Bachelor Canada Season 2 - Screen Caps - Pics - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers* - Discussion #2

northernviewer wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:And this is why it is said: SCs don't lie!

yep.... we can figure it all out with SC's, ITM's, VO's, SM, PI's, .... what we don't need is RS...

ITA great SC's and sleuthing the yacht.  I know I won't be the most popular person here today but that is okay.  You are correct to say that screencaps don't lie, but our interpretation of the SC can get off track.  When you have a story you want to see happen you can make it fit not matter what.   I can say most of us have done it.  Prime example....we have the preview of the season and discussion and conclusion in some cases was there was only one girl in Moorea and how romantic that is for April and Tim.  Well, we found out last night that is not the case there are in fact two girls there.   I usually stay away from this thread because rose colored glasses are pretty prominent here JMO.   So as I look at the screencaps with no agenda what so ever once again screencap being made to fit a storyline that just might not fit.  In the tv guide description is states MTP and overnight date (not plural, typo possibliy or overnight date for each girl)   So as much as the Team April wants here to not leave and trying to have the screencaps prove it with all the clothes just doen't fit.  We all know that these dates are long and go into the night...there is a day activity and a night dinner discussion.  So I think these screencaps say to me this:

April/Tim - meet (hug sc on dock) ride a dingy to yacht, jump off yacht, swim in ocean and the sc (in preview tim kisses april at sunset) april & tim on beach he kisses her is at sunset (time of sunset in Moorea) they are in the same swimsuit Tim is seen in the hug and jumping off the boat and April is in a whiteish dress which I feel is the same dress as her saying hello on the dock, at sunset or in SC you can't see the print on it but it's white and tim is in same tshirt swim trunks....as sunset still gives them time to go back to yacht change and have the toast and then the goodnight kiss in the stateroom.  ONE DATE  No other screencap of different clothes with the exception  of the dress at MTP and all the drama.

Trish/Tim - meet Tim hug, Tim in white shirt and beige shorts, Trisha in strapless dress, makes total sense that Tim says I have a surprise for you and goes and gets the horses and she realizes she should change or she has other clothes not knowing exactly what they will be doing hence the different print top talking jungle picnic pic and Tim in white shirt.  Then you have the screencap of Trisha (I lov ehim) in black/yellow sundress and the looks like a possible dinner dress.  DONE ONE DATE and then MTP

There is not two dates FD & LCD....description doesn't support it and either does the previews or screencaps JMO.   I know it would be exciting to think that Tim and April works out her concerns but you know my opinion on that one....I still think she leaves......no misleading here

Has anyone actually sleuthed out this SC or is it thought to be horseback riding because Tim seems to be wearing the same clothes?

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I'm confused 4health.

We have SC's that show she had her FD. She had a day portion, jumping off the boat, playing in the water. There's the night portion, her and Tim inside of the boat and she has a pink dress on. We have SC's of her at the MTP and the breakdown happens right after the MTP. We then have SC's of her and Tim on the beach together in Moorea and her hair is different and so is her dress in comparison to her FD attire.

That has nothing to do with rose colored glasses or being "team April" as you said. That is just straight up fact from what we've seen. We see her during her day and evening portion of the FD. We see her at her MTP and her breakdown right afterwards. We see her on another date with Tim in Moorea, which means she had two dates there, meaning she had a LCD.

Her breakdown would have happened before her LCD, which means she stayed.

4health wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:And this is why it is said: SCs don't lie!

yep.... we can figure it all out with SC's, ITM's, VO's, SM, PI's, .... what we don't need is RS...

ITA great SC's and sleuthing the yacht.  I know I won't be the most popular person here today but that is okay.  You are correct to say that screencaps don't lie, but our interpretation of the SC can get off track.  When you have a story you want to see happen you can make it fit not matter what.   I can say most of us have done it.  Prime example....we have the preview of the season and discussion and conclusion in some cases was there was only one girl in Moorea and how romantic that is for April and Tim.  Well, we found out last night that is not the case there are in fact two girls there.   I usually stay away from this thread because rose colored glasses are pretty prominent here JMO.   So as I look at the screencaps with no agenda what so ever once again screencap being made to fit a storyline that just might not fit.  In the tv guide description is states MTP and overnight date (not plural, typo possibliy or overnight date for each girl)   So as much as the Team April wants here to not leave and trying to have the screencaps prove it with all the clothes just doen't fit.  We all know that these dates are long and go into the night...there is a day activity and a night dinner discussion.  So I think these screencaps say to me this:

April/Tim - meet (hug sc on dock) ride a dingy to yacht, jump off yacht, swim in ocean and the sc (in preview tim kisses april at sunset) april & tim on beach he kisses her is at sunset (time of sunset in Moorea) they are in the same swimsuit Tim is seen in the hug and jumping off the boat and April is in a whiteish dress which I feel is the same dress as her saying hello on the dock, at sunset or in SC you can't see the print on it but it's white and tim is in same tshirt swim trunks....as sunset still gives them time to go back to yacht change and have the toast and then the goodnight kiss in the stateroom.  ONE DATE  No other screencap of different clothes with the exception  of the dress at MTP and all the drama.

