligible to be picked for the date since she had just had one (I suspect his sisters were told this).  So to me this was an indication that Chris wanted his sisters to meet her nevertheless (btw, wasn't she a lookalike for one of his sisters?).  I'm not surprised then that his sisters picked Jade for the date, because the impression she gave them was as a fellow mid-western, corn-loving sweet shy young lady, and NOT someone who poses spread eagle nude for cash.

Also not surprising that, despite her raunchy behavior, Kaitlyn got the GDR out of the other group of women (most of whom he's probably already dismissed as future wife material, but he's got to keep SOMEBODY).  He actually enjoys her company, the rest of them are about as interesting as paint drying (and yeah, he's not that much more interesting himself).  But him not having her also meet his sisters indicated to me that he's not quite sold on her as a wife.  I think at this point (and perhaps all the way to F4), his top 2 are Whitney and Jade, (and Becca will take third once he gets to know her better), but Jade will be dismissed once he finds out she's not exactly how she presented herself.

I haven't been paying close attention to all of the posts si just wondering if it's been spoiled that Jade's past is revealed to Chris before the taping ended.

luvstx wrote:

ironcat wrote:

livlafluv1 wrote:

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mtnlvr55 wrote:

luvstx wrote:


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I don't think we have any proof that he was told before he let her go, but since he took her to his hometown to the football game and a number of people saw her with him, I suspect somehow the message was filtered down to him by his family. Since the F4 rose ceremony was  in Dubuque and since it appears at that same time at least Kaitlyn (and possibly others)made a trip to his hometown (screencap of Kaitlyn running down the street) it seems likely that someone told him about her past.

ironcat wrote:

It was clear to me that Chris put the women he was truly interested in as wife material in the group that met his sisters, and of that group, only Whitney was ineligible to be picked for the date since she had just had one (I suspect his sisters were told this).  So to me this was an indication that Chris wanted his sisters to meet her nevertheless (btw, wasn't she a lookalike for one of his sisters?).  I'm not surprised then that his sisters picked Jade for the date, because the impression she gave them was as a fellow mid-western, corn-loving sweet shy young lady, and NOT someone who poses spread eagle nude for cash.

Also not surprising that, despite her raunchy behavior, Kaitlyn got the GDR out of the other group of women (most of whom he's probably already dismissed as future wife material, but he's got to keep SOMEBODY).  He actually enjoys her company, the rest of them are about as interesting as paint drying (and yeah, he's not that much more interesting himself).  But him not having her also meet his sisters indicated to me that he's not quite sold on her as a wife.  I think at this point (and perhaps all the way to F4), his top 2 are Whitney and Jade, (and Becca will take third once he gets to know her better), but Jade will be dismissed once he finds out she's not exactly how she presented herself.

eta, I was surprised that Chris put Jillian in the group that met the sisters, but then he mentioned before their date that he had her in his top 3, based on the little he knew of her.  Obviously that changed quickly once they spent more time together.  She comes across older, but at 25, she is really not ready to settle down and move to Iowa (nor should she be).

I am finding Chris to be far more dull and less articulate (again with the I's ) than I had hoped, and he is no doubt following the producers' suggestions to the letter (including the encouragement to kiss as many women as he wants and to drink a lot), but I totally believe he'd like to find a wife out of this.  I don't think he has ever had, or thinks he will have again, the opportunity to meet this many beautiful "hot" women, all of whom claim they want to marry an Iowa farmer, and he'd really like to weed through them and land one who is compatible to his life style, as well as beautiful.

Sprite wrote:

ironcat wrote:

It was clear to me that Chris put the women he was truly interested in as wife material in the group that met his sisters, and of that group, only Whitney was ineligible to be picked for the date since she had just had one (I suspect his sisters were told this).  So to me this was an indication that Chris wanted his sisters to meet her nevertheless (btw, wasn't she a lookalike for one of his sisters?).  I'm not surprised then that his sisters picked Jade for the date, because the impression she gave them was as a fellow mid-western, corn-loving sweet shy young lady, and NOT someone who poses spread eagle nude for cash.

Also not surprising that, despite her raunchy behavior, Kaitlyn got the GDR out of the other group of women (most of whom he's probably already dismissed as future wife material, but he's got to keep SOMEBODY).  He actually enjoys her company, the rest of them are about as interesting as paint drying (and yeah, he's not that much more interesting himself).  But him not having her also meet his sisters indicated to me that he's not quite sold on her as a wife.  I think at this point (and perhaps all the way to F4), his top 2 are Whitney and Jade, (and Becca will take third once he gets to know her better), but Jade will be dismissed once he finds out she's not exactly how she presented herself.

eta, I was surprised that Chris put Jillian in the group that met the sisters, but then he mentioned before their date that he had her in his top 3, based on the little he knew of her.  Obviously that changed quickly once they spent more time together.  She comes across older, but at 25, she is really not ready to settle down and move to Iowa (nor should she be).

I am finding Chris to be far more dull and less articulate (again with the I's ) than I had hoped, and he is no doubt following the producers' suggestions to the letter (including the encouragement to kiss as many women as he wants and to drink a lot), but I totally believe he'd like to find a wife out of this.  I don't think he has ever had, or thinks he will have again, the opportunity to meet this many beautiful "hot" women, all of whom claim they want to marry an Iowa farmer, and he'd really like to weed through them and land one who is compatible to his life style, as well as beautiful.

Well said. You have summed up my thoughts. The only think that surprised me was that Chris said that Jillian was in his top 3. I have no idea where that came from based on what we have seen. It really made me curious as to who else might have been there if she was.

ironcat wrote:



eta, I was surprised that Chris put Jillian in the group that met the sisters, but then he mentioned before their date that he had her in his top 3, based on the little he knew of her.  Obviously that changed quickly once they spent more time together.  She comes across older, but at 25, she is really not ready to settle down and move to Iowa (nor should she be).



I agree too!  Sums up my thoughts as well.  My take on Jillian being on that date last night was he knew he would be letting her go.  The likelihood of Jillian winning that obstacle course was pretty high, so I thought it was more of a planned exit.  In any of the conversations Chris has had with Jillian he's shown zero interest in her so I don't believe she was in his top 3