Re: Andi Dorfman and Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - Media - Twitter - General Discussion Thread #2

[Justafan2]

See Justafan, I too use to live in the Athens area and who has friends  who live in the Atlanta., and they see them also around so it's puzzling to me where all these rumors are coming from. It's crazy to me but I am not going to lay awake at night wondering about it.

I think it's crazy too and I don't follow any other couple closely but I know speculation comes with every couple, no matter how happy they are. So people think they had one off interview? I don't see that as meaning they are doomed. There could be so many possibities going on behind the scenes they just rather not share. As we have all seen, they have become more private about their relationship on SM. However, again from sightings, we know they spend the majority of their time together. Like Ash said I don't know if they will stay together or not, but as of right now I think they are okay.

[luvlady345]

This is my escape I ship couples LOL. If they don't make it's ok. I am never 100% about anything or anyone.... Until the fat lady sings I ain't going nowhere.

[Lucas15]

Yep, I'm a huge believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," even if it's a couple that I love, but I just have trouble seeing it here other than Monday's "we're not thinking about a wedding," and what Steve posted yesterday....

They're out spotted together by their fans almost daily and usually the spotter posts they're so cute, happy, whatever, including integrating their friend groups and becoming friends with each others friends. It's just weird that she said that Monday and then immediately Steve posted it's dunzo city. Of course nothing but time will tell, it's just interesting to speculate on.

I had trouble seeing evidence of "trouble" on Monday (though YMMV - some think they say it - I just didn't) and circumstantially it would be illogical. The franchise trundled out all their "shining stars" to interviews on the red carpet (Ashley & JP have a new baby so they weren't there) but Sean & Catherine were and got a lot of camera time and so did Andi & Josh (Nikki was there because I think they were hoping she would trash Juan Pablo, but she really didn't) and to a lesser degree Marcus & Lacy. If there was trouble the show would know about it long before RS would and IMHO wouldn't have put them on the red carpet nor given them so much camera time.

And I take what RS posted with a big grain of sea salt. Over the years RS has been given a lot of information and like him or hate him, it's mostly very good. When he does have information he will often make comments clarified by "from what I'm hearing". When he doesn't have information then he may still make comments but they will usually be couched in "I think" terms. "I think" means he has no information - just an opinion reach on his own from certain other information. And it seems like the "big reveal" on Monday was when asked about wedding plans Andi said said "they haven’t done any" and from that RS thinks there's trouble. IMHO that answer probably means just the opposite.

If ABC is going to televise a wedding, THEY will control when it takes place and when and who will announce it - just as they have always done. The couple will not be allowed to give out any substantive information until ABC decides they want it out. ABC will not release information prematurely because they know it will excite fans for a little bit but too early and the excitement dies down before the event and doesn't bring in viewers so they wait - typically until a month or two before air date. Right now is definitely not the right time because they want viewers to watch Chris's season and they don't want to cannibalize that for a one night event. The fact that "they" said they haven't done any planning does not necessarily mean that no planning has or is being done - only that someone else might be doing it and the statement Andi made could still be technically true.

[aviej]

Yep, I'm a huge believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," even if it's a couple that I love, but I just have trouble seeing it here other than Monday's "we're not thinking about a wedding," and what Steve posted yesterday....

They're out spotted together by their fans almost daily and usually the spotter posts they're so cute, happy, whatever, including integrating their friend groups and becoming friends with each others friends. It's just weird that she said that Monday and then immediately Steve posted it's dunzo city. Of course nothing but time will tell, it's just interesting to speculate on.

I had trouble seeing evidence of "trouble" on Monday (though YMMV - some think they say it - I just didn't) and circumstantially it would be illogical. The franchise trundled out all their "shining stars" to interviews on the red carpet (Ashley & JP have a new baby so they weren't there) but Sean & Catherine were and got a lot of camera time and so did Andi & Josh (Nikki was there because I think they were hoping she would trash Juan Pablo, but she really didn't) and to a lesser degree Marcus & Lacy. If there was trouble the show would know about it long before RS would and IMHO wouldn't have put them on the red carpet nor given them so much camera time.

