Re: Juan Pablo & Nikki Ferrell - Fan Forum - Discussion - Couples Therapy Premier Sept 10 2014

by stuckinsc Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:51 pm

SerenityGirl wrote:I know relationships are hard and have been through my share of heartache but honestly you couldn't pay me to expose my relationship on national TV like Nikki is doing. To have a guy sit there and hesitate and BS when asked if he loves you is so painful. It gets even worse in this episode based on another preview I saw. It'a sad. Glad they have worked through it and are in a better place now. But must he hard to see this play out again. I'd be grumpy too!

I like Nikki in general, but I think if you chose to go on tv you need to take a little more responsibility for you own actions. She did make the choice to go on this show. I think they are okay, but must say her attitude towards fans was very off putting to me.

by chinita Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:01 pm

I'm kind of confused with these two. Nikki said it's not the three words, then what it is then? Is she not feeling feeling his caring towards her all this time since they've been together? On the other hand, JPG said, he wants "to mean it" when he says "iLU". It's obvious he's not loving her yet or maybe he wants to say it when he's 100%?

IMO, I think it's not a big issue for Nikki the fact that JPG doesn't say "ILU" but maybe they had to bring this up to make a show

by stuckinsc Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:07 pm

chinita wrote:I'm kind of confused with these two. Nikki said it's not the three words, then what it is then? Is she not feeling feeling his caring towards her all this time since they've been together? On the other hand, JPG said, he wants "to mean it" when he says "iLU". It's obvious he's not loving her yet or maybe he wants to say it when he's 100%?

IMO, I think it's not a big issue for Nikki the fact that JPG doesn't say "ILU" but maybe they had to bring this up to make a show

I hope it is great acting, but with Nikki claiming how much she hates the cameras and all, then I think it might be true. But we will never know. It makes me sad. I had thought she was more confident and that made her a good match for JPG. If she truly is not getting what she needs from him, then I don't want them together. I like them both, but you shouldn't have to force ILY. I don't blame him or her, just they may not be compatible or in the same place emotionally. I just hope that Andi and the whole bachelor bubble is making Nikki care more than she actually did before.

by chinita Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:48 pm

I think Nikki didn't expect to feel this way after the Bach. Obviously, she's been struggling and that's one of the reason she went on CT to solve this issue she has (or had) What surprised me is her strong character. I always thought JPG is the one who possesses the strong character. I'm also surprised how patient he's towards her. Yes, I know, Nikki has been very patient with him too. His "lay back" attitude can get on your nerve but I was expecting Nikki has the kind of patient with him more than he's with her. I remember JPG's cousin Rodolfo said, JPG would walk out of a relationship if things are not working. He must "like her a lot" to not have walked out giggling

by Carolina2020 Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:23 am

When I see this clip I think what is wrong with him? We love at different levels all the time. Love in it's purest form is about commitment. We love even when we "don't feel it" because we make that choice other wise we would "love" one day and not the next and then "love" again the next. It is excruciating to watch Nikki asking for that affirmation, information, reasonable question to be answered. Do you love me? If not, then get out of Dodge and stop wasting my time because I want to love and be loved like everyone else on this earth. Then I remember..this is tv. Editing is making the choices and putting into sequence events in ways that will dramatize the show and make it entertaining for the audience. When we are watching we may not be getting the true reality. Here JP looks like the bad guy and yet we see other things that indicate that he is not and neither is she but it is a puzzle that he can say so many good things but appears not to be willing to say I love you at this time.

by Carolina2020 Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:36 am

One of Nikki's fans post supportivley to her IG and Nikki responds regarding the fans take on things. I agree :
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rstickler83 It's so much drama. @nikki_ferrell hates people because of this. None of us know her. People sit back and keep judging what is an edited version of television to portray drama. My take: she wanted some fun went on bachelor didn't expect to be a Whiny girl sent home. Didn't expect the "process" to work. She actually falls for juan and now "wins" and America hates him but loves her but now that's switched. I'd have a nervous breakdown! {MEDIA} 4d

nikki_ferrell @rstickler83 You are exactly right! If only everyone was as smart as you. Thanks girl! 4d

Read more at http://websta.me/n/nikki_ferrell#uFUoFPpe8Kz9gDtl.99

by gurlbrit Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:19 am

Carolina2020 wrote:When I see this clip I think what is wrong with him? We love at different levels all the time. Love in it's purest form is about commitment. We love even when we "don't feel it" because we make that choice other wise we would "love" one day and not the next and then "love" again the next. It is excruciating to watch Nikki asking for that affirmation, information, reasonable question to be answered. Do you love me? If not, then get out of Dodge and stop wasting my time because I want to love and be loved like everyone else on this earth. Then I remember..this is tv. Editing is making the choices and putting into sequence events in ways that will dramatize the show and make it entertaining for the audience. When we are watching we may not be getting the true reality. Here JP looks like the bad guy and yet we see other things that indicate that he is not and neither is she but it is a puzzle that he can say so many good things but appears not to be willing to say I love you at this time.

