Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Discussion #2

Aunties_Love wrote:

4health wrote:

Sprite wrote:

There is a reason they left those faces and some of those comments in...even if they were taken out of context when editing. It is not like she is anything like a Courtney or a Whitney. They didn't need to have those in there and yet, there they are. As I have been saying all along, these subtle things are what makes me doubt she is F1 even if I didn't have a bunch of other clues weighing in April's favour for F1.

Death by a thousand cuts....

 IMO the reactions shots is one thing in Trisha's corner....I know people hate to compare seasons but if you watch Brad's season Bianka was the girl with all the reactions shots also.   Editing is like being a writer....if you are a reader you know that you can sure tell a author's style in writing....this is no different.  An editor has a style and with the BACHCAN ediitng you have to see the similarities and Bianka & Trisha were reactions because they were so called hidden because they had to establish a strong F2 relationship so that there was a F2 show down.  JMO

I agree, it is all in the edit.  IMO, there are so many things that match up to Trish being F1, just like Bianka.  IMO, it will be an interesting night on Tuesday.

Just be prepared if Trish isn't the F1...haha you seemed pretty invested in  your theories.
As for me, whoever he picks im ok with that just that instincts give me clues on why it's April.
Been in same situation before, dating someone whom i can be myself with (same feeling i get being with my friends) VS. being someone im inlove with (someone who makes me a better person/opposite/not easy to workout but gives you the most fulfilling feeling in the world). This is not the easy thing to achieve, takes time but you know it's forever kind of thing. If you've meet your the one, you can fully understand that feeling

4health wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Does FRC on May 19 fit into Tim's 55 days of filming? I'm guessing  that people  choosing  the May 19 FRC are doing  so because  of the may 21 April  Insta posting that no one else can find. This May 21st post was it deleted or sent privately  to the poster that mentioned  it? TIA.

As that person that posted a possible timeline that is the farthest from the truth.  I wasn't trying to fit an agenda or prove someone right or someone wrong.  I am trying to gather information and think through the process and see how it all falls.  Plain and Simple.   I would have to say that either FRC date for me would work because I am TeamTim but rooting for Trisha and feel that she is his "buttercup" so it wouldn't matter what that SM post is, I was trying to help everyone out.  

Thanks so much for you doing that 4health. I do appreciate your efforts. IMO the timeline could very well go as you have put forward. I do understand that it does go against a May 21 thought, but I think you have shown great thoughts when it comes to the tweets we have, the other info that we have and thinking outside the box. Again, thanks for your efforts!!

Mr&MrsSmith wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

Mr&MrsSmith wrote:

Yes AAL, it is foreshadowing I believe the storyline. Trisha's own insecurities about herself compared to other girls. Tim has repeatedly stated in interviews he wanted a girl who was comfortable with herself, comfortable in her own skin. Trisha's insecurities were outlined to us several times in the first episode.

IA. More than just that, what struck me as odd about Trisha's post is that she said she 'hoped she had been able to express her feelings to Tim" as in enough for him to keep her/give her a rose. That made no sense to me, imo, for her to post that considering that we saw Trish express her feelings and after that Tim tell her that he 'fell a long time ago' for her? Why state in one's blog that one hoped that was enough when we saw on her HTD that it was obviously enough based on Tim's response? Trish looking shocked at Tim saying he fell for her plays into this, imo as does her next sentence of focusing on the other girls' relationships/HTDs with Tim. She still had doubts about Tim's feelings for her even though he had said he fell a long time ago and that doubt was connected to the other girls (which, imo, could be April based on Trish's response when April got the date. The only other threat to Trish was Lisa. I doubt Trish thought there was truly anything with Sachelle and Tim).

ETA: Imo, one could add the post by Trish on her IG of the girls that chose her as F1. Not very nice, imo a thing to do as F1.. a bit rubbing it in the face, so to speak. I still go back to the fact that since WTA filmed and Trish partied with the girls, she has not posted anything Tim-related on her IG. Prior to that she posted pics of him all the time for each of their dates. Changing that pattern once WTA was filmed only says F2 more than F1. And her favoriting Lisa's post that Lisa said she never got dumped by Tim but she dodged a bullet? Not an F1 thing to do, imo, favorite something negative about your possible fiance unless you are not F1 or have broken up. Again, jmo and will find out soon

Yes, IA, Trisha stopped posting pics of she and Tim, and also her family stopped their twitter campaign to get Trisha virtual rose votes. It all happened around the same time.

