Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - Tim Warmels - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Trisha

Kashathediva wrote:I don't understand the timing issue myself.
Is this episode the same length of time the first Bach Can finale was?
IF so why can't it be done following the same format??
If they were able to do the first Bach Can finale in an hour, I would think they would be able to do this one in an hour with the same number of cast.
Editing can certainly get it in. They can do lots of VO's during a lot of things and literally show very little.  
No one needs to be shown getting ready. This actually has been cut out of Bach AM many times. Vo's of uncertainties and reassurances can be done in seconds during the walk or ride to the FRC, as well as by the main during ring purchase.
Example: Tim being shown getting ring. He has vo saying blah blah blah about one girl then the next. His feelings of girls expressed.
Girl shown in limo going to FRC --saying blah blah blah. Girl being--dismissed.
Girl getting ready addressing in VO how she got over insecurities, in limo happiest day yada yada.
Frc--I love you and yada. Spin. The end.
Chop chop chop.
It they had room last week for all those silly clothes changes etc. I believe this will be a piece of cake.

blah blah blah chop chop chop

ITA...a piece of cake.....

HEA wrote:what if the blog posted was for Trish and not April and they made a mistake? I re-read it and there is nothing that distinct april from trish in the text... No mention of the breakdown, doubts or trust or anything related of what happened few days before the proposal.... mentioning following their hearts... which Trish mentioned clearly (My heart says ILY, but my head says it is crazy).

what if...

from "I want to go home" "I can't do this" "I am in the right path" I am overwhelmed" "I cannot proceed my F* thoughts", mute girl with his parents, cold goodbyes after the parents meeting... I mean it is A LOT to take in and from that going straight to accept the proposal and the ring??? WOW

But I saw Trish in her evening light blue dress, I saw Tim very sure of himself to pick the ring (unless it was before FD and MTP), Trish thanking her girlfriends bettes to vote for her,  I heard Trish that they had "sexual chemistry" which for me gives me no doubt about what happened in the FD bedroom (yet we did not see the candles and petals, why was it hidden?) but then he would offer the FD key bedroom to april too? really?

I know everything points to a reconciliation with tim and april and a chocking ending like every single bachelor franchise dream to have for their finale. My head understand the logic, but my heart says another story... haha

I am completely utterly confused right now.

Well, the fact that only April mentioned 'unconditional' love?

What's confusing about it? Someone goofed up and put up the wrong blog for April.

richmondrose wrote:If I had to guess, 4health, while they were filming in Moorea and Michael Hill was there, they were doing some promo shots with Trish wearing his jewelry. Possibly that's why she's in that dress which some believe is a FRC gown by Terani.

Wearing jewelry from Italy, that could be possible and why it could be one her dresses she brought with her from her highlight video.  Oh man so many possibilities.....

Rolly wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I don't understand the timing issue myself.
Is this episode the same length of time the first Bach Can finale was?
IF so why can't it be done following the same format??
If they were able to do the first Bach Can finale in an hour, I would think they would be able to do this one in an hour with the same number of cast.
Editing can certainly get it in. They can do lots of VO's during a lot of things and literally show very little.  
No one needs to be shown getting ready. This actually has been cut out of Bach AM many times. Vo's of uncertainties and reassurances can be done in seconds during the walk or ride to the FRC, as well as by the main during ring purchase.
Example: Tim being shown getting ring. He has vo saying blah blah blah about one girl then the next. His feelings of girls expressed.
Girl shown in limo going to FRC --saying blah blah blah. Girl being--dismissed.
Girl getting ready addressing in VO how she got over insecurities, in limo happiest day yada yada.
Frc--I love you and yada. Spin. The end.
Chop chop chop.
It they had room last week for all those silly clothes changes etc. I believe this will be a piece of cake.

blah blah blah     chop chop chop

ITA...a piece of cake.....

Seriously, based on the ending of the part 1 episode they are going to chop, chop, chop like we have never seen before and get right to it. April was tired of Tim talking, talking, talking. She said there is nothing he can say. Yup, time for some action Tim. Time to act on all these promises and trust, trust, trust, leaps of faith, faith, faith. Imo, we will see Tim have to make good on his promises and jump into action real quick.

sophienette wrote:

But as sleuthers we sleuth what we do have.

