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Post by Guest Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:34 pm

4health - did you happen to do similar analysis for Andi's season or B-Aus?

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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:59 pm

4Health, thanks for all your work there. Seems a lot of things that go hmmm... I can see it go either way but I can also see Tim being single. I think it is rather odd to be hosting girls-night outs at clubs...

Friday night at Cube
Saturday night at Uniun or however one spells it... (looks pretty crazy there too)

But, that is just me. I really wouldn't want to be dating or engaged to someone that hosts these things. Seems like better options out there for a love-story show...
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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:02 pm

Aww, April posted on her IG a photo of her holding her (relative's/friend's) baby and the little one is wearing 'Bachelor' little long sleeve t-shirt and holding a red rose. Too cute.
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Post by 4health Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:12 pm

Tim's Preview Finale

Tyler introduces two ladies
the fun loving Trisha or the mysterious April Trisha & Bianka spoken first
1st scene date with Tim & Trisha picnic kissing Trisha's date is first just like Bianka
VO of Trisha "my relationship with Tim has gotten to that next level"
scenes of trisha, tim & horses, kissing scene VO of Trisha "I am in love with him" if you watch both previews very similiar
SC April & Tim kissing sunset picture kissing [color=#ff0066]this picture is almost exactly like Whitney & Brad's kissing sunset dark[color=#ff0033]
4 - 5 SC of Tim & April's yacht date VO April "hopefully the guy I am looking for to spend the rest of my life with" April VO "I am in love with Tim" this is almost exactly like the snippets of Brad & Whitney's date and no really snippets like this for Trisha or Bianka
VO Tim starts over SC of April & Tim kissing in water yacht date "This week I will make
=cut= Tim alone reflecting on beach
"most important and difficult decision I have ever had to make"
=cut=
VO Tim "I am falling in love with very two different women" 1 SC of April running to Tim 1 SC of Tim running to hug Trisha
=cut=ring shot/shopping
Scenes of Trisha & Tim from picnic date VO Tim says "I am crazy about Trish" what is so interesting is this is the only place you hear Tim express his direct feelings about someone and then state concern, just like Brad does for Bianka
Scene of Trisha & Tim you see Trisha talk about head & heart "I love you but my head says it crazy" then VO of Tim "she has to believe to take a chance on us"=cut= ITM purple background "and believe it just as much as I do."
Scene of Tim & April yacht date says "Im scared" Tim says "I know"
SC April alone, SC Tim alone Tim VO "I need to know that April is here with me spit thoses fears." he has never expressed his direct emotional feelings for April
=cut=MTP
Scenic view of Moorea
1st Scene is Tim & Trisha at the door [color=#ff0033]Trisha is first just like Bianka[color=#ff0000]
2nd Scene is Tim & Trisha with the whole family (parents) sitting on the couches Trisha & Tim with family just like Bianka no one else
VO of mother "about concerns" SC of Tim & April on couch
SC of mother alone
SC of Trisha alone
VO of mother "seeing these women it's a lot to take in" SC of mother
scene of Tim asking about the front door who do you see
Scene of Trisha hugging mother positive Trisha just like Bianka
April & Tim at the door shaking hands VO of mother "I don't think she is ready for"
=cut= SC of mother "full life commitment"
SC of Trisha laughing
April is shown alone SC when asked question
Dad asking question
Drama shown with April
SC of mother saying "I don't know, I don't know"
ITM with purple background of April crying "feeling pressure"
SC of Tim & April kissing in stateroom  VO of Tim "we are so close"
ITM Tim with purple background "and so far"
ITM April still crying
Tim wanting to talk with April VO Tim "I haven't seen April this upset"
All the different SC of April & Tim in her room
SC of Tim on dock with the ring
Ends with Tim on the dock
"I think I want to go home" SC of Moorea
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So I am going to highlight and comment what I think are similiar to Brad's season. So much is so similiar to the same style of edit ..... Bianka had a lot of SC missing during her FD & LCD same as Trisha this time around also.

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Post by 4health Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:26 pm

sophienette wrote:4health - did you happen to do similar analysis for Andi's season or B-Aus?

I use to do years ago in the US shows but when editors changed and the production changed it wasn't as obvious to me....as for the AUS series I did do it it was very similiar patterns in the edit....the difference was Mr. Blake's season was extremely long and more episodes so it made it tough.

