Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - Fan Forum - Updates - Discussion - Thread #10

by stuckinsc Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:05 pm

sdmom wrote:I have to say, I may have different views on some topics than Nick, but I admire his honesty and openness. Totally love his sig " I say what's on my mind but always from my heart"!
Is it normal for a happily married middle aged woman to fangirl Nick so much?

If it stimulates you to be happier with hubby and he benefits, then no harm done right? cantstopl

Now, if you hunt Nick down and trap him in your basement, it might be a problem...

by Guest Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:16 pm

for those who dont venture outside the fan thread :

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t2560p480-nick-viall-bachelorette-10-discussion-thread-7

the post by a brand new poster named Mindless is note-worthy IMO. She/he had to came out from lurkdom just to voice her/his opinion about Nick , Andi and Josh . I found the poster represented most of my thoughts exactly yes

also, i found this season 's phenomenon is outstanding. People still keep talking about Nick long after the season ended--and yes, even after BIP started-- for varying reasons. Go figure ...
#NickisIrresistable #GoodorBad #Truth

by whit90 Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:18 pm

Litta123 wrote:Deep breaths, girls...

All I can say is WOW ....

Whoever ends up with this man is one very lucky woman. Jumping hearts

by MonicaJM2001 Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:43 pm

The IG of Nick from this morning is definitely one way to get you wide awake on a lazy relaxing Saturday Smiley

by julychild Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:59 pm

Comment from Nicks Insta:

jamcg2014 about 2 hours ago
@nick_viall28 Thank you!

nick_viall28 about an hour ago
@jamcg2014 np! Looking forward to meeting you tonight

Turns out Nick is not friends with Julie (jamcg2014), and is just helping out with the fundraiser. That's a kind thing for him to do. I pray for a large turn out and hope she is able to raise as much as possible, above all, I pray for a miraculous healing.

by sdmom Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:08 pm

julychild wrote:Comment from Nicks Insta:

jamcg2014 about 2 hours ago
@nick_viall28 Thank you!

nick_viall28 about an hour ago
@jamcg2014 np! Looking forward to meeting you tonight

Turns out Nick is not friends with Julie (jamcg2014), and is just helping out with the fundraiser. That's a kind thing for him to do. I pray for a large turn out and hope she is able to raise as much as possible, above all, I pray for a miraculous healing.

Exactly!

Cancer sucks!!

by SueSt Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:25 pm

mindless wrote:I had to come out of lurkdom to address this point. It seems many people think of Andi as the victim due to Nick saying what he did. I'm sure Andi herself thinks she's the victim. However, I and many others think Nick is the victim in this whole scenario, and him saying something he maybe shouldn't have doesn't justify Andi's conduct during and after the season. Nick might have misbehaved, but he's still the victim. Andi did all in her power (she's not allowed to say "I love you" to anyone, so not saying it is no excuse) to encourage Nick's feelings towards her, even said "I wish I could say things back" to him and went as far as sleeping with him, despite having stronger feelings for Josh. Being scared Josh might leave, even after him giving her those ten roses and talking about proposing, doesn't really excuse playing with Nick's feelings to that extent. And even if it did, treating him like a homeless person asking for change at the side of the road, instead of a man she was considering spending the rest of her life with, makes her seem very immature and bratty. I think she started thinking of herself as the victim the moment Nick accused her of taking things too far, because walking away from his hotel her body language said "Whatever, I'm over it, I'll just focus on Josh now". And that's how she's been ever since. Well guess what Andi, if it's part of your "job" to break someone's heart, then it's also part of your job to face them at ATFR. She had all the time in the world to prepare for that. She even knew what was on his mind still, because he wrote her that letter. Yet she acted like talking to him was a total nuisance and she'd rather just gush about Josh and their eternal love. And I'm not just reading too much into her demeanor, she herself has said in several interviews, the radio thing the other day included, that they were over it all two months ago and thought there was no point rehashing anything. That's just incredibly self-absorbed IMO. Just because she and Josh were over it and happy in love, doesn't mean Nick was as lucky. While they were reliving their love story week after week, Nick was reliving his heartbreak and wondering if he'd imagined everything. The least she could do is show a bit of compassion for him and give him some honest answers. Yet getting any sort of emotion out of her was like pulling teeth out. Then she said she was never in love with Nick and implied he should have known since she didn't say it, as if she was even allowed to. She also said that if she had to do it all over again, she'd still have the same "great" relationship with Nick, as if there's nothing she did wrong or should've done differently. I can totally understand Nick thinking at that point that she had no regard for his feelings, because it really was all about her and her feelings. That's what he voiced with the unfortunate question. His bafflement over how cavalier she was with his feelings. I'm sure her selfishness was a shock to him, because it was to me too. And I really tried liking her all season long, even sided with her on the Eric thing, though the talk with CH after made me uncomfortable, because it was also all about her instead of the man who died.