And I take what RS posted with a big grain of sea salt. Over the years RS has been given a lot of information and like him or hate him, it's mostly very good. When he does have information he will often make comments clarified by "from what I'm hearing". When he doesn't have information then he may still make comments but they will usually be couched in "I think" terms. "I think" means he has no information - just an opinion reach on his own from certain other information. And it seems like the "big reveal" on Monday was when asked about wedding plans Andi said said "they haven’t done any" and from that RS thinks there's trouble. IMHO that answer probably means just the opposite.

If ABC is going to televise a wedding, THEY will control when it takes place and when and who will announce it - just as they have always done. The couple will not be allowed to give out any substantive information until ABC decides they want it out. ABC will not release information prematurely because they know it will excite fans for a little bit but too early and the excitement dies down before the event and doesn't bring in viewers so they wait - typically until a month or two before air date. Right now is definitely not the right time because they want viewers to watch Chris's season and they don't want to cannibalize that for a one night event. The fact that "they" said they haven't done any planning does not necessarily mean that no planning has or is being done - only that someone else might be doing it and the statement Andi made could still be technically true.

[Guest]

Yep, I'm a huge believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," even if it's a couple that I love, but I just have trouble seeing it here other than Monday's "we're not thinking about a wedding," and what Steve posted yesterday....

They're out spotted together by their fans almost daily and usually the spotter posts they're so cute, happy, whatever, including integrating their friend groups and becoming friends with each others friends. It's just weird that she said that Monday and then immediately Steve posted it's dunzo city. Of course nothing but time will tell, it's just interesting to speculate on.

I had trouble seeing evidence of "trouble" on Monday (though YMMV - some think they say it - I just didn't) and circumstantially it would be illogical. The franchise trundled out all their "shining stars" to interviews on the red carpet (Ashley & JP have a new baby so they weren't there) but Sean & Catherine were and got a lot of camera time and so did Andi & Josh (Nikki was there because I think they were hoping she would trash Juan Pablo, but she really didn't) and to a lesser degree Marcus & Lacy. If there was trouble the show would know about it long before RS would and IMHO wouldn't have put them on the red carpet nor given them so much camera time.

And I take what RS posted with a big grain of sea salt. Over the years RS has been given a lot of information and like him or hate him, it's mostly very good. When he does have information he will often make comments clarified by "from what I'm hearing". When he doesn't have information then he may still make comments but they will usually be couched in "I think" terms. "I think" means he has no information - just an opinion reach on his own from certain other information. And it seems like the "big reveal" on Monday was when asked about wedding plans Andi said said "they haven’t done any" and from that RS thinks there's trouble. IMHO that answer probably means just the opposite.

If ABC is going to televise a wedding, THEY will control when it takes place and when and who will announce it - just as they have always done. The couple will not be allowed to give out any substantive information until ABC decides they want it out. ABC will not release information prematurely because they know it will excite fans for a little bit but too early and the excitement dies down before the event and doesn't bring in viewers so they wait - typically until a month or two before air date. Right now is definitely not the right time because they want viewers to watch Chris's season and they don't want to cannibalize that for a one night event. The fact that "they" said they haven't done any planning does not necessarily mean that no planning has or is being done - only that someone else might be doing it and the statement Andi made could still be technically true.

I know that I saw photos of Andi and Josh at a bridal show in NYC. She was trying on dresses! Of course they have done some wedding planning. She said that she would like to pick the dress then make other decisions after that. Those comments were made this fall. They may not be at the present time making more wedding plans, but certainly they have thought about it. It seems to me that other couples that have been married and had it televised were very coy about their wedding planning too. If they are working through relationship issues that is ok too. All couples need to do that. I hope the absolute best for them. If their wedding is on TV I will watch. <3

[Guest]

LOL...
This reminds me of the Emily/Jef debacle.
Their fans were in total denial but a few months later the bubble popped. The perfect couple was showing so many signs of love with shopping together, attending family gatherings together, always hand in hand until ...the fiasco. RS had warned there was trouble in paradise but the fans were adamant to say it was bad mouthing.
All this just seems quite familiar to me now...

[Kashathediva]

LOL...
This reminds me of the Emily/Jef debacle.
Their fans were in total denial but a few months later the bubble popped. The perfect couple was showing so many signs of love with shopping together, attending family gatherings together, always hand in hand until ...the fiasco. RS had warned there was trouble in paradise but the fans were adamant to say it was bad mouthing.
All this just seems quite familiar to me now...