Any theories on what happened to cause the change?

everyone relate more with one or the other and we think we know them but IMHO we are tricked all along by the production who are the real masters of what they want us to see. It is easy to deform the true meaning and amplify a situation.
When feelings are on the line, it is difficult to judge a person. For me I like to concentrate on positive energy and even if I think Trish is F1, I do not think less of April to rub the public face that she knows bianca so much as to call her a twin vs someone who thanked her buddies for voting for her. I think it is more fun to concentrate on clues until the last minute. And no matter who is F1, I do not envy the F2 right now. She must be hurt as I saw 2 genuine girls on my TV.

grace8136 wrote:

Mr&MrsSmith wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
IA. More than just that, what struck me as odd about Trisha's post is that she said she 'hoped she had been able to express her feelings to Tim" as in enough for him to keep her/give her a rose. That made no sense to me, imo, for her to post that considering that we saw Trish express her feelings and after that Tim tell her that he 'fell a long time ago' for her? Why state in one's blog that one hoped that was enough when we saw on her HTD that it was obviously enough based on Tim's response? Trish looking shocked at Tim saying he fell for her plays into this, imo as does her next sentence of focusing on the other girls' relationships/HTDs with Tim. She still had doubts about Tim's feelings for her even though he had said he fell a long time ago and that doubt was connected to the other girls (which, imo, could be April based on Trish's response when April got the date. The only other threat to Trish was Lisa. I doubt Trish thought there was truly anything with Sachelle and Tim).

ETA: Imo, one could add the post by Trish on her IG of the girls that chose her as F1. Not very nice, imo a thing to do as F1.. a bit rubbing it in the face, so to speak. I still go back to the fact that since WTA filmed and Trish partied with the girls, she has not posted anything Tim-related on her IG. Prior to that she posted pics of him all the time for each of their dates. Changing that pattern once WTA was filmed only says F2 more than F1. And her favoriting Lisa's post that Lisa said she never got dumped by Tim but she dodged a bullet? Not an F1 thing to do, imo, favorite something negative about your possible fiance unless you are not F1 or have broken up. Again, jmo and will find out soon

Yes, IA, Trisha stopped posting pics of she and Tim, and also her family stopped their twitter campaign to get Trisha virtual rose votes. It all happened around the same time.

Any theories on what happened to cause the change?

Well, just for speculation's sake.

If Trish=F2, then she felt the cat was out the bag once she was with the other bettes after WTA. Even if they didn't/don't know for sure, keeping that a secret for nearly 6 looong months must have felt like a relief for her to be with others that went through something she did. So, going out partying with the other girls and then posting she definitely found friendship and no more Tim-related posts can play into this. The girls would feel bad for her to be sure, having seen Tim say on camera he fell for her a long time ago. Most of the girls that said Trish=F1 did so based on that comment and her HTD so it would make sense if they felt bad for her and partying it up together is the best way to get over something that happened... 6 months ago.

If Trish=F1, other than just misleading (which is one theory that supports why the change from a positive perspective) then likely that it is all over by now. One reason for a breakup is that 6 months is a long time post-show to be in a relationship without being able to be 'public' about it. So, they could have broken up and thus the change and no longer posting Tim-related posts on her IG once the WTA happened. It is possible then that most of the girls chose Trish as F1 then and rallying around her because they are broken up (none of the girls seem to be saying anything about Tim since post-WTA filming and those that are it is not positive—Lisa's post about dodging a bullet and even Sachelle's post on her IG that she prefers the roses she got at a nightclub). So, imo, Trish as F1 is broken up or she is still with Tim and is just misleading. But I highly doubt favoriting a post by Lisa about 'dodged a bullet' in regards to Tim is the way to mislead anyone. Better to do nothing and mislead than to favorite a negative comment aimed at a possible fiance, imo.

ETA: If timeline of May 19=FRC is correct then it is crazy to think that the F2 person, by the time the finale airs November 18, it will be 6 months since May 19. Half a year. Wow!! That is a really, really long time to have to be in hiding from the person one is in a relationship with. And to live in different provinces/states as Trish does? Half a year without being in public with that person? I don't see that lasting, imo, if one is so far away. Now living in the same city and near each other is certainly more believable, imo for a relationship to maintain after 6 months of hiding. I just cannot get over how it will be nearly 1/2 a year before Tim will possibly be in public with his F1. Nuts to have it so far apart.

HEA wrote:everyone relate more with one or the other and we think we know them but IMHO we are tricked all along by the production who are the real masters of what they want us to see. It is easy to deform the true meaning and amplify a situation.
When feelings are on the line, it is difficult to judge a person. For me I like to concentrate on positive energy and even if I think Trish is F1, I do not think less of April to rub the public face that she knows bianca so much as to call her a twin vs someone who thanked her buddies for voting for her. I think it is more fun to concentrate on clues until the last minute. And no matter who is F1, I do not envy the F2 right now. She must be hurt as I saw 2 genuine girls on my TV.