Exactly.

richmondrose wrote:If I had to guess, 4health, while they were filming in Moorea and Michael Hill was there, they were doing some promo shots with Trish wearing his jewelry. Possibly that's why she's in that dress which some believe is a FRC gown by Terani.

IA. Unless Tim was made by production to take Trish to FRC or have her get dressed in FRC before letting her go, I believe as stated before that the dress is not FRC dress and we probably won't even see the dress at all if there is no FRC for Trish if Tim lets her go before all that. From what happened with April, Tim is going to have to make good on his promise to April and leap into action real quick. Time for talking was over, imo when it came to April upset and to stop her from leaving Tim would either have to leave with her or act on his promise and get her to stay.

Even without the blog-gate, Tim was on his knees (literally) promising April they'll get through this and not knowing then she was the one for him? Not even probable, imo. He knew. No need to make any promise to someone that wants to leave if you don't know. And if he didn't know before then, he certainly realized it for himself. He couldn't let her go.

Below is what Tim said in an interview post-FRC in September 18 article that I posted in the thread awhile back but ties into what happened with April and Trish.

Imo:
- The first two sentences are about April (doesn't want it to end = "don't go yet", "I promise you we will get through this together")
- The sentence about past relationships is about Trish - very happy, very comfortable, very loving.

How do you know when you’ve found the one?

Tim Warmels: That’s a very gut feeling thing. I think one day you just wake up and you think to yourself  “This is a good thing that I don’t want to have end at any point.” My relationships before this are what really taught me that I really am ready for something for the rest of my life. They were happy relationships and for that period of time in my life, they were very comfortable and very loving and very happy relationships, so it was hard to leave them. But it was because I knew that down the road there was something missing from it that wouldn’t leave me satisfied.

.. and in the same article Tim talks about how marriage is not about being happy but getting through the tough times. We saw this with Trish (happy) we saw this with April (the tough times).

As a kid, you think everything’s happy-go-lucky and then you see that it takes real devotion to keep a relationship going and keep it loving.

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You've made some good points AAL. I like to see two sides of the coin, so to speak and when I see Tim running through the bushes and the rest of the kerfuffle, I take it at face value the first time I see it, But once it's sunk in, skeptical side of me kicks in and then imagine the producers whispering in Tim's ear that he should get there pronto and stop her from leaving at any cost to keep the story going until the finale.

Editing can certainly get it in. They can do lots of VO's during a lot of things and literally show very little.  

Yes I think they'll start with a VO of Tim explaining how scared he was that April would really leave. Then he'll say that he reminded her to take a leap of faith with him (or some such).
(1 minute.)
We'll see a hug and a kiss.  (1 minute.)
He'll VO something about being torn about the most important decision of his life (as if) while he walks to the jeweler and sits down. (1 minute.)  

They'll chat for 43 seconds and he'll say "this one is perfect." Huge smile. (Total of 1 minute).
Then he'll be walking with a VO about knowing what his heart wants. (30 seconds.)
Cut to him knocking on Trish's door.  (3 minutes total with her. )
That's 7 minutes, 30 seconds total and all the rest of the time will be VOs talking about how happy he is , and April VO being nervous, and how they are both feeling so loved, getting ready, etc. etc. etc.  No timing problem whatsoever.

tigertiz wrote:

Editing can certainly get it in. They can do lots of VO's during a lot of things and literally show very little.  

Yes I think they'll start with a VO of Tim explaining how scared he was that April would really leave. Then he'll say that he reminded her to take a leap of faith with him (or some such).
(1 minute.)
We'll see a hug and a kiss.  (1 minute.)
He'll VO something about being torn about the most important decision of his life (as if) while he walks to the jeweler and sits down. (1 minute.)  

They'll chat for 43 seconds and he'll say "this one is perfect." Huge smile. (Total of 1 minute).
Then he'll be walking with a VO about knowing what his heart wants. (30 seconds.)
Cut to him knocking on Trish's door.  (3 minutes total with her. )
That's 7 minutes, 30 seconds total and all the rest of the time will be VOs talking about how happy he is , and April VO being nervous, and how they are both feeling so loved, getting ready, etc. etc. etc.  No timing problem whatsoever.

chop. chop. 

