The Bachelor Australia - Season 2 - Blake Garvey - ATFR - *Spoilers* - Media & Social Media Discussion #2

They don't very happy

Thanks AEF for posting the magazine clip.

I gathered the pics were shot in South Africa based on the background....Sam was definitely happy and in love, seems Blake regretted the decision once the proposal was over based on the body language analysis Emusha did on the previous thread.

Still on the proposal and him not denying that he is not dating someone else. So up until 3 weeks ago, he was happy and in love. So the "nobody new" must have entered the picture about that time, oh Blakey....not nice what you did to Sam!!!

emusha wrote:

Says Blake in the interview: "It didn't feel like what I expected or hoped for. I had fears and doubts like anyone and unfortunately they were realised."

From Sam's perspective though, she says: 'I was completed blindsided." OUCH.

Adds Blake: "I love her by maybe it wasn't the long lasting romantic love I was looking for."

Woman's Day then asked if Sam was angry, to which she replied: "I am disappointed, which is worse."

Blake says he ended the relationship with Sam because of “a combination of factors. Being back in reality, in a long-distance relationship, having unfiltered contact and really getting to know each other more. It highlighted that Sam is someone I absolutely love and care for but not in the way of a romantic partner.”

Asked if he still had feelings for the other girls he left behind on 'The Bachelor', Blake answered:

“We shared such an emotional journey it’d be impossible not to feel something.”

http://josiesjuice.blogspot.com/2014/10/womans-day-blake-and-sam-speak-bachelor.html

Re: the bold

This says everything. Blake was and is only looking for romantic love. That is NOT love. That is just the feeling of falling, falling, falling. Everyone goes though that prior to marriage. Marriage is NOT about romantic love, it is about commitment love. Loving someone, truly loving them, is how you treat them when those feelings have gone, as they inevitable will fade in any marriage. 

Falling in love = feeling. Loving someone = putting someone else above yourself, compromising, despite your feelings. 

He didn't and doesn't want to commit (daddy issues) and never will. He will tell all and any girl he dates that he is falling, say he wants to marry them, but it won't happen. He just falls in and out of love very easily and wants to keep that feeling going which it can never be as romantic love is merely the first stage of love. 

And that is the thing, he just wants to stay in the first stage of love. Very selfish.

AllAboutLove, your analysis was spot on that Blake not being in proximity with Sam was part of the issue:

The question from the magazine to Blake: how did you feel during the 6 weeks you were engaged; Blake's answer: I felt lonely, I really tried....

Wow so if they had been allowed to see each other maybe Blake would have been ok. His answer that he felt lonely just shows how immature he is for a 31 year old, love requires work, it ain't easy Blakey boy!!!

mercieme wrote:

yvi123 wrote:https://au.tv.yahoo.com/news-and-gossip/article/-/25191359/bachelor-blake-tells-why-he-dumped-sam/
"She added that Bunda has given her the $58,000 engagement ring to keep and will remodel it for her"

At least Sam gets to keep the ring!

These lines from the reporat are major:

But while he was adamant he'd met "nobody new", he didn't clarify whether or not he had renewed a romance with someone he already knows.

Exactly what we thought, honestly if it turns out to be Louise, it will be unreal, just don't see her as the sort to do that.

Meanwhile, a heartbroken Sam said told the magazine she could sense her new fiance was not "100 per cent in" their relationship after the show finished, but she still didn't see what was coming.

Impressive that Sam knew he wasn't 100% into it but yet she was willing to give it a shot and she is the one they are calling immature...that's exactly what love is, working on things...I guess Blake did not get the memo on that part of love. I am still my head why Blake got engaged to Sam after feeding her that line of he's never been more sure of anything. Did the guy even see a therapist post show?

It would not surprise me as I said before if it was his ex or even Jess. Jess never wanted a commitment, just the feeling of love. Plus, if the rumours are true that she was a escort+ in Sydney, where Blake stated he was thinking of moving to in an interview, then the signs could lead to her. Private IG and few followers. Jess could play Sam and Sam wouldn't even know. If it is them, or Louise, or his other ex, there will eventually be evidence for it. 