Trish/Tim - meet Tim hug, Tim in white shirt and beige shorts, Trisha in strapless dress, makes total sense that Tim says I have a surprise for you and goes and gets the horses and she realizes she should change or she has other clothes not knowing exactly what they will be doing hence the different print top talking jungle picnic pic and Tim in white shirt.  Then you have the screencap of Trisha (I lov ehim) in black/yellow sundress and the looks like a possible dinner dress.  DONE ONE DATE and then MTP

There is not two dates FD & LCD....description doesn't support it and either does the previews or screencaps JMO.   I know it would be exciting to think that Tim and April works out her concerns but you know my opinion on that one....I still think she leaves......no misleading here

As to the bolded, it's extremely insulting of you to say that many of us are looking through rose coloured glasses, implying that you a few others are the only ones seeing things clearly.

Ash2214 wrote:I'm confused 4health.

We have SC's that show she had her FD. She had a day portion, jumping off the boat, playing in the water. There's the night portion, her and Tim inside of the boat and she has a pink dress on. We have SC's of her at the MTP and the breakdown happens right after the MTP. We then have SC's of her and Tim on the beach together in Moorea and her hair is different and so is her dress in comparison to her FD attire.

That has nothing to do with rose colored glasses or being "team April" as you said. That is just straight up fact from what we've seen. We see her during her day and evening portion of the FD. We see her at her MTP and her breakdown right afterwards. We see her on another date with Tim in Moorea, which means she had two dates there, meaning she had a LCD.

Her breakdown would have happened before her LCD, which means she stayed.

Ash ...read my post again..........the highlighted in my opinion is the same day Tim is wearing the same swimsuit as the jumping pic and I think April's sun dress on the beach is all in the same day, her hair is curly and fuzzy because of the swimming IMO I think the little white dress she is seen hugging Tim on dock is the same as the dress on the beach and then they go back to yacht and change hence the peachy dress toast and the stateroom kiss. All in one day. I know people don't want to compare prior seasons but during Brad's LCD Whtiney was shown in several different outfits....swimsuit/coverup/dinner/dress etc. JMO and I post what I think just like you As per example....everyone said that it was straight fact that April was the only one there in Moorea will guess what it was wrong. Speculation is speculation so I am speculating and going off what tv guide description is stating and there is only one date for each girl, there isn't a FD for two and then after MTP a LCD just for one.....the description doesn't support IMO the screencaps don't either. My opinion and you don't have to agree....

jojo47 wrote:So then this is definitely LCD? Making it post-upset for April?

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Interesting that he seems to be wearing what was worn in the MTP for Trisha.

northernviewer wrote:

4health wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

yep.... we can figure it all out with SC's, ITM's, VO's, SM, PI's, .... what we don't need is RS...

ITA great SC's and sleuthing the yacht.  I know I won't be the most popular person here today but that is okay.  You are correct to say that screencaps don't lie, but our interpretation of the SC can get off track.  When you have a story you want to see happen you can make it fit not matter what.   I can say most of us have done it.  Prime example....we have the preview of the season and discussion and conclusion in some cases was there was only one girl in Moorea and how romantic that is for April and Tim.  Well, we found out last night that is not the case there are in fact two girls there.   I usually stay away from this thread because rose colored glasses are pretty prominent here JMO.   So as I look at the screencaps with no agenda what so ever once again screencap being made to fit a storyline that just might not fit.  In the tv guide description is states MTP and overnight date (not plural, typo possibliy or overnight date for each girl)   So as much as the Team April wants here to not leave and trying to have the screencaps prove it with all the clothes just doen't fit.  We all know that these dates are long and go into the night...there is a day activity and a night dinner discussion.  So I think these screencaps say to me this:

April/Tim - meet (hug sc on dock) ride a dingy to yacht, jump off yacht, swim in ocean and the sc (in preview tim kisses april at sunset) april & tim on beach he kisses her is at sunset (time of sunset in Moorea) they are in the same swimsuit Tim is seen in the hug and jumping off the boat and April is in a whiteish dress which I feel is the same dress as her saying hello on the dock, at sunset or in SC you can't see the print on it but it's white and tim is in same tshirt swim trunks....as sunset still gives them time to go back to yacht change and have the toast and then the goodnight kiss in the stateroom.  ONE DATE  No other screencap of different clothes with the exception  of the dress at MTP and all the drama.