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Post by 4health Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:31 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:4Health, thanks for all your work there. Seems a lot of things that go hmmm... I can see it go either way but I can also see Tim being single. I think it is rather odd to be hosting girls-night outs at clubs...

Friday night at Cube
Saturday night at Uniun or however one spells it... (looks pretty crazy there too)

But, that is just me. I really wouldn't want to be dating or engaged to someone that hosts these things. Seems like better options out there for a love-story show...

If listen to Brad & Bianka's interview after the show with coastal you will hear about the big ole party for them. Bianka had big viewing parties and she was engaged.....I am a big square so I can understand your thought process but I was engaged and a long distance relationship and if I couldn't be with him I still went dancing and out with friends and we have been married for 25+ years....it is called trust.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:32 pm

4health wrote:Tim's Preview Finale

.....
scenes of trisha, tim & horses, kissing scene VO of Trisha "I am in love with him" if you watch both previews very similiar
SC April & Tim kissing sunset picture kissing [color=#ff0066]this picture is almost exactly like Whitney & Brad's kissing sunset dark[color=#ff0033]
4 - 5 SC of Tim & April's yacht date VO April "hopefully the guy I am looking for to spend the rest of my life with" April VO "I am in love with Tim" this is almost exactly like the snippets of Brad & Whitney's date and no really snippets like this for Trisha or Bianka
...

OK I see patterns but I think you are not looking or commenting 100% objectively... :hidingchair

You write "April VO "I am in love with Tim" this is almost exactly like the snippets of Brad & Whitney's date and no really snippets like this for Trisha or Bianka

but 2 lines above we have "VO of Trisha "I am in love with him""...

Am I missing something?

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Post by 4health Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:33 pm

sophienette wrote:
4health wrote:Tim's Preview Finale

.....
scenes of trisha, tim & horses, kissing scene VO of Trisha "I am in love with him" if you watch both previews very similiar
SC April & Tim kissing sunset picture kissing this picture is almost exactly like Whitney & Brad's kissing sunset dark
4 - 5 SC of Tim & April's yacht date VO April "hopefully the guy I am looking for to spend the rest of my life with" April VO "I am in love with Tim" this is almost exactly like the snippets of Brad & Whitney's date and no really snippets like this for Trisha or Bianka
...

I will go look again...I might have put it in the wrong spot if so I will edit it

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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:35 pm

4Health, if you go to SC thread you will see that I combined VO, ITM, etc with SCs/scenes so one can see what is said or not said with what image/SC 

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From quickly looking, spotted some errors:
1) left out from your summary is "I need to ask you some pretty hard questions" VO of mom. From the SCs it lets you know whom the mom is talking to based on what she is wearing. Her clothes for the hard questions and concerns is shown with Trish both times. The cut to April there is no actual VO from the mom. Just watched it again. 
2) "As a mother always concerned" VO of mom scene shown is Tim and Trish. Only after VO does scene cut to Tim and April.
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Post by Kashathediva Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:39 pm

Thank you 4Health for your analysis! Smiley



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Post by 4health Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:40 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:4Health, if you go to SC thread you will see that I combined VO, ITM, etc with SCs/scenes so one can see what is said or not said with what image/SC 

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From quickly looking, spotted some errors:
1) left out from your summary is "I need to ask you some pretty hard questions" VO of mom. From the SCs it lets you know whom the mom is talking to based on what she is wearing. Her clothes for the hard questions and concerns is shown with Trish both times. The cut to April there is no actual VO from the mom. Just watched it again. 
2) "As a mother always concerned" VO of mom scene shown is Tim and Trish. Only after VO does scene cut to Tim and April.

AAL...this was not a SC verbatim analysis like yours. It is the edit of things that happen....my point is in the preview April was edited as the drama the same as Whitney.....I wasn't matching what was being said during the SC to indicate anything directly pointing to one person or one scene. Just plain and simple April had the drama with parents in the preview just like Whitney did, then also the drama of Tim going and talking with April just like Brad was shown going to talk with Whitney and that it ended in a question just like Brad's season.....it isn't the same question or the same issues but it similiar to the same edit of presenting the preview thats it

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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:45 pm

Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense now. 

Regarding the two errors. Even without images seen, VO of mom talking about concerns is with Tim and Trish. With hard questions ITM from Mom it is with Trish scene (even without analysing clothes the scene shows Trish). Just those two things I noticed that were stated with Tim and April but were with Tim and Trish.
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