Bingo to the bolded; the pause may not be a pause at all; remember they can loop footage to make it look as though it was a pause. Although I will say that after all this time if JPG doesn't feel he is in love, then maybe this isn't the best relationship for either of them. I'm enjoying this show more than I thought I would.

by stuckinsc Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:35 am

gurlbrit wrote:
Carolina2020 wrote:When I see this clip I think what is wrong with him? We love at different levels all the time. Love in it's purest form is about commitment. We love even when we "don't feel it" because we make that choice other wise we would "love" one day and not the next and then "love" again the next. It is excruciating to watch Nikki asking for that affirmation, information, reasonable question to be answered. Do you love me? If not, then get out of Dodge and stop wasting my time because I want to love and be loved like everyone else on this earth. Then I remember..this is tv. Editing is making the choices and putting into sequence events in ways that will dramatize the show and make it entertaining for the audience. When we are watching we may not be getting the true reality. Here JP looks like the bad guy and yet we see other things that indicate that he is not and neither is she but it is a puzzle that he can say so many good things but appears not to be willing to say I love you at this time.

Bingo to the bolded; the pause may not be a pause at all; remember they can loop footage to make it look as though it was a pause. Although I will say that after all this time if JPG doesn't feel he is in love, then maybe this isn't the best relationship for either of them. I'm enjoying this show more than I thought I would.

Keep in mind, this was filmed in June. They had only been public for a couple of months. Not everyone rushes into love, for some they take time to grow. I just can't fault a person for wanting to take time to fall in love and not throw it around and make it cheap.

by blueblues Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:56 pm

I think they both came to the show more or less unaware of their issues. They had only been seeing each other for a couple of days now and then, so they may have pushed the serious conversations forward. Then, during the days when Nikki was bothered by the cameras, her frustration started to build, and once she decided to forget about them, it all came out at once.
Or it could be editing.

The others talked about how Nikki got a bad edit. I have watched parts of the previous season on YouTube, and I don’t think there are and real villains on this show. The purpose of the edit seems to be to make everyone’s problem look really bad in the beginning, to exaggerate the effect of the therapy. In the last episode they will probably all ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after (hopefully that will be the case in real life as well).

Nikki’s feelings about pushy fans were surprising. There have been quite a few fan pictures on Instagram during the summer, with no hints of disapproval. If Nikki had been annoyed, I think the fans would have felt it.
Maybe that is another thing that has improved after CT, not so much from therapy than from talking to the others, especially Evel Dick.

by Carolina2020 Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:16 pm

stuckinsc wrote:
gurlbrit wrote:
Carolina2020 wrote:When I see this clip I think what is wrong with him? We love at different levels all the time. Love in it's purest form is about commitment. We love even when we "don't feel it" because we make that choice other wise we would "love" one day and not the next and then "love" again the next. It is excruciating to watch Nikki asking for that affirmation, information, reasonable question to be answered. Do you love me? If not, then get out of Dodge and stop wasting my time because I want to love and be loved like everyone else on this earth. Then I remember..this is tv. Editing is making the choices and putting into sequence events in ways that will dramatize the show and make it entertaining for the audience. When we are watching we may not be getting the true reality. Here JP looks like the bad guy and yet we see other things that indicate that he is not and neither is she but it is a puzzle that he can say so many good things but appears not to be willing to say I love you at this time.

Bingo to the bolded; the pause may not be a pause at all; remember they can loop footage to make it look as though it was a pause. Although I will say that after all this time if JPG doesn't feel he is in love, then maybe this isn't the best relationship for either of them. I'm enjoying this show more than I thought I would.

Keep in mind, this was filmed in June. They had only been public for a couple of months. Not everyone rushes into love, for some they take time to grow. I just can't fault a person for wanting to take time to fall in love and not throw it around and make it cheap.

I agree. I think people should take time when they need it and you are right this was in June so we'll see what happens in the end.
I do, also, know from life experience that there are people who know exactly what they want and others who will never commit. I have a brother who got married after three weeks and was happily married for 50 years before his wife passed away. (they eloped) My parents courted on my grandparents front porch for 3 yrs. before they let Mom marry. They were married 55 years before Dad passed away. I have another brother who dates, dates, dates for long periods of time but will never commit. So we shall see. I want Nikki and Juan to be happy. When it's all done, I hope they write a book and tell all. Otherwise, we may never know what has really gone on.

by soccerm3m Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:46 pm

There are some good sneak peeks on VH1 website. It will be a tear jerker tonight.

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