Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #3

[klarson79]

who was there to comfort her after B*Hole?

who was there to accept she made a mistake and move on and was the first one to tell?

who is she always touching (top shoulders in the swimming pool, holding his arms at wedding group dates etc)?

who does she want to meet the family SO BAD?

who is the one that she was thinking of during half of the date with another guy because it was an overnight

who is the one she wanted to comfort by giving him a rose because it BROKE HER HEART?

who is the one she is holding for dear life in front of his family?

I can go on and on and on.....

Yup...and those examples aren't even the ones that convince me it's JP!!! It's everything AFTER the show that convinces me. In words and actions.

[northernviewer]

Again, as posted before, the Fleiss tweets make the dating confusing.

May 10 - Just ran into Ashley H. on the beach. Nice pins!
May 11 - Just shot the finale. OMG!!!
May 13 - Feels good to be done with another great season. Can't wait for u all to see it

It does appear that Fleiss is HIDING something here...

Well, for one thing, the last tweet is from Chris Harrison and is dated May 12. So I don't exactly think you have your facts straght to fit this particular fantasy of yours.
http://twitter.com/#!/chrisbharrison/status/68607477230481408

@chrisbharrison Chris Harrison
Feels good to be wrapped on another season of #bachelorette. Yes it was the most dramatic finale ever! Let's head home people
12 May via Echofon

first of all wow! all of the above tweets are correct. It appears that MF's tweet was done on the actual day of the finale, CH's was probably done after midnight, so it was technically the 12th and MF's tweet from the 13th I'm pretty sure was determined to be after he'd crossed the international date line. All of our wonderful little electronic devices seem to know exactly which time zone we're in depending on the satellites they are picking up... now isn't modern technology a wonderful thing...even though it apparently confuses many people

[Shelby]

Do you really think that they are tweeting their emotions right on the spot?

I think that Fleiss has an agenda and know when to text and what. Same with CH.

It is all planned and never spontaneous!

ads and rates, no more

[Jeepers]

Disagree

[Shelby]

that is okay. everyone is entitled to their opinion ;)

[JBF]

Again, as posted before, the Fleiss tweets make the dating confusing.

May 10 - Just ran into Ashley H. on the beach. Nice pins!
May 11 - Just shot the finale. OMG!!!
May 13 - Feels good to be done with another great season. Can't wait for u all to see it

It does appear that Fleiss is HIDING something here...

Well, for one thing, the last tweet is from Chris Harrison and is dated May 12. So I don't exactly think you have your facts straght to fit this particular fantasy of yours.

http://twitter.com/#!/chrisbharrison/status/68607477230481408

@chrisbharrison Chris Harrison
Feels good to be wrapped on another season of #bachelorette. Yes it was the most dramatic finale ever! Let's head home people
12 May via Echofon

Yup, he's on to us...

It looks like you uncovered a little Fleissian "tampering" here...

Fleismeister deleted this tweet for some reason. No clue why. In fact, there is an interesting "gap" in his tweets that week in May. Hmmmm... what exactly is he hiding?

May not be anything important. Could even be an accident... or the two or three of us posting a while back on that thread made a goof. (Maybe only I made the goof.) However, it looks like May 12-14 are days of Great Mystery...

For the record, Fleiss uses "u" a lot. Harrison uses "w" a lot. Bet that will change quickly once they are on to us again.

[albean99]

I just noticed something interesting (to me at least). I'm sorry that I have no idea how to put a circle around it but look at the folds on these sleeves.



Near the top of the sleeve there's a funny fold that's different looking from the rest. You may have to use your browser to zoom in a little.



There appears to be the same fold in this shot (right above the 2) and we know this is GSG and almost certainly JP.

I believe it's JP with his hands in his pockets in both. That changes things because the first shot was thought to be Ben.

[ironcat]

I just noticed something interesting (to me at least). I'm sorry that I have no idea how to put a circle around it but look at the folds on these sleeves.



Near the top of the sleeve there's a funny fold that's different looking from the rest. You may have to use your browser to zoom in a little.



There appears to be the same fold in this shot (right above the 2) and we know this is GSG and almost certainly JP.

I believe it's JP with his hands in his pockets in both. That changes things because the first shot was thought to be Ben.