Me, too, on many levels.
March is 7 weeks or so away. I will be interested in seeing what goes on by then.

[Justafan2]

LOL...
This reminds me of the Emily/Jef debacle.
Their fans were in total denial but a few months later the bubble popped. The perfect couple was showing so many signs of love with shopping together, attending family gatherings together, always hand in hand until ...the fiasco. RS had warned there was trouble in paradise but the fans were adamant to say it was bad mouthing.
All this just seems quite familiar to me now...

Me, too, on many levels.
March is 7 weeks or so away. I will be interested in seeing what goes on by then.

Why March kasha, because of WTA and AFTR?

[Kashathediva]

Nothing to do show related.

[Justafan2]

Would you mind elaborating then?

[Alanna]

LOL...
This reminds me of the Emily/Jef debacle.
Their fans were in total denial but a few months later the bubble popped. The perfect couple was showing so many signs of love with shopping together, attending family gatherings together, always hand in hand until ...the fiasco. RS had warned there was trouble in paradise but the fans were adamant to say it was bad mouthing.
All this just seems quite familiar to me now...

I didn't follow Emily and Jef so maybe it was exactly like this and I'm just cluelessly sailing down De Nile in a kayak with Josh and Andi at the moment, but this doesn't sound right to me. How does a fake relationship at this level work? They live together, sleep together (I assume), and generally present themselves to other people as a couple all the time. Do both of them know they're in a fake/pretend relationship or just one of them then? Is it an acknowledged thing between the two of them or it's like Fight Club? First rule of fake reality tv romance is not to mention the fake relationship? I don't know what Emily and Jef were like but at this magnitude, it seems nuts to me.

If anything, I would put them in the Ali/Rob, Jill/Ed or Sarah/Charlie category if they breakup- we tried, gave it a go, but ultimately we weren't the right match. Andi will go on to marry a 120lb nerdy boy who looks like Ducky from 16 Candles, thinks AdvoCare is a type of pro-wrestler or latest Kardashian baby and cannot differentiate between a football and a baseball; they'll have a cat named Mable (notice incorrect spelling, please) and exactly one child. Josh will marry a stunning blonde who is eggwhite, gfree, fat free, and give him a baseball team in children. Everyone will be happy, we'll live to duel it out another day over the next flava of the month couple.

[SueSt]

LOL...
This reminds me of the Emily/Jef debacle.
Their fans were in total denial but a few months later the bubble popped. The perfect couple was showing so many signs of love with shopping together, attending family gatherings together, always hand in hand until ...the fiasco. RS had warned there was trouble in paradise but the fans were adamant to say it was bad mouthing.
All this just seems quite familiar to me now...

I didn't follow Emily and Jef so maybe it was exactly like this and I'm just cluelessly sailing down De Nile in a kayak with Josh and Andi at the moment, but this doesn't sound right to me. How does a fake relationship at this level work? They live together, sleep together (I assume), and generally present themselves to other people as a couple all the time. Do both of them know they're in a fake/pretend relationship  or just one of them then?  Is it an acknowledged thing between the two of them or it's like Fight Club? First rule of fake reality tv romance is not to mention the fake relationship? I don't know what Emily and Jef were like but at this level, it seems nuts to me.

If anything, I would put them in the Ali/Rob, Jill/Ed or Sarah/Charlie category if they breakup- we tried, gave it a go, but ultimately we weren't the right match. Andi will go on to marry a 120lb nerdy boy who looks like Ducky, thinks Advocare is a type of pro-wrestler and cannot differentiate between a football and a baseball; they'll have a cat named Mable (notice incorrect spelling, please) and exactly one child. Josh will marry a stunning blonde who is eggwhite, gfree, fat free, and give him a baseball team in children. Everyone will be happy, we'll live to duel it out another day over the next flava of the month couple.

IMO, they don't know they are in a fake relationship.
They are perfect together on paper... have a lot of attraction, both from Atlanta, family-oriented...
And the newness, and their families, the holidays, the show-related engagements, the notoriety is keeping them from seeing how they really are together.
I don't think the dust has settled yet.... or maybe it's just beginning to...

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