Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - Fan Forum - Updates - Discussion - Thread #10

[nutty1]

My heart broke for Mary when I saw those pictures. As many prayers as possible would certainly help.

[SueSt]

Favorited tweet by Nick:

@marcusgrodd
Thoughts and prayers go out to @viallnicholas28 and his family!#Bachelorette #bachelornation
9 Aug 14

 

... and tweeted by Nick:
@marcusgrodd thanks for the thoughts and prayers.

A little reconciliation.  Nice!   

[emad0722]

Favorited tweet by Nick:

@marcusgrodd
Thoughts and prayers go out to @viallnicholas28 and his family!#Bachelorette #bachelornation
9 Aug 14

 

... and tweeted by Nick:
@marcusgrodd thanks for the thoughts and prayers.

A little reconciliation.  Nice!   

they obviously have chatted and nick apologised or something. Odd how people can change within a week.

I hope they both realise hating people takes too much effort and life is too short to bear grudges. Especially when things as tragic as this and Eric's death occur.

[Guest]

Also this:
Donnie @chi_citygrl     ·   Jul 30    
@viallnicholas28 Sam Smith...Chicago...September 22. I bring the Cheetos, you bring the peanut butter.

There's another interesting one, but Nick doesn't seem to be paying attention. She's may be friends with Dana- Possessionista (her fav was Nick). There are some tweets between them. http://instagram.com/khuff_

Kendra Huffman @KendraHuffman  ·  Jul 17
What's a girl gotta do to run into @viallnicholas28 in the city of Chicago? Is the scarf section at Nordstrom my best bet?

Kendra Huffman @KendraHuffman  ·  15h
@viallnicholas28 come to rockit

Kendra Huffman ‏@KendraHuffman 15h
@viallnicholas28 eh hem

from what we have heard after the fact, Ben's exit was horrible, he was actually storming toward Ash (with name calling and all ) since he was convinced (thanks to the producers egging him) that Ash would accept his proposal. BUT all were heavily edited by TPTB since he was pegged as the next lead. So in the end, nothing much controversial about it, i guess.

Ben stormed away from her, not at her. She wanted to talk and he told her not to sugarcoat it.

I recall the rumor being that he yelled, "YOU JUST SLEPT WITH ME!"  

[SueSt]

Really good article:

http://www.thefrisky.com/2014-08-08/the-bachelorette-romance-reject-nick-viall-blogs-about-sex-in-the-fantasy-suite-with-andi-dorfman/

“The Bachelorette” Romance Reject Nick Viall Blogs About Sex In The Fantasy Suite With Andi Dorfman
Posted by Jessica Wakeman  /August 8, 2014

While “Bachelorette” Andi Dorfman is busy posting pictures of her fiancé Josh Murray on her Instagram, her number two choice Nick Viall is preoccupied with something else. Getting dumped by Andi, yes, but also why she slept with him in the “fantasy suite” (AKA the place on the show where the couple can be together without the cameras around for an entire evening).

We all watched on the “After The Final Rose” episode as Chris Harrison explained that twice after getting dumped, Nick tried to contact Andi to talk in person. Both times, she refused to see him. The two finally saw each other for the first time on live TV and Nick got the opportunity  — prodded by Harrison — to ask Andi what had been weighing on his mind. What he asked wasn’t necessarily what anyone expected a good-looking 30something dude to ask and it dominated headlines the next day:  ”Why did you make love to me if you didn’t love me?”

Andi acted like a snot and huffed that his question was “below the belt.” However, as Nick wrote in a long essay on ex-”Bachelor” Sean Lowe’s blog for the religion website Patheos.com, it was very much a question on Nick’s mind all along. He was expecting to have gotten engaged to Andi in a few days hence. He was deeply in love and sex, clearly, meant a lot more to him than it did to her.

Nick writes:

By now, everyone knows what happened in the fantasy suite between Andi and me. In the “After the Final Rose” episode, I had no intention of confronting Andi with my now infamous question about why she had sex with me. I figured she had been conflicted about what must’ve been a tough decision. The world of ‘The Bachelorette’ is a complicated one, after all.

However, she started explaining away our relationship in the tidiest terms. In her explanation, she confessed that she had never loved me.

I let that sink in.

She never loved me.

As I sat there on national television, I tried to process this information. In my mind, I went back to that night in the fantasy suite. Though she couldn’t tell me that she loved me, I’d told her in no uncertain terms how I felt. I loved her.

This was no fling for me. As far as I was concerned, we’d be engaged in a few days.

To me, sex between us was a big deal, and she knew it.

That’s why I feel Andi’s decision to have sex with me was not appropriate. Either she was unsure about our relationship or – worse – she was certain she was choosing Josh. In both of those circumstances, I felt as if she didn’t respect my feelings and that she should not had sex with me.

Nick then goes on to actually bust gender stereotypes, writing that yes, there is an emotional component of sex that can matter greatly to men. He asks that no one “shame Andi to support me” (a reference to all those who claimed “sl**-shaming” during that part of “After The Final Rose”) but instead implores readers to “be sensitive to the emotional attachment that sex has to your partner and treat it with the greatest amount of respect.” Nick writes:


To me what’s most important is that the two people involved have a clear understanding of what sex means to the other person. If the emotional attachment to sex isn’t equal, sex can be hurtful. Consequently, it should be treated with the greatest amount of respect.

Yes, both men and women need to respect it.

