Re: Andi Dorfman and Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - Media - Twitter - General Discussion Thread #2

[luvlady345]

There are other rumors out there about them and not just RS. CH is the last person I'd believe because he's all about what's good for the show and right now they don't want a breakup. Time will tell in any case.

Really, what else is out there?

[Guest]

RS gets most of his info from people or fans who email him. He thought Seancat were never going to make it and announced it here on the radio in Dallas many times.   I agree Luv, no one knows what really goes on behind closed doors.  They might make it, as we believe or they might not and RS has a 50% chance he is right.  

Let's not make it sound like he said they would never make it. He was skeptical right after the finale like he is every season. He figured out rather quickly that would be getting married. I could go dig up quotes but I don't have time for that since it hardly matters.

I'll believe these two are gonna make it once I see the wedding, whether that is on tv or not.

Yup, I agree. His attitude towards SeanCat was never the same as his attitude towards Courtney/Ben, Emily/Brad, Emily/Jef, Jillian/Ed and JP/Nikki, where he was always adamant and 100% confident about it never working out. I do remember he made a comment at the finale recap that "a vegan liberal probably isn't going to make it with a religious Texas boy", but a lot of people were saying that at the time. He quickly realized that they were going to make it and wasn't at all surprised when they announced the wedding date. What's more is that JODI was the only couple other than JP/Ashley where he actually stated that they had a pretty good chance of making it. If he's changing his tune, I don't think it's just random rumors. I think that they are still together because of their "brand" and the opportunities that being a successful couple presents, but I don't think that it's love.

[soccermom333]

I disagree and think they live together because they love each other not because of a brand. Whether they make it or not, time will tell. RS is changing his tune because of "fans" who emailed him. ;) Like i said 50% chance of being right. LOL

[Sprite]

The old quote "where there is smoke, there is fire" seems to apply to most of these reality type relationships. Get enough smoke and you can bet there is something going on....no matter how hard people deny it. We had the whole JPab/Nikki thing not too long ago, as well as Cody/MM. It started out like this and people denying any issues, they are in love, you are just those who are not fans, etc....and then...bam, it was all over.

Despite my not particularly caring for Josh and Andi, I actually thought they were a good match and had a better than most chance of making it. While I don't pay that much attention to what they are up to, I do skim their threads and while in a lot of their pictures they seem happy enough, there have been more of late, where I do not see Andi as happy as she was. Now she may have things on her mind or it was just a poor pic, but it is what I notice. Does that mean they are breaking up? I have no idea, but I do find it interesting and something to keep an eye on. As some have noted, tptb seem to dictate when break up announcements happen and since to me MeAndi is a very stubborn gal, I can see her digging in her heels to defy ally the naysayers just because she doesn't want to be wrong.

It will be interesting to see what...if anything...is going on, but there does seem to be some smoke....

[aviej]

I disagree and think they live together because they love each other not because of a brand.  Whether they make it or not, time will tell.  RS is changing his tune because of "fans" who emailed him.  ;)  Like i said 50% chance of being right.  LOL

I think it's laughable that Andi and Josh are staying together for the "brand" because really and truely, they are not a couple to go chasing after the limelight. Yes, they have made a couple of appearances, but to me, they are just a handful and don't amount to much to be chief reason to maintain a relationship.

[soccermom333]

I disagree and think they live together because they love each other not because of a brand.  Whether they make it or not, time will tell.  RS is changing his tune because of "fans" who emailed him.  ;)  Like i said 50% chance of being right.  LOL

I think it's laughable that Andi and Josh are staying together for the "brand" because really and truely, they are not a couple to go chasing after the limelight. Yes, they have made a couple of appearances, but to me, they are just a handful and don't amount to much to be chief reason to maintain a relationship.

I totally agree. No way they are together "just for the brand." They don't do many appearances and spend sooo much time with families. In fact the holidays were all about being with his family and hers. They both have good, strong relationships with their parents and I can't see them lying to them. Josh's Mom has posted, recently about them marrying in 2015.

Now does this mean everything is perfect? Of course not. We really don't know what goes on behind closed doors and time will tell if they make it down the aisle. I would be shocked if they did not make it, but certainly they won't be the first or the last couple to come off this show who are living together but did not make it.

I guess the next couple of months will be telling. ;)

[Alanna]

The old quote "where there is smoke, there is fire" seems to apply to most of these reality type relationships. Get enough smoke and you can bet there is something going on....no matter how hard people deny it. We had the whole JPab/Nikki thing not too long ago, as well as Cody/MM. It started out like this and people denying any issues, they are in love, you are just those who are not fans, etc....and then...bam, it was all over.

Despite my not particularly caring for Josh and Andi, I actually thought they were a good match and had a better than most chance of making it. While I don't pay that much attention to what they are up to, I do skim their threads and while in a lot of their pictures they seem happy enough, there have been more of late, where I do not see Andi as happy as she was. Now she may have things on her mind or it was just a poor pic, but it is what I notice. Does that mean they are breaking up? I have no idea, but I do find it interesting and something to keep an eye on. As some have noted, tptb seem to dictate when break up announcements happen and since to me MeAndi is a very stubborn gal, I can see her digging in her heels to defy ally the naysayers just because she doesn't want to be wrong.

It will be interesting to see what...if anything...is going on, but there does seem to be some smoke....

Yep, I'm a huge believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," even if it's a couple that I love, but I just have trouble seeing it here other than Monday's "we're not thinking about a wedding," and what Steve posted yesterday.  With Ali and Roberto, there were sightings and rumors for months that they were seen arguing in public, going out with their friends but sitting at opposite ends of the table, and spending the holidays apart.

