Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - Tim Warmels - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Trisha

And Trish has 52% of the virtual roses right now...

true!

Handing her a virtual vase.

both!

ps: as long as everyone is happy *today* and at peace. I am okay no matter who tim will pick. I just hope he was a gentleman with the F2.

Kashathediva wrote:Handing her a virtual vase.

sophienette wrote:Could I ask posters who think maybe "blog gate" wasnt actually a "blog gate": what did you think about "video gate" (NickV) (and later "Golden Ribbon gate" - yes I know I just made it up but that was my 200% proof!), "fridge gate" (while Chantal was Brad's spoiled F1), "photo gate" (Ben F proposing to Courtney) and "necklace gate" (Sam's in Bach Aus 2)?

I simply want to try and figure out when does a proof become a proof, or if that is never?

And to clarify:
I am not saying you dont have the right to doubt any of these, just wondering what it would take to be 100%?

Sophie to answer your question.....I am never a 100% sure until the FRC is shown.  I can be 99% and a 1% unsure but to think or post as a 100% fact I can't do.   I posted that the Trisha fans have already had our shocker when the blog gate happen and was at 100%. This board turned into a party for the April fans and all sleuthing of the next week stopped with the exception of dresses.   After reading blogs and re-watching and looking at ITM's PI's etc of the FD and what was said in the blog gate that small percent came back to a few of us.  So why not keep sleuthing and speculating because like many have said "it isn't over until the fat lady sings'......When there are questions that haven't been answered for us we keep going.   As for the things you asked I will give you my thoughts:  "video gate" Nick V - believed it, "golden ribbon" - believed it, saw it, "fridge-gate" saw it believed it,  "photo-gate" believed it, "necklace gate" believed it,  so yes I saw and believed them but I did not say that I was at 100% proof or that each of those were my favorite to get the final rose.    The difference I believe for this season is each of those gates you mentioned were done or involved the person doing it.  The blog gate wasn't April doing the posting of the blog.  So there is always room to doubt it. If you are at 100% that is awesome then no worry.

joshfan wrote:

atem wrote:I noticed that April liked on FB someone's post from the filming crew together.  That was nice.

Ever since I found out you can see what a person liked on facebook, I went and looked at April's.  She sure wants to travel!  

How do you look at someone's likes? To me her profile is so private

On the facebook search bar put 'liked pages by April Brockman' and you will see them!

4health wrote:

sophienette wrote:Could I ask posters who think maybe "blog gate" wasnt actually a "blog gate": what did you think about "video gate" (NickV) (and later "Golden Ribbon gate" - yes I know I just made it up but that was my 200% proof!), "fridge gate" (while Chantal was Brad's spoiled F1), "photo gate" (Ben F proposing to Courtney) and "necklace gate" (Sam's in Bach Aus 2)?

I simply want to try and figure out when does a proof become a proof, or if that is never?

And to clarify:
I am not saying you dont have the right to doubt any of these, just wondering what it would take to be 100%?

Sophie to answer your question.....I am never a 100% sure until the FRC is shown.  I can be 99% and a 1% unsure but to think or post as a 100% fact I can't do.   I posted that the Trisha fans have already had our shocker when the blog gate happen and was at 100%. This board turned into a party for the April fans and all sleuthing of the next week stopped with the exception of dresses.   After reading blogs and re-watching and looking at ITM's PI's etc of the FD and what was said in the blog gate that small percent came back to a few of us.  So why not keep sleuthing and speculating because like many have said "it isn't over until the fat lady sings'......When there are questions that haven't been answered for us we keep going.   As for the things you asked I will give you my thoughts:  "video gate" Nick V - believed it, "golden ribbon" - believed it, saw it, "fridge-gate" saw it believed it,  "photo-gate" believed it, "necklace gate" believed it,  so yes I saw and believed them but I did not say that I was at 100% proof or that each of those were my favorite to get the final rose.    The difference I believe for this season is each of those gates you mentioned were done or involved the person doing it.  The blog gate wasn't April doing the posting of the blog.  So there is always room to doubt it. IMO

When sleuthing has been going on for several months, and all the facts line up, there will always be a party for the speculated F1. The party for J/A started before the premier aired, that didnt' stop sleuthing. It's just those who are certain don't feel there is anything more to sleuth other than go back and pick up more clues.

But you're right, sleuthing doesn't and shouldn't have to stop if there are those who feel there is a chance. It happens in all seasons, the majority will celebrate and rightly so. Some are celebrating the fact that their hard work has paid off and nothing more.

As far as the 100%, I'm with you on that. I don't like to see 100% sure unless there's proof and not just an opinion. That is why you'll often see me question posters comments, not because I'm criticizing it's because I want to know if they have inside info or is it just an opinion.

4health wrote:

sophienette wrote:Could I ask posters who think maybe "blog gate" wasnt actually a "blog gate": what did you think about "video gate" (NickV) (and later "Golden Ribbon gate" - yes I know I just made it up but that was my 200% proof!), "fridge gate" (while Chantal was Brad's spoiled F1), "photo gate" (Ben F proposing to Courtney) and "necklace gate" (Sam's in Bach Aus 2)?

I simply want to try and figure out when does a proof become a proof, or if that is never?