Funny how most of us here knew Sam was more mature about what marriage entailed than anyone else. Also sad that she said to him... "and sometimes, when you look at me, I can see you love me too"... I think she saw he stopped looking at her the same.. and chalked it up to stress of everything. Trying to make it work is commitment love, not just romantic love.

I said before the whole FRC that Blake needs to SEE into someone's eyes that they love him, need him. He based his whole proposal on seeing how she looks at him "And it is that look, that makes me feel so loved." 

Not seeing her after three weeks (and that interview we talked about with the anon caller) is when things changed for him as I surmised. He needed the bubble. He needed the adventure. He still wants it. Marriage is not an adventure to him, it is a prison. 

Sam wanted marriage, she was ready to have what her sister had. And here is the key: Every other girl was not ready for marriage with him. 

He chose Sam because deep down, that is what he wanted, the part of him Sam brought out, the honest and genuine part that his gran told him to find, but  after not seeing her, not having things go the way he wanted post-FRC, he wimped out because of his daddy issues/commitment issues. Like I said, what he had with Sam would be too real, too long lasting. He would have to give for a long time. That is what marriage is. He took the easy way out ...

well not much to go by but reading between the lines:
blake says he felt lonely and felt like he put a lot into it and that he really tried -- she says she could tell he wasn't 100% in it.

to me it sounds like blake was needy and felt like she wasn't there for him compared to how much he was (like she was distant) while she felt like he was withdrawing from the get go.
maybe she took that to mean he wasn't as into it/she took it personally rather than showering him with more attention. I don't see sam as someone who coddles people... while blake seems to suggest that he was chasing her to give him love even after the proposal. he might have needed someone to shower him with attention. based on what his ex shared blake likes to have his way and as an only child expects it...sounds like his expectations weren't met as he'd imagined.

I wouldn't be shocked if it's louise he goes to after this cos she's the caring, nurturing, mothering type...

emusha wrote:well not much to go by but reading between the lines:
blake says he felt lonely and felt like he put a lot into it and that he really tried -- she says she could tell he wasn't 100% in it.

to me it sounds like blake was needy and felt like she wasn't there for him compared to how much he was (like she was distant) while she felt like he was withdrawing from the get go.
maybe she took that to mean he wasn't as into it/she took it personally rather than showering him with more attention. I don't see sam as someone who coddles people... while blake seems to suggest that he was chasing her to give him love even after the proposal. he might have needed someone to shower him with attention. based on what his ex shared blake likes to have his way and as an only child expects it...sounds like his expectations weren't met as he'd imagined.

I wouldn't be shocked if it's louise he goes to after this cos she's the caring, nurturing, mothering type...

If Louise cares one ounce about her reputation, she better rebuff Blake, this aint going to end well for either of them, the media will eat them up for it!!!!

mercieme wrote:AllAboutLove, your analysis was spot on that Blake not being in proximity with Sam was part of the issue:

The question from the magazine to Blake: how did you feel during the 6 weeks you were engaged; Blake's answer: I felt lonely, I really tried....

Wow so if they had been allowed to see each other maybe Blake would have been ok. His answer that he felt lonely just shows how immature he is for a 31 year old, love requires work, it ain't easy Blakey boy!!!

Just had a thought. Blake was so used to the production team planning his dates, planning everything that after the FRC, and all he did was go on the media circuit, instead of fighting to see Sam, he had gotten so used to the crew organising everything for him he played the passive participant because he had been one the whole time for nearly 4 months. That is a long time for your relationship to have more initiative from others than yourself. 

Blake expected someone other than him to make the effort to reunite him with Sam. "They just yanked her away", etc, etc. Going back to being an only child, and that with Sam he had to PURSUE her while on the show because of the other girls, once the other girls were gone, once the crew were not planning dates for them, Blake resorted back to his full on only child syndrome of being the recipient of action and not the initiator of action.

