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Post by Guest Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:39 pm

Zigz wrote:Tuesday cannot come soon enough!  This sleuthing is helping my anxiety. Lol

I'm not gonna lie but I am a little biased to April, ya she's a not as loud and fun as Trish but she has remained genuine and true throughout the whole process and despite what may be interpreted as up and down emotions, she actually manages them quite maturely IMO.  I just see a great love story between them from the very beginning that just has that intangible x-factor that cannot be explained.  

But as for the evidence...a cpl things I've picked up that hasn't been mentioned yet ( but I only skimmed this thread so maybe it has been discussed).

1. Post interviews Tim has mentioned that he didn't know how emotionally taxing the process would be but also that it has been the most rewarding.  When I heard that it triggered the first Ep when April is introducing herself and says " I'm more work than the other but I'm worth it.". Reading too much or nah?  With Trish it's always been easy and comfortable.

2. The previews for the FD and MTP I think were heavily edited to make it seem that April leaves after her breakdown but I don't believe it at all.  If we go back to ep.1 where it gives a preview of the whole season, we actually see a SC from that same scene in April's room with her sitting crying on the bed and Tim consoling her.  This SC wasn't shown in the preview for Tuesday which I thought interesting. The fact that Tim is there to console and reassure her speaks volumes.  Would he bother if she wasn't the F1?  Reminded me of Cabo, when she kinda had a meltdown and she cannot even explain it herself in her ITM she says something to the effect "I don't even know why I'm getting emotional right now" - its cuz love will eff u up like that girl! Also, her running away I truly believe she wanted to get away and process her thoughts and feelings and she says as much when in the VO. Also interesting BC in the previee she says pretty much the same thing to Tim " I can't even process my f*ckin thoughts!"Im so interested in what the trigger was though.

3. Body language, body language BODY LANGUAGE!  B/W Trisha and Tim there is def. Sexual chemistry.  But with April there's a chemistry and an intimacy that doesn't come close. Even looking at the HTD, Tim and April are holding hands or touching to some effect the whole dinner.  In the preview for the MTP Tim is stroking the side of her arm the whole time.  On their date in TO right before he offers her the rose, the way their arms were entwined and he was just stroking her arm.  And the way they are just staring at each other with goofy smiles on the yacht in the FD preview if that is not LOVE I don't know what is...like Sonia said of their chemistry during the photoshoot date "the camera doesn't lie"

4.  Even though the edit of the preview hints at April maybe leaving did y'all not find that she had way more SC and make outs (in different outfits) than Trisha...leads me to believe maybe Tim does send home Trish early....and as much as production wants to manipulate the narrative at the end of the days these are real people, and Tim has clearly been doing whatever he wants this season.

Ahhh so glad to get that all out. Lol
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:49 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
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Ok, is it safe to say that IF Trish was staying in that bungalow it is the better accommodation than where April is staying?
It is the worst bungalow to be in taking into consideration views or beach access. It is the best bungalow to be in when thinking about privacy. However, one could see it as better accommodation than April merely because it is closer in proximity to the ocean despite the fact that there is a cement wall and other bungalows blocking the view of this. (I personally think that neither where April stayed nor where Trish is seen are really nice options considering the better views but understandable to keep them apart and those spots were best to do so if they were around each other MTP time). 

However, I will say if Trish got the better accommodation, then April certainly got the better date being on the luxury yacht (than on a horse, picnic, belvedere lookout - very cost-friendly date(s)). Understandable considering that Trish had a very romantic date in Italy and received jewellery. Diamonds! haha 

For fun, when comparing the cost of the Michael Hill jewels to that of chartering the Askari yacht for the day


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Trish: Necklace = $1600, Earrings= $2700, Total = $4300


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April: Askari Yacht for one day = $10700

Just cost differences. Doe NOT mean evidence one way or the other.
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Post by tim&aprillove Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:53 pm

Tuesday cant get here soon enough for me :shocked!: can't imagine how T&A must be feeling....  This season kida reminds me of Sean Bach season 2 great fnal 2 girls Trish=Lindsay funny,goofy came out of the limo in a wedding dress April=Catherine kinda quite,laid back but the story and connectiin was there from day 1/ like Tim I go with my gut and looks my gut tells me April an those looks he gives tell me April  awwww thank u for letting   me vent  peace


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Post by Mr&MrsSmith Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:55 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:snipped...
Ok, is it safe to say that IF Trish was staying in that bungalow it is the better accommodation than where April is staying?
It is the worst bungalow to be in taking into consideration views or beach access. It is the best bungalow to be in when thinking about privacy. However, one could see it as better accommodation than April merely because it is closer in proximity to the ocean despite the fact that there is a cement wall and other bungalows blocking the view of this. (I personally think that neither where April stayed nor where Trish is seen are really nice options considering the better views but understandable to keep them apart and those spots were best to do so if they were around each other MTP time). 