Very nicely done HEA. ITA

i think people forget a very simple reason: production asked probably both F1 and F2 to be silent on SM. The success of the show is to keep the audience on their toes so would you be surprised if they asked to stay silent right after WTA? SM is a powerful tool and i do not think the production is stupid to believe it is harmless. If I was the prod, I would make sure to write an addendum to their contract to keep silent after WTA up to the Finale.

AllAboutLove wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

Mr&MrsSmith wrote:

Yes, IA, Trisha stopped posting pics of she and Tim, and also her family stopped their twitter campaign to get Trisha virtual rose votes. It all happened around the same time.

Any theories on what happened to cause the change?

Well, just for speculation's sake.

If Trish=F2, then she felt the cat was out the bag once she was with the other bettes after WTA. Even if they didn't/don't know for sure, keeping that a secret for nearly 6 looong months must have felt like a relief for her to be with others that went through something she did. So, going out partying with the other girls and then posting she definitely found friendship and no more Tim-related posts can play into this. The girls would feel bad for her to be sure, having seen Tim say on camera he fell for her a long time ago. Most of the girls that said Trish=F1 did so based on that comment and her HTD so it would make sense if they felt bad for her and partying it up together is the best way to get over something that happened... 5 months ago.

*snipped*

Thanks, sounds very plausible to me.

grace8136 wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

Any theories on what happened to cause the change?

Well, just for speculation's sake.

If Trish=F2, then she felt the cat was out the bag once she was with the other bettes after WTA. Even if they didn't/don't know for sure, keeping that a secret for nearly 6 looong months must have felt like a relief for her to be with others that went through something she did. So, going out partying with the other girls and then posting she definitely found friendship and no more Tim-related posts can play into this. The girls would feel bad for her to be sure, having seen Tim say on camera he fell for her a long time ago. Most of the girls that said Trish=F1 did so based on that comment and her HTD so it would make sense if they felt bad for her and partying it up together is the best way to get over something that happened... 5 months ago.

*snipped*

Thanks, sounds very plausible to me.

IA, although HEA makes a valid point there was probably some direction given re SM until the Finale airs. Doesn't mean the rebels are complying, or maybe like me, Trisha doesn't totally "get" instagram yet.

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dougcannon85
5 hours ago
This was just the sweetest video to watch. I love my bettes! I think every girl in the house would say the most rewarding part of this experience would be friendships that will last a lifetime. ❤️

A subtle dig at Tim here also. I remember hearing him say the experience was the hardest and most rewarding thing he ever did because he is happy at the outcome which i assume is that he found his soulmate. Trisha basically telling the world her friendhips r the most rewarding. Sour grapes in full bloom. There is the Trisha we saw on the show, always throwing digs and shade under the guise of funny and happy go lucky. I am Not a fan of nice mean girls and that is what Trisha did on that show.

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dougcannon85
5 hours ago
This was just the sweetest video to watch. I love my bettes! I think every girl in the house would say the most rewarding part of this experience would be friendships that will last a lifetime. ❤️

A subtle dig at Tim here also. I remember hearing him say the experience was the hardest and most rewarding thing he ever did because he is happy at the outcome which i assume is that he found his soulmate. Trisha basically telling the world her friendhips r the most rewarding. Sour grapes in full bloom. There is the Trisha we saw on the show, always throwing digs and shade under the guise of funny and happy go lucky. I am Not a fan of nice mean girls and that is what Trisha did on that show.

yeah i didn't know how to feel when i saw it as well. not very friendly. april liked the photo so i am abit confused there?

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see2love wrote:

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dougcannon85
5 hours ago
This was just the sweetest video to watch. I love my bettes! I think every girl in the house would say the most rewarding part of this experience would be friendships that will last a lifetime. ❤️

A subtle dig at Tim here also. I remember hearing him say the experience was the hardest and most rewarding thing he ever did because he is happy at the outcome which i assume is that he found his soulmate. Trisha basically telling the world her friendhips r the most rewarding. Sour grapes in full bloom. There is the Trisha we saw on the show, always throwing digs and shade under the guise of funny and happy go lucky. I am Not a fan of nice mean girls and that is what Trisha did on that show.

yeah i didn't know how to feel when i saw it as well. not very friendly. april liked the photo so i am abit confused there?

Maybe she liked it because she got the guy and wanted to show support?