I stalk Josh and Andi on sm more than I care to admit or is healthy probably, and there hasn't been any of that. They're out spotted together by their fans almost daily and usually the spotter posts they're so cute, happy, whatever, including integrating their friend groups and becoming friends with each others friends. It's just weird that she said that Monday and then immediately Steve posted it's dunzo city. Of course nothing but time will tell, it's just interesting to speculate on.

[Justafan2]

The old quote "where there is smoke, there is fire" seems to apply to most of these reality type relationships. Get enough smoke and you can bet there is something going on....no matter how hard people deny it. We had the whole JPab/Nikki thing not too long ago, as well as Cody/MM. It started out like this and people denying any issues, they are in love, you are just those who are not fans, etc....and then...bam, it was all over.

Despite my not particularly caring for Josh and Andi, I actually thought they were a good match and had a better than most chance of making it. While I don't pay that much attention to what they are up to, I do skim their threads and while in a lot of their pictures they seem happy enough, there have been more of late, where I do not see Andi as happy as she was. Now she may have things on her mind or it was just a poor pic, but it is what I notice. Does that mean they are breaking up? I have no idea, but I do find it interesting and something to keep an eye on. As some have noted, tptb seem to dictate when break up announcements happen and since to me MeAndi is a very stubborn gal, I can see her digging in her heels to defy ally the naysayers just because she doesn't want to be wrong.

It will be interesting to see what...if anything...is going on, but there does seem to be some smoke....

Yep, I'm a huge believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," even if it's a couple that I love, but I just have trouble seeing it here other than Monday's "we're not thinking about a wedding," and what Steve posted yesterday.  With Ali and Roberto, there were sightings and rumors for months that they were seen arguing in public, going out with their friends but sitting at opposite ends of the table, and spending the holidays apart.

I stalk Josh and Andi on sm more than I care to admit or is healthy probably, and there hasn't been any of that. They're out spotted together by their fans almost daily and usually the spotter posts they're so cute, happy, whatever, including integrating their friend groups and becoming friends with each others friends. It's just weird that she said that Monday and then immediately Steve posted it's dunzo city. Of course nothing but time will tell, it's just interesting to speculate on.

It is not stalking it is admiring. I am around the same age as both of them and live around the Atlanta area. I have several friends who live very close to them and they are ALWAYS texting me that they saw them at the gym together, eating out, etc. Although I do think their answer was a little strange on the wedding thing, I don't see why they would hang out all the time if they weren't still together. Even if they were faking for the money as some believe, they wouldn't have to spend that much time together or take each other to every family gathering. This is just my opinion of course.

[soccermom333]

The old quote "where there is smoke, there is fire" seems to apply to most of these reality type relationships. Get enough smoke and you can bet there is something going on....no matter how hard people deny it. We had the whole JPab/Nikki thing not too long ago, as well as Cody/MM. It started out like this and people denying any issues, they are in love, you are just those who are not fans, etc....and then...bam, it was all over.

Despite my not particularly caring for Josh and Andi, I actually thought they were a good match and had a better than most chance of making it. While I don't pay that much attention to what they are up to, I do skim their threads and while in a lot of their pictures they seem happy enough, there have been more of late, where I do not see Andi as happy as she was. Now she may have things on her mind or it was just a poor pic, but it is what I notice. Does that mean they are breaking up? I have no idea, but I do find it interesting and something to keep an eye on. As some have noted, tptb seem to dictate when break up announcements happen and since to me MeAndi is a very stubborn gal, I can see her digging in her heels to defy ally the naysayers just because she doesn't want to be wrong.

It will be interesting to see what...if anything...is going on, but there does seem to be some smoke....

Yep, I'm a huge believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," even if it's a couple that I love, but I just have trouble seeing it here other than Monday's "we're not thinking about a wedding," and what Steve posted yesterday.  With Ali and Roberto, there were sightings and rumors for months that they were seen arguing in public, going out with their friends but sitting at opposite ends of the table, and spending the holidays apart.

I stalk Josh and Andi on sm more than I care to admit or is healthy probably, and there hasn't been any of that. They're out spotted together by their fans almost daily and usually the spotter posts they're so cute, happy, whatever, including integrating their friend groups and becoming friends with each others friends. It's just weird that she said that Monday and then immediately Steve posted it's dunzo city. Of course nothing but time will tell, it's just interesting to speculate on.

[jlccaz]

Yeah exactly, Alanna. I think they are still a couple day to day, based upon many casual sightings of them out living their lives. I think it's interesting if the wedding plans are on ice for awhile, that's all.

[luvlady345]

See Justafan, I too use to live in the Athens area and who has friends who live in the Atlanta., and they see them also around so it's puzzling to me where all these rumors are coming from. It's crazy to me but I am not going to lay awake at night wondering about it.

[Ash2214]

Yeah, it's difficult to think or even see there's smoke given that they just spent two weeks straight traveling with both families to Tampa, Las Vegas, KC and then back back to Tampa. There were pictures and tweets of all of them spending time together, but also of Andi hanging out with just the Murray ladies while the guys hung out too. Right before they left for LA, there were tweets and pictures of Andi and Josh out to dinner with the Dorfman's and apparently Andi and Josh were "looking so cute together" at the mall right before they left too.
The guy who sat next to them on the plane had no issue saying they were a nice couple and enjoyed their company.

I personally just find it funny that RS has had quite a few posts within the past few weeks, but yet he said nothing about them. I would think if he had information that he would want to share it earlier given that he's had no issue before in doing so. I just thought it was interesting that the only time he mentioned something was after they said they weren't planning anything right now.

I'm certainly not saying they aren't going to break up. Anything is a possibility, but for the past 8 months, there really hasn't been any smoke with them. Like anything I guess time will tell. The next month or two will be very interesting.

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