But her misconduct didn't end at the ATFR. In the interviews that followed she basically scoffed at Nick all "whatever, he's a jerk, we're so over it". Then she favoured several nasty tweets about him, one even saying he was just acting, which she would have to be willfully blind to think. Even after everything, she still didn't even try to see things from his point of view. Not a single thought was given to the possibility that she might've have lead him on a bit too much. Oh no, Andi does NO WRONG. Nick is a bad guy, who showed his true colours by embarrassing poor innocent Andi. Which still begs the question "If there was nothing wrong with Andi having sex with Nick and it was even expected, then why is it a crime to mention it?". I'm still not clear on what the answer to that is, except "That's just not something polite men do". Yeah, so maybe it wasn't polite, but it's hardly a crime, especially considering the circumstances. Even if no one besides Nick knew she had sex with him, it doesn't change the fact that she did, so if someone thinks that makes her a sl** then it's got nothing to do with Nick. IMO, it was clearly not Nick's intention to shame her, he just posed a valid question in the heat of the moment. However, aside from hoping she'd been more careful with his heart (which is a valid criticism), he's had nothing but nice things to say about Andi and Josh post-show and he's wished them all the happiness in the world. Compare that to Andi and Josh acting like Nick is scum they just want to brush under the carpet. Who do you think is more mature? That radio interview really didn't make me any more sympathetic towards them. The female host kept calling Nick "creepy Nick" and they were still of the opinion that he should've remained forgotten, since they're over him and so happy now. Damn Nick for still existing and having feelings after he was dumped. And Andi making some comment about Josh bashing Nick's skull in, had he been in contact with him at ATFR? Yeah, violence is so funny! If you're in high school.

I wonder what blogs Andi was referring to when she said she cried her eyes out over the comments. Sharleen's blog? I sure hope not, because even though 90% of the comments there were pro-Nick, no one was bashing Andi. All the commentators raised valid points in a respectful manner. If that made Andi cry then that was a cry she needed. We all need to learn to deal with constructive criticism at some point in our lives. Not sure about the comments on Sean's blog, since I didn't read those. I can understand being upset by the nasty name-calling on Twitter and such, but a confident person would realize it says more about the people doing it than it does about you. I really hope she doesn't lump everyone defending Nick in the same 'I don't care what they say, they're idiots' category.

Thanks Mura for the heads up on mindless' post :WAVEY: .

#NickisIrresistable #GoodNOTBad #Truth

My response follows below:

Hi Mindless,

Thanks for your comments.

Responding to comments in Nick’s discussion thread is a slippery slope and one that I choose not ride on... so I will respond to your post in Nick’s Fan thread. Thanks for your support of Nick.

I personally believe that Andi was in love with Nick and tried to rewrite her feelings at the end of the season and certainly in the post show. Andi is and was entitled to choose Josh, no problem with that and regardless of whether she was in love with Nick or not (no problem with that), Nick was in love with her, and her failure to show compassion for him was shameful and something that ultimately reflects poorly on her and no one else.

I’m not sure if Nick thought he imagined things... he said watching the show actually confirmed for him that he was NOT imagining things. He never recanted that he loved Andi, he repeated that what they shared was uniquely special... and this was what was so difficult for Nick to reconcile.... particularly I would imagine, in the after show.

Nick has been nothing but a class act post show. I didn’t listen to the interview you are referencing... interesting that Andi said she cried her eyes out... but based on the Josh would bash Nick’s skull in comments, nasty retweeting, etc..... she still has not shown any awareness or remorse for her part in this drama... which as you said, is totally immature high school stuff.

Andi can lump me in a defending Nick 'I don't care what they say, they're idiots' category....' happy to be here!! :yes:

Thanks again for your thoughtful post and welcome to #teamnick!

Sue

by Guest Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:15 pm

Well said, mindless! I agree with your post. rock

by notarose Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:50 pm

Fundraiser

@statechicago
Hello #chicago!!! We have #thebachlorette's @Nick_Viall28 hosting a party that you don't want to miss! We're raising money to #savetheboobies, cause #breastcancersucks! So come on down, there's still an hour left! #cancersucks #breastcancerawareness
http://instagram.com/p/rx3cm0l_Q5/

@Tee_maria34
& to top off an already great day
https://mobile.twitter.com/Tee_Marie34/status/500804475737894912/photo/1

@jokeefer
So throughout the course of a ten minute conversation, @nick_viall28 1) called me a stalker, 2) declined to come to a party at our apartment, and 3) said "I'm going to need to step away now to meet my friends" #NoteAwkwardHandOnShoulder #BachelorNation
http://websta.me/p/788677898647692960_173746592

@dmerm
Fun times stalking Nick V(neck)
http://websta.me/p/788678863456639668_17283141

@lindseyvdodd
Not creepy at all. Nick from the bachelorette is at State for all you hungry ladies.
http://websta.me/p/788614890855500638_193015417

@ statechicago
Hello #chicago!!! We have #thebachlorette's @Nick_Viall28 hosting a party that you don't want to miss! We're raising money to #savetheboobies, cause #breastcancersucks! So come on down, there's still an hour left!
http://websta.me/p/788655532991312964_143576532

(Great crowd!)

http://websta.me/p/788654876834395182_143576532