He should have fought harder to see her. He just got to used to the process and let others decide. Eventually, his feelings of not being supported, since he didn't see Sam got to him. And because he always had and always will have doubts (due to his daddy issues) he fed his doubts more than his faith.

mercieme wrote:

emusha wrote:well not much to go by but reading between the lines:
blake says he felt lonely and felt like he put a lot into it and that he really tried -- she says she could tell he wasn't 100% in it.

to me it sounds like blake was needy and felt like she wasn't there for him compared to how much he was (like she was distant) while she felt like he was withdrawing from the get go.
maybe she took that to mean he wasn't as into it/she took it personally rather than showering him with more attention. I don't see sam as someone who coddles people... while blake seems to suggest that he was chasing her to give him love even after the proposal. he might have needed someone to shower him with attention. based on what his ex shared blake likes to have his way and as an only child expects it...sounds like his expectations weren't met as he'd imagined.

I wouldn't be shocked if it's louise he goes to after this cos she's the caring, nurturing, mothering type...

If Louise cares one ounce about her reputation, she better rebuff Blake, this aint going to end well for either of them, the media will eat them up for it!!!!

Louise would be perfect for him. 

She would be the dutiful, pleasing, 100% awww-Blakey-boy supportive wife. Dinner ready. Sweets for the road, etc. Blake would have with Louise what he has with his mum/gran. 

The only problem is that he would cheat on her because she doesn't fulfill his adventurous side, only his needy side. But, as a Stepford, she may be fine with that. She reminds me of the women from eras gone by. The whole 50s "I live in a man's world" and will mother him and turn a blind eye to his philandering ways. 

He fulfills her fantasy of having someone to mother and she his of being mothered. I think they would suit each other more than anyone else. His ex or Jess. 

They will both get something out of the symbiotic parasitic relationship.

AllAboutLove wrote:

mercieme wrote:

yvi123 wrote:https://au.tv.yahoo.com/news-and-gossip/article/-/25191359/bachelor-blake-tells-why-he-dumped-sam/
"She added that Bunda has given her the $58,000 engagement ring to keep and will remodel it for her"

At least Sam gets to keep the ring!

These lines from the reporat are major:

But while he was adamant he'd met "nobody new", he didn't clarify whether or not he had renewed a romance with someone he already knows.

Exactly what we thought, honestly if it turns out to be Louise, it will be unreal, just don't see her as the sort to do that.

Meanwhile, a heartbroken Sam said told the magazine she could sense her new fiance was not "100 per cent in" their relationship after the show finished, but she still didn't see what was coming.

Impressive that Sam knew he wasn't 100% into it but yet she was willing to give it a shot and she is the one they are calling immature...that's exactly what love is, working on things...I guess Blake did not get the memo on that part of love. I am still my head why Blake got engaged to Sam after feeding her that line of he's never been more sure of anything. Did the guy even see a therapist post show?

It would not surprise me as I said before if it was his ex or even Jess. Jess never wanted a commitment, just the feeling of love. Plus, if the rumours are true that she was a escort+ in Sydney, where Blake stated he was thinking of moving to in an interview, then the signs could lead to her. Private IG and few followers. Jess could play Sam and Sam wouldn't even know. If it is them, or Louise, or his other ex, there will eventually be evidence for it. 

It is not me if that's what you meant by that.

to me it looks like their love languages got crossed and the distance didn't help.

sam being one of 6 likely sees love and gives love very differently from what blake a single child with 3 women taking care of him expects in a "family" -- i think blake went into it with an idealized relationship of a best friend/intimate partner type of relationship mainly cos he was raised by strong women...but in essence he found out that to feel loved he needs more of a "wife" that fawns over him relationship.

he repeatedly said during the show he felt "loved" by lisa, louise and sam. the proposal itself was all about him - that she can read him, support him, challenge him and love him...

we all learn what we need in relationships as we mature but yikes! blake!! to not even be willing to work things out and communicate to resolve things?!?!?! that's just immature, selfish and unstable (particularly when emotions rule the path and commitment of life means nothing)

It's almost like he threw a tantrum - I'm not getting what I want and I'm so angry, I'm throwing in the towel and I can't even wait three weeks to get into real life and be with you and sort it through