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Post by stuckinsc Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:24 pm

mamahamme wrote:Wow! I think I am still a big fan of Josh but I keep seeing these pictures of woman posting from this advocate event things like having lunch with my man or this is why Andi and josh broke up because he is with me. YUK I know it comes with the publicity but having so many woman throwing themselves at Josh all the time would have bothered me. I mean come on ladies we say we could handle it but really. Watching woman try to rub up next to ur man and everything else. I guess I must be a jealous wife myself. Although I don't think my husband would have put me through that (when he was alive). I don't know I  think we could probably tell Andi was a little spoiled but don't you think josh could to. She told josh on their fantasy suite date she could be difficult and he said he could handle it and she no I really can be difficult. I really believe she was trying to warn him so he would know what he was getting himself into.  With her being an ADA she has to have a strong personality.(fighting bad guys you have to be tough)now do I think she could have softer yes I do. The Hollywood life saying josh wanted to be the next bachelor well they are also the one who said Andi and josh wanted babies before they got married.(per the Nov. 11 interview)Andi even asked where that came from and when he said Hollywood life her and josh said well there you go. In other words don't believe everything you read. You know they both had faults, but iI wish they would not have traveled so much the last couple months and just lived a normal couples life. One minute I'm a josh fan then I'm an Andi fan but pointing out all the things Andi has lost like its a good thing I guess in my nature. Oh yes the lady who did the sjmagazine article described Andi as feisty and josh gregarious(social) but she said they were great together to watch and josh even favorites that comment on his way to hang out with chad in Athens one Friday nite. Yes I think they still love each other that kind of love doesn't come often as I can say BC I had that kind of love with my husband before he passed away which I'm sure a lot of us can say. Oh one more thing josh has been in the public eye with his baseball, his brother and all and Andi never had. He even made a nice comment about that with Andi because he was used to it and she wasn't. Oh well who am I to judge. I certainly have made many a mistake in my life for sure. Sorry so long and I hope I make anyone upset with me.

All opinions are always welcome and it is good to see it from both sides. I think for me, I just didn't like Andi and her actions with JPG, then didn't like the way she reacted to not just Eric, but especially interview with CH after his last episode and he had passed away, she had time to think and process and it was still all about her IMO, she showed respect to both Cody and Chris to let them go because IMO she couldn't fake the physical with either of them anymore. I hate the way she broke up with Nick and her coldness at the AFTR. Sorry, I don't care what he did, you are the lead, so yes it is your job to break up and give those you dumped closer.

Josh did know Andi was difficult and a brat and he loved and accepted it. As much as I want to scream I was right, the only thing I do think I was right about is that Andi wasn't ready to settle down and be an ATL housewife (unless maybe she was going to be RHOA) then maybe. Josh wanted marriage and babies and in interviews for a while Andi at least said she wanted the marriage too. That seemed to change in the last couple of months. Now was it change or that she was denying what she really wanted all along? I don't know, I will speculate that she was denying and so used to being spoiled and getting her own way with daddy, Hy, that she thought she could string it out.

Either way, if these two don't want the same thing they are better off broken up. I don't doubt though that they did love each other, that I do believe was real.
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Post by aviej Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:24 pm

Just one correction. In the FS date Andi said "I can be difficult" which Josh interpreted as "you'd be difficult" and she clarified and stated again "I can be difficult."
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Post by mamahamme Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:25 pm

I guess I must be feeling really bad about the missed post up above. Forgetting to put in one word (didn')changes the whole sentence. Please forgive me!

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Post by luvlady345 Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:32 pm

Yeah HL is the bottom feeder of entertainment gossip, don't believe anything they print...  Next week it will probably be Josh cheating is what caused the split, and the same week it will be Andi back with ex BF, HL is not reliable...


 

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Post by stuckinsc Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:37 pm

luvlady345 wrote:Yeah HL is the bottom feeder of entertainment gossip, don't believe anything they print...  Next week it will probably be Josh cheating is what caused the split, and the same week it will be Andi back with ex BF, HL is not reliable...

On par with CDL. Even me who is not an Andi fan doesn't think either cheated. I really do think they just realized they didn't want the same things in life right now. That is perfectly okay.

I remember being sad after my first marriage, and someone telling me that it was okay, each relationship is learning so that when the right one comes we can appreciate them even more. Andi and Josh did have lots of love and joy in their relationship and hopefully both learned not only what didn't work for them but also a little more what did too.