  ... chat for 43 seconds... hehe. I am going to count that one. ;)

AllAboutLove wrote:

richmondrose wrote:If I had to guess, 4health, while they were filming in Moorea and Michael Hill was there, they were doing some promo shots with Trish wearing his jewelry. Possibly that's why she's in that dress which some believe is a FRC gown by Terani.

IA. Unless Tim was made by production to take Trish to FRC or have her get dressed in FRC before letting her go, I believe as stated before that the dress is not FRC dress and we probably won't even see the dress at all if there is no FRC for Trish if Tim lets her go before all that. From what happened with April, Tim is going to have to make good on his promise to April and leap into action real quick. Time for talking was over, imo when it came to April upset and to stop her from leaving Tim would either have to leave with her or act on his promise and get her to stay.

Even without the blog-gate, Tim was on his knees (literally) promising April they'll get through this and not knowing then she was the one for him? Not even probable, imo. He knew. No need to make any promise to someone that wants to leave if you don't know. And if he didn't know before then, he certainly realized it for himself. He couldn't let her go.

Below is what Tim said in an interview post-FRC in September 18 article that I posted in the thread awhile back but ties into what happened with April and Trish.

Imo:
- The first two sentences are about April (doesn't want it to end = "don't go yet", "I promise you we will get through this together")
- The sentence about past relationships is about Trish - very happy, very comfortable, very loving.

How do you know when you’ve found the one?

Tim Warmels: That’s a very gut feeling thing. I think one day you just wake up and you think to yourself  “This is a good thing that I don’t want to have end at any point.” My relationships before this are what really taught me that I really am ready for something for the rest of my life. They were happy relationships and for that period of time in my life, they were very comfortable and very loving and very happy relationships, so it was hard to leave them. But it was because I knew that down the road there was something missing from it that wouldn’t leave me satisfied.

.. and in the same article Tim talks about how marriage is not about being happy but getting through the tough times. We saw this with Trish (happy) we saw this with April (the tough times).

As a kid, you think everything’s happy-go-lucky and then you see that it takes real devotion to keep a relationship going and keep it loving.

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From this same article, i find this very telling and i want to add it (it is the answer to

What are you looking for in a woman?

.

The person just needs to be happy with who they are and where they are and the path that they are on in life. And if they’re happy with that, you’re not necessarily going to be a perfect person, no one’s perfect, I’m not perfect, but if you’re happy with the path you’re on in life, that’s what counts.

April does say that at some point in last epi, that she is happy and that they are on the right path.

Also i've always wanted to say that i don't think that Trish is the happy one and April is not. April is a very well accomplished young woman, she is strong, is caring loving and have everything she wants in her life. Yeah she is reserved but in my opinion that doesn't make her less happy with herself than Trisha is.
Their personas on tv maybe one dimensional but nobody is one dimensional in real life. And she also know how to have fun. We have seen it over and over during the season (sharks diving, playing pool, swings, ocean frolicking spontaneously, i have even watch a video on the official site were she was teaching the girls how to make sangria and it was very funny).

richmondrose wrote:You've made some good points AAL. I like to see two sides of the coin, so to speak and when I see Tim running through the bushes and the rest of the kerfuffle, I take it at face value the first time I see it, But once it's sunk in, I also imagine the producers whispering in Tim's ear that he should get there pronto and stop her from leaving at any cost to keep the story going until the finale.

We Trisha fans have already lived through the shock of April being F1/or leaving and Trisha being F2, when that blog was posted. so we aren't sleuthing April and Tim's love story (at least I as a Trisha fan) There are others that give a reason to keep sleuthing and asking the questions and seeing what will happen.
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4health wrote:

richmondrose wrote:You've made some good points AAL. I like to see two sides of the coin, so to speak and when I see Tim running through the bushes and the rest of the kerfuffle, I take it at face value the first time I see it, But once it's sunk in, I also imagine the producers whispering in Tim's ear that he should get there pronto and stop her from leaving at any cost to keep the story going until the finale.

We Trisha fans have already lived through the shock of April being F1/or leaving and Trisha being F2, when that blog was posted. so we aren't sleuthing April and Tim's love story (at least I as a Trisha fan) There are others that give a reason to keep sleuthing and asking the questions and seeing what will happen.
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