And to clarify:
I am not saying you dont have the right to doubt any of these, just wondering what it would take to be 100%?

Sophie to answer your question.....I am never a 100% sure until the FRC is shown.  I can be 99% and a 1% unsure but to think or post as a 100% fact I can't do.   I posted that the Trisha fans have already had our shocker when the blog gate happen and was at 100%. This board turned into a party for the April fans and all sleuthing of the next week stopped with the exception of dresses.   After reading blogs and re-watching and looking at ITM's PI's etc of the FD and what was said in the blog gate that small percent came back to a few of us.  So why not keep sleuthing and speculating because like many have said "it isn't over until the fat lady sings'......When there are questions that haven't been answered for us we keep going.   As for the things you asked I will give you my thoughts:  "video gate" Nick V - believed it, "golden ribbon" - believed it, saw it, "fridge-gate" saw it believed it,  "photo-gate" believed it, "necklace gate" believed it,  so yes I saw and believed them but I did not say that I was at 100% proof or that each of those were my favorite to get the final rose.    The difference I believe for this season is each of those gates you mentioned were done or involved the person doing it.  The blog gate wasn't April doing the posting of the blog.  So there is always room to doubt it. If you are at 100% that is awesome then no worry.  

I guess that is where I am lost in a sleuthing, speculation thread so please help me, speculating isn't fact, interpretation of a kiss, or a look, or a edited statement clip as fact, it is an interpretation/opinion how is that facts.  When a speculated F1 is determined and the majority believes it then it does become a fan thread.  JMO  If someone interprets it differently, their opinion, if it isn't the majority then it isn't fact.  So, majority rules in this case.   I agree that all the hard work and it paying off is deserving of celebrating, but a different thread might be a better place to party.  IMO So the minority continued to sleuth and posters then question our sleuthing style and saying why aren't we at 100% like them before the end is truly final.   There is always going to be two side to every story and then don't forget the middle.  That in my opinion is where the truth/fact lies.

Per 4Health:

I guess that is where I am lost in a sleuthing, speculation thread so please help me, speculating isn't fact, interpretation of a kiss, or a look, or a edited statement clip as fact, it is an interpretation/opinion how is that facts. When a speculated F1 is determined and the majority believes it then it does become a fan thread. JMO If someone interprets it differently, their opinion, if it isn't the majority then it isn't fact. So, majority rules in this case. I agree that all the hard work and it paying off is deserving of celebrating, but a different thread might be a better place to party. IMO So the minority continued to sleuth and posters then question our sleuthing style and saying why aren't we at 100% like them before the end is truly final. There is always going to be two side to every story and then don't forget the middle. That in my opinion is where the truth/fact lies.

Yes, speculations are someone's opinions based on how they interpret.
Because a majority believe something is one way---does not mean this now becomes a fan thread. And until the Fat Lady sings speculation is speculation. Posters can roll their eyes behind the computer screen, but we don't roll our eyes through our keyboard and posting.  Respecting others opinions are important, for each side of the fence.
A fan thread per site rules is discussion only of a positive nature for the cast listed in the topic.
A discussion thread is a discussion that can be positive or negative in nature, but does not veer off into discussing other members/posters.
You can say you like Charile Brown and think Snoopy is a parasite, but you don't denigrate, snark, get sarcastic with the person posting it.
If someone wants to celebrate the relationship between Charlie Brown and Snoopy and throw a party--good for them. If another poster does not like this---they can skip the post!! They can Foe the member who they disagree with.
There are constructive ways of dealing with this.

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Kashathediva wrote:Per 4Health:

I guess that is where I am lost in a sleuthing, speculation thread so please help me, speculating isn't fact, interpretation of a kiss, or a look, or a edited statement clip as fact, it is an interpretation/opinion how is that facts. When a speculated F1 is determined and the majority believes it then it does become a fan thread. JMO If someone interprets it differently, their opinion, if it isn't the majority then it isn't fact. So, majority rules in this case. I agree that all the hard work and it paying off is deserving of celebrating, but a different thread might be a better place to party. IMO So the minority continued to sleuth and posters then question our sleuthing style and saying why aren't we at 100% like them before the end is truly final. There is always going to be two side to every story and then don't forget the middle. That in my opinion is where the truth/fact lies.

Yes, speculations are someone's opinions based on how they interpret.
Because a majority believe something is one way---does not mean this now becomes a fan thread. And until the Fat Lady sings speculation is speculation. Posters can roll their eyes behind the computer screen, but we don't roll our eyes through our keyboard and posting.  Respecting others opinions are important, for each side of the fence.
A fan thread per site rules is discussion only of a positive nature for the cast listed in the topic.
A discussion thread is a discussion that can be positive or negative in nature, but does not veer off into discussing other members/posters.
You can say you like Charile Brown and think Snoopy is a parasite, but you don't denigrate, snark, get sarcastic with the person posting it.
If someone wants to celebrate the relationship between Charlie Brown and Snoopy and throw a party--good for them. If another poster does not like this---they can skip the post!! They can Foe the member who they disagree with.
There are constructive ways of dealing with this.

The below comment is for everyone to remember.
There is an suggested etiquette posting section. Please familiarize yourself with this. There are some very valuable points here.
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Thank you Kasha