However, I will say if Trish got the better accommodation, then April certainly got the better date being on the luxury yacht (than on a horse, picnic, belvedere lookout - very cost-friendly date(s)). Understandable considering that Trish had a very romantic date in Italy and received jewellery. Diamonds! haha 

For fun, when comparing the cost of the Michael Hill jewels to that of chartering the Askari yacht for the day


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Trish: Necklace = $1600, Earrings= $2700, Total = $4300


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April: Askari Yacht for one day = $10700

Just cost differences. Doe NOT mean evidence one way or the other.

If we compare Laura B's Taccori jewels to Bianka's paddle around an iceberg FD - Hmmmm???
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:59 pm

Zigz wrote:Tuesday cannot come soon enough!  This sleuthing is helping my anxiety. Lol

I'm not gonna lie but I am a little biased to April, ya she's a not as loud and fun as Trish but she has remained genuine and true throughout the whole process and despite what may be interpreted as up and down emotions, she actually manages them quite maturely IMO.  I just see a great love story between them from the very beginning that just has that intangible x-factor that cannot be explained.  

But as for the evidence...a cpl things I've picked up that hasn't been mentioned yet ( but I only skimmed this thread so maybe it has been discussed).

1. Post interviews Tim has mentioned that he didn't know how emotionally taxing the process would be but also that it has been the most rewarding.  When I heard that it triggered the first Ep when April is introducing herself and says " I'm more work than the other but I'm worth it.". Reading too much or nah?  With Trish it's always been easy and comfortable.

2. The previews for the FD and MTP I think were heavily edited to make it seem that April leaves after her breakdown but I don't believe it at all.  If we go back to ep.1 where it gives a preview of the whole season, we actually see a SC from that same scene in April's room with her sitting crying on the bed and Tim consoling her.  This SC wasn't shown in the preview for Tuesday which I thought interesting. The fact that Tim is there to console and reassure her speaks volumes.  Would he bother if she wasn't the F1?  Reminded me of Cabo, when she kinda had a meltdown and she cannot even explain it herself in her ITM she says something to the effect "I don't even know why I'm getting emotional right now" - its cuz love will eff u up like that girl! Also, her running away I truly believe she wanted to get away and process her thoughts and feelings and she says as much when in the VO. Also interesting BC in the previee she says pretty much the same thing to Tim " I can't even process my f*ckin thoughts!"Im so interested in what the trigger was though.

3. Body language, body language BODY LANGUAGE!  B/W Trisha and Tim there is def. Sexual chemistry.  But with April there's a chemistry and an intimacy that doesn't come close. Even looking at the HTD, Tim and April are holding hands or touching to some effect the whole dinner.  In the preview for the MTP Tim is stroking the side of her arm the whole time.  On their date in TO right before he offers her the rose, the way their arms were entwined and he was just stroking her arm.  And the way they are just staring at each other with goofy smiles on the yacht in the FD preview if that is not LOVE I don't know what is...like Sonia said of their chemistry during the photoshoot date "the camera doesn't lie"

4.  Even though the edit of the preview hints at April maybe leaving did y'all not find that she had way more SC and make outs (in different outfits) than Trisha...leads me to believe maybe Tim does send home Trish early....and as much as production wants to manipulate the narrative at the end of the days these are real people, and Tim has clearly been doing whatever he wants this season.

Ahhh so glad to get that all out. Lol
Welcomeparty! I agree Welcome1
 LOVED your post. You touched on so many things we touched on here and have almost forgotten about since we are so in the weeds so to speak, haha!. Lovely to be reminded of it all. So many of us here have stated just what you have and it is nice to see some new ways of looking at it expressed. Keep posting please!! Smiley
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:04 pm

Mr&MrsSmith Like I stated at the bottom of my post... Does NOT indicate one way or the other (at least for me).

The jewels vs. paddle doesn't really fit though because still jewels(something to keep) vs. an experience(something to remember).