Folds are caused in the top of the sleeve of a man's suit jacket when he raises his arm/elbow, even slightly (due to a lot of stiffness/padding/lining in the shoulder region of the jacket), which would occur when he puts, or has, his hands in his pockets, with his elbows bent. In both photos, the guy probably has his hand(s) in his pockets (one we can obviously see is the case, the other is a presumption that you kind of just proved with the other photo). It's not unique, it will happen with any guy wearing a typical men's suit. It doesn't prove it's the same guy, or the same suit, just that the 2 guys are probably doing the same thing.

[albean99]

I just noticed something interesting (to me at least). I'm sorry that I have no idea how to put a circle around it but look at the folds on these sleeves.



Near the top of the sleeve there's a funny fold that's different looking from the rest. You may have to use your browser to zoom in a little.



There appears to be the same fold in this shot (right above the 2) and we know this is GSG and almost certainly JP.

I believe it's JP with his hands in his pockets in both. That changes things because the first shot was thought to be Ben.

Folds are caused in the top of the sleeve of a man's suit jacket when he raises his arm/elbow, even slightly (due to a lot of stiffness/padding/lining in the shoulder region of the jacket), which would occur when he puts, or has, his hands in his pockets, with his elbows bent. In both photos, the guy probably has his hand(s) in his pockets (one we can obviously see is the case, the other is a presumption that you kind of just proved with the other photo). It's not unique, it will happen with any guy wearing a typical men's suit. It doesn't prove it's the same guy, or the same suit, just that the 2 guys are probably doing the same thing.

I know what you're saying but what are the odds that it will look exactly the same on 2 different guys with 2 different suits? I tried it with 2 of my dh's suit jackets and while there was a deeper fold on each of them, it was a long straight fold and not anything like this one. I think it's at least something to consider.

[Fleurdesel]

I just noticed something interesting (to me at least). I'm sorry that I have no idea how to put a circle around it but look at the folds on these sleeves.



Near the top of the sleeve there's a funny fold that's different looking from the rest. You may have to use your browser to zoom in a little.



There appears to be the same fold in this shot (right above the 2) and we know this is GSG and almost certainly JP.

I believe it's JP with his hands in his pockets in both. That changes things because the first shot was thought to be Ben.

Folds are caused in the top of the sleeve of a man's suit jacket when he raises his arm/elbow, even slightly (due to a lot of stiffness/padding/lining in the shoulder region of the jacket), which would occur when he puts, or has, his hands in his pockets, with his elbows bent. In both photos, the guy probably has his hand(s) in his pockets (one we can obviously see is the case, the other is a presumption that you kind of just proved with the other photo). It's not unique, it will happen with any guy wearing a typical men's suit. It doesn't prove it's the same guy, or the same suit, just that the 2 guys are probably doing the same thing.

The thing that I'm always noticing each time I see this SC, is that Ashley is frowning, she seemed to be concerned by what JP is expressing. It gives me the impression that although she's acknowloging his feelings, she's sorry about "something" that does not seem to get settled during that conversation as we don't see Ashley saying anything before he steps away...If JP is her F1 and he walks away, she just might be running after him to express her love... OR if he's F2 and JP walks away, she runs to give both of them closure... OR we will see nothing of what we saw in that preview..

[ironcat]

Well, to me it doesn't look exactly the same at all, GSG's creases are more horizontal and numerous, but if the weight and fabric of the suits are similar, they will probably crease in a similar way, whereas different fabrics will crease differently. Not to mention how the suit fits the wearer, how tight or loose it is, particularly under the arms, might affect how much it creases. And how high the guy raises his arms of course.

Feel free to consider it though, but I don't think it's pertinent. JMO.

[albean99]

Well, to me it doesn't look exactly the same at all, GSG's creases are more horizontal and numerous, but if the weight and fabric of the suits are similar, they will probably crease in a similar way, whereas different fabrics will crease differently. Not to mention how the suit fits the wearer, how tight or loose it is, particularly under the arms, might affect how much it creases. And how high the guy raises his arms of course.

Feel free to consider it though, but I don't think it's pertinent. JMO.

It's the curvy part of the fold that I think looks the same in both. It's hard to match the number of folds because we're given limited shots. Obviously not exactly the same time because she's not pushing back her hair in the GSG one.

This is what sleuthers do. We scrutinize things (sometimes obsessively - if my dh only knew, lol). You don't have to have the same interpretation that I do of course.

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