Sometimes people laugh off any emotional damage that sex can do to guys. The boys-will-be-boys mentality suggests the majority of men are really just looking to add another “notch on their belt.” Because of this unfair – inaccurate – stereotype, it’s often considered unmanly for a man to speak about the emotional repercussions of sex. But I’m here to attest that men fall in love just as hard as women do and that sex can be just as powerful to a man as it is to a woman.

I have to say that Nick Viall was always my favorite choice on that show and I’m impressed with everything he wrote here. He has realistic expectations for modern day sexual mores  — even for a TV show based on highly traditional ways of dating — and obviously he was just not looking for “casual sex” with Andi. (Although casual sex, in and of itself, is not something I have a problem with.)

It’s a shame that in 2014 Nick even has to say all this; it should just be a matter of having decency towards one another.  If Andi were Andy and Nick were Nicole, everyone’s head would be exploding over Andy being a sleaze. I give Nick a lot of respect for writing this — more, I’ll say, than he ever got from Andi.

[Cecilia]

Favorited tweet by Nick:

@marcusgrodd
Thoughts and prayers go out to @viallnicholas28 and his family!#Bachelorette #bachelornation
9 Aug 14

 

... and tweeted by Nick:
@marcusgrodd thanks for the thoughts and prayers.

That was nice of Marcus. I have to say, I liked Marcus on his first 1 on 1 date with Andi then not much because of his not-so-nice words against Nick during and after the show, but this tweet changed my view of him. I like the exchange between these two; it  shows maturity on both sides.

I agree! Yeah Marcus. Andi, on the other hand, still favoriting nasty tweets about Nick. She is still super angry. Odd. If you don't care about him, why so angry?

[beader]

Although I would LOVE to see Nick on my TV, I don't think I can take  the negativity that's bound to come. Most comments under the US article are negative. Besides, I need a life! It will be extremely fun to spend all my time here with my fellow Nick chicks, but I don't think my family will understand why I need to check this board every five minutes. Lol
Like some other people mentioned, Survivor or Amazing Race will be great for Nick, I think the chance is slim, because they are CBS shows. What other ABC shows will be good for him? No DWTS please! Thus guy can't dance!

The bolded is the only reason I don't want Nick as next Bachelor. :cutesmile!: I have been weaning myself and then little stories like this reel me back in!
On another note - if you ever see me on this board spending tons of time negatively discussing a contestant please DM me and tell me to get help.  Thanks.  

At least the line for help will be very short. First, you have to admit you have a problem; second, you have to want to get help. Very short line indeed.

[nutty1]

Also this:
Donnie @chi_citygrl     ·   Jul 30    
@viallnicholas28 Sam Smith...Chicago...September 22. I bring the Cheetos, you bring the peanut butter.

There's another interesting one, but Nick doesn't seem to be paying attention. She's may be friends with Dana- Possessionista (her fav was Nick). There are some tweets between them. http://instagram.com/khuff_

Kendra Huffman @KendraHuffman  ·  Jul 17
What's a girl gotta do to run into @viallnicholas28 in the city of Chicago? Is the scarf section at Nordstrom my best bet?

Kendra Huffman @KendraHuffman  ·  15h
@viallnicholas28 come to rockit

Kendra Huffman ‏@KendraHuffman  15h
@viallnicholas28 eh hem

from what we have heard after the fact, Ben's exit was horrible, he was actually storming toward Ash (with name calling and all ) since he was convinced (thanks to the producers egging him) that Ash would accept his proposal. BUT all were heavily edited by TPTB since he was pegged as the next lead. So in the end, nothing much controversial about it, i guess.

Ben stormed away from her, not at her. She wanted to talk and he told her not to sugarcoat it.

I recall the rumor being that he yelled, "YOU JUST SLEPT WITH ME!"  

No, not at all….he told her not to sugarcoat it. He got all the way down on one knee and I think was quite humiliated.

[MonicaJM2001]

Nick's dad tweeted a link to an instagram Mary Viall posted regarding her brother.... Such heartbreaking yet beautiful words

[happygolucky]

      
it's so nice to come here after a long day [that I've spent with my dad, at a golf course - my first ... being a caddy to a beginner... so you can imagine] ... and seeing so much love and sympathy and compassion and goodwill hearts.

[nutty1]

This picture is from Nick's dad public Twitter. I also asked his mom on FB if it was OK to post and she sees it as a tribute to her brother and was fine with me posting it.

chris viall ‏@cviall11 · 5h


My Hero, I spent the last four days of Marks life with him keeping my promise by staying beside him throughout his last days. That was made possible by the sacrifice of my family, friends, and co-workers. Being with Mark for those four days were the most intimate and precious days that I could have ever been blessed with no matter the many moments of despair. It appeared that he needed me or someone to be there to comfort him, whether it was to massage his feet, his neck, scratching his head, understanding what he was trying to communicate, or just being by his side holding his hand. but it was him actually fulfilling my needs as well. He always appeared to people as someone who needed someone to depend on, but actually it was Mark that we could always depend on. As long as I can remember growing up with Mark, he always would imagine and pretend he was someone's hero. Many times he was criticized or laughed at by peers and even loved ones. For many of us we try so hard, even subconsciously at times to be a hero in someone's life. Many of us fail because of wanting that position for our own selfish needs and recognition. So what I came to realize Mark didn't realize or had to try, he was always that hero to everyone throughout his life. What stood between the realization for many was probably pride. For those who knew him son, brother, sister, nephew, niece, or friend, Mark has always been the hero we have been longing for.

[isittrue]

Beautiful post. Again, my deepest condolences to the Viall family.

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