Trish/Tim - meet Tim hug, Tim in white shirt and beige shorts, Trisha in strapless dress, makes total sense that Tim says I have a surprise for you and goes and gets the horses and she realizes she should change or she has other clothes not knowing exactly what they will be doing hence the different print top talking jungle picnic pic and Tim in white shirt.  Then you have the screencap of Trisha (I lov ehim) in black/yellow sundress and the looks like a possible dinner dress.  DONE ONE DATE and then MTP

There is not two dates FD & LCD....description doesn't support it and either does the previews or screencaps JMO.   I know it would be exciting to think that Tim and April works out her concerns but you know my opinion on that one....I still think she leaves......no misleading here

As to the bolded, it's extremely insulting of you to say that many of us are looking through rose coloured glasses, implying that you a few others are the only ones seeing things clearly.  

Why is rose colored glasses an insult, sorry you think that, I kind of like them.    You can assume what you want...I never said I see things clearly you did. The discussion along with the screencaps and comments was trying to prove that April doesn't leave and that she had a second date that is how I read it and my opinion is different.

Do you guys have the caps in April's cap thread?

atem wrote:

jojo47 wrote:So then this is definitely LCD? Making it post-upset for April?

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Interesting that he seems to be wearing what was worn in the MTP for Trisha.

There is a shot this same Pic lightened and Tim is wearing the swimsuit trunks jumping off the boat and was tagged all together with SC's of Moorea with April

northernviewer wrote:Just left the sc's I wanted to talk about ... in the middle one of Tim where he says "we're so close and we've come so far".... in the scene where they're trying to cast doubt... that shirt his has on is the one he had on with Trish and not April.  On April's MTP date, he had on a white shirt that had front pockets with seams going up to the shoulder part, and with April on FD it was a textured shirt that shows up more in the outside photos than it does on inside ones. But I think the one here is him talking about Trish after or during their FD.  It's not what he says about coming so far, but it's that look on his face that doesn't bode well, and why I think they used it for April as they want us to think that she's going home

AllAboutLove wrote:Continuing from SC posts [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] .. last SC was VO of Tim's Mom - "I don't know if she is ready for a full life commitment"

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28) VO of Tim merges with Tim PI with these SCs - "We're so close and we've come so far!"
- April crying again SC from her PI

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That 'pink' dress seems to be the one on the beach with them kissing.

Wait, the straps seem different. Hmmm....

4health wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:I'm confused 4health.

We have SC's that show she had her FD. She had a day portion, jumping off the boat, playing in the water. There's the night portion, her and Tim inside of the boat and she has a pink dress on. We have SC's of her at the MTP and the breakdown happens right after the MTP. We then have SC's of her and Tim on the beach together in Moorea and her hair is different and so is her dress in comparison to her FD attire.

That has nothing to do with rose colored glasses or being "team April" as you said. That is just straight up fact from what we've seen. We see her during her day and evening portion of the FD. We see her at her MTP and her breakdown right afterwards. We see her on another date with Tim in Moorea, which means she had two dates there, meaning she had a LCD.

Her breakdown would have happened before her LCD, which means she stayed.

Ash ...read my post again..........the highlighted in my opinion is the same day Tim is wearing the same swimsuit as the jumping pic and I think April's sun dress on the beach is all in the same day, her hair is curly and fuzzy because of the swimming IMO I think the little white dress she is seen hugging Tim on dock is the same as the dress on the beach and then they go back to yacht and change hence the peachy dress toast and the stateroom kiss.  All in one day.   I know people don't want to compare prior seasons but during Brad's LCD Whtiney was shown in several different outfits....swimsuit/coverup/dinner/dress etc.   JMO and I post what I think just like you   As per example....everyone said that it was straight fact that April was the only one there in Moorea will guess what it was wrong.  Speculation is speculation so I am speculating and going off what tv guide description is stating and there is only one date for each girl, there isn't a FD for two and then after MTP a LCD just for one.....the description doesn't support IMO the screencaps don't either.  My opinion and you don't have to agree....

The white dress April has on the beach sitting with Tim looks to be completely white and plain. You can clearly see on the dress where she's hugging Tim on the dock there is a purple print all over it. Therefore, they're not the same dress.

When Tim meets with April on that dock, he has on a tshirt and bathing suit bottoms. When you see them inside of the yacht for the evening portion of their FD, April is in a pink dress, her hair is different from the beach picture with Tim, and Tim has on a fancy, white long sleeve shirt.

Both Tim and April have on completely different outfits as they're sitting on the beach together. That tells me April had two dates in Moorea plus the MTP.

^^^^ I agree, sort of. BUT, I don't think the kiss on the beach is a 2nd date. It could be him meeting her afterward. Doesn't it look like the outfit he wore with the MTP with Trish?