So far, I actually think both have handled this with class. No mean tweets or IGs, like Nikki's little IG post about JPG even though she does defend him everywhere else. I am sure both are sad, but both seem to still care about and respect the other enough to not get ugly with it. It shows a lot of maturity on both of their parts IMO.
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Post by StacyNor Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:25 pm

stuckinsc wrote:
All opinions are always welcome and it is good to see it from both sides.  I think for me, I just didn't like Andi and her actions with JPG, then didn't like the way she reacted to not just Eric, but especially interview with CH after his last episode and he had passed away, she had time to think and process and it was still all about her IMO, she showed respect to both Cody and Chris to let them go because IMO she couldn't fake the physical with either of them anymore.  I hate the way she broke up with Nick and her coldness at the AFTR.  Sorry, I don't care what he did, you are the lead, so yes it is your job to break up and give those you dumped closer.  

Josh did know Andi was difficult and a brat and he loved and accepted it.  As much as I want to scream I was right, the only thing I do think I was right about is that Andi wasn't ready to settle down and be an ATL housewife (unless maybe she was going to be RHOA) then maybe.  Josh wanted marriage and babies and in interviews for a while Andi at least said she wanted the marriage too.  That seemed to change in the last couple of months.  Now was it change or that she was denying what she really wanted all along?  I don't know, I will speculate that she was denying and so used to being spoiled and getting her own way with daddy, Hy, that she thought she could string it out.

Either way, if these two don't want the same thing they are better off broken up.  I don't doubt though that they did love each other, that I do believe was real.

That made me chuckle giggling
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Post by Kashathediva Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:33 pm

bleuberry wrote:I'm still curious who would tell RS that Andi and Josh were 'on thin ice' and would break up within the next few weeks. There may have been rumors and whispers, but I don't think anyone had that kind of info (the imminent break up), if he's to be believed. Or did someone else come forward with that before him?

This is my speculation only.
RS is generally not supportive of any cast person, unless he has received spoiler info that helps him out for the season.
In JODI's season, specifically what I mean is I think during filming and/or shortly afterward he received info from someone very close in the JODI camp that enabled him to be correct on many JODI spoilers from day 1.
The scenario would have been a kind of "you wash my back and I'll wash yours".
For RS it was thank you for giving me info on JODI. For the source it would have offered positives from RS--who is generally brutal to the cast. RS was fairly supportive of this couple from the get go.
So now, months pass. Ironically, other media sources and members from this forum have come out and said there was smoke for quite awhile. RS says nothing. He reads these sources and I know he finds out info from this site. Yet he says nothing.
He says nothing until the source that contacted to begin with contacts him again and gives him the info that the break up is imminent.
The source for each is the same. The source is someone very close to the to inside info on the couple. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. JMOAA.



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Post by KB_Mom Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:37 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
bleuberry wrote:I'm still curious who would tell RS that Andi and Josh were 'on thin ice' and would break up within the next few weeks. There may have been rumors and whispers, but I don't think anyone had that kind of info (the imminent break up), if he's to be believed. Or did someone else come forward with that before him?

This is my speculation only.
RS is generally not supportive of any cast person, unless he has received spoiler info that helps him out for the season.
In JODI's season,  specifically what I mean is I think during filming and/or shortly afterward he received info from someone very close in the JODI camp that enabled him to be correct on many JODI spoilers from day 1.
The scenario would have been a kind of "you wash my back and I'll wash yours".
For RS it was thank you for giving me info on JODI. For the source it would have offered positives from RS--who is generally brutal to the cast. RS was fairly supportive of this couple from the get go.
So now, months pass. Ironically, other media sources and members from this forum have come out and said there was smoke for quite awhile. RS says nothing. He reads these sources and I know he finds out info from this site. Yet he says nothing.
He says nothing until the source that contacted to begin with contacts him again and gives him the info that the break up is imminent.
The source for each is the same. The source is someone very close to the to inside info on the couple. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. JMOAA.

Makes sense to me.
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Post by Kashathediva Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:40 pm

And anyone who reads between the lines can figure out who. Just speculative on my part.



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Post by mamahamme Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:53 pm

I must be stupid. I am wondering if this is someone a little older? Help me out maybe?

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Post by KB_Mom Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:57 pm

mamahamme wrote:I must be stupid. I am wondering if this is someone a little older? Help me out maybe?

I was a little hesitant to post my inability to read between the lines, but if mama can, I can too. A little help for me too?
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Post by sbolduc Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:06 pm

KB_Mom wrote:
mamahamme wrote:I must be stupid. I am wondering if this is someone a little older? Help me out maybe?

I was a little hesitant to post my inability to read between the lines, but if mama can, I can too. A little help for me too?

My wild guess would be MM
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