Cost aside, most people choose a shared experience when they say what has more value when looking back at their lives. And certainly, this can be applied to Trish even more so than April (just a picnic, etc but shared experience). Focusing on just cost? Not sure about the budget this time around but like I said, I don't see it as an indication one way or the other. Others who compare to past seasons may. I just see it for what it is...   just what was done and that is is. Will look back on it once the F1 is revealed as whether it meant anything at all.

ETA: I will say though that Tim prefers the water to the land. Most of his SM posts even from years back are about sunsets over ocean or by a lake, or by water. He even took April to his special life-changing spot by the water in TO and where he said he would go to think about his life. He has countless photos on SM (facebook, IG) of water, near water. Seems to be this thing. He also said his idea of a best date is by water, sailing.


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Post by iamreal2u Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:04 pm

BTW someone did a comparison with the jewelry shown and what Trish was actually wearing and it was different. Need to find where the comparison was made.
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Post by Ash2214 Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:09 pm

iamreal2u wrote:BTW someone did a comparison with the jewelry shown and what Trish was actually wearing and it was different.  Need to find where the comparison was made.

I saw that too. It's on IG under the hashtag bachcan. The jewelry Trisha has on are all silver. The ones that were shown to us quickly have gold in them too, but Trisha's clearly don't.

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:14 pm

Ash2214 wrote:
iamreal2u wrote:BTW someone did a comparison with the jewelry shown and what Trish was actually wearing and it was different.  Need to find where the comparison was made.

I saw that too. It's on IG under the hashtag bachcan. The jewelry Trisha has on are all silver. The ones that were shown to us quickly have gold in them too, but Trisha's clearly don't.

Weird. So Michael Hill falsely advertised to Trish and viewers what she received? Here is their tweet to match the SC I posted that Tim gave Trish.
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Why state on their official twitter account that those earrings and necklace are what Tim gives Trish yet that is not the case? 

So they are actually totally different from what was shown during the episode with Trish on her romantic date... so, so weird to show one thing and the girl gets another thing?  Here's the IG post .. definitely not the same. Don't even have the second tier of diamonds. Maybe she didn't like gold?
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With this caption: ALRIGHT BACHELOR FANS. Please tell me someone else noticed this too!? **this was last weeks episode** The picture on the left is the #michaelhill jewelry set that Tim (apparently?) gives Trish on their date BUT the picture on the right.. is the set he puts on her - moments later? What the -?
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ETA: So these look like they may be the same. They are more expensive than what was shown ($8500 total). 
1) Necklace $3000 http://www.michaelhill.com/1-carat-tw-diamond-teardrop-pendant-11612391.html?cgid=jewellery-pendantsNecklaces-diamond
2) Earrings $5500 http://www.michaelhill.com/2-carat-tw-diamond-34mm-teardrop-earrings-11612407.html

Who knows, maybe the advertised the gold/white gold set to attract those who like both metals but Trish got the white gold and more expensive set?


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Post by Guest Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:37 pm

Hello everyone
I am a long time silent fan here and I am in awe with your shares
It amaze me how we see things differently.
At this stage, I truly believe Tim cares for them both and for me it is normal that he went to console April knowing that his parents were probably responsible. I also believe that production at this stage are feeding both women with pretty words and pressure them to express their feelings in front of the camera. It is also the end of the journey and I am sure everyone is exhausted, so very likely to crack under pressure. April seems to be a girl that need time to give her trust and I am sure that the production is pushing her to her limits. It is obvious to me that she is fragile and need extra care. So far, I always saw her as the prettiest of the women and I saw the physical attraction between them. I did not see much else because they edited so much that I only heard her insecurities up to her hometown where she felt safe.
Trish is another story. I see the complicity. I see two people physically attracted and both totally at ease to share innuendo which show to me a very high level of complicity. She is easy to be around, no drama and very affectionate. We can see her emotions on her face. You get what you see with her.
So no wonder tim said that he is falling in love with 2 complete different women. Because he is. They are his ideal woman in a way.
I am also a fan of the US and AU franchise and I well remember Brad-Chantal-Emily and everyone convinced Chantal was the one because the production edited so heavily that they deceived completely the audience in the wrong direction.
All I am trying to say is that edits will show you the love story the production want you to see. I always try to take a step back when the production is pushing a women too soon in the show. But at the end of the day, it is Tim's decision and no matter if we feel connected more with one or the other, it will be his choice, not ours to make.
sorry to interrupt and thank you again everyone. it is fun to read you all.

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:41 pm

HEA Welcome1

Love your thoughts! Don't stop posting. It is great to have others participate. I am relatively new here as well (just less than 2 months on here) so post away Smiley
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