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Post by stuckinsc Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:58 pm

I admire Sean for giving Nick the opportunity and his comment in the comment section that acknowledges that while he doesn't share the beliefs he admires and also admit he gave Nick a lot of crap all season on SM.

I hope this was cathartic and helped Nick heal. I think the fact that Andi refuses to acknowledge she had feeling for Nick helped me to get over it. She doesn't deserve him if she would be that disrespectful to him.
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Post by isittrue Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:58 pm

Just when I think I can't like the guy more than I already did, he posts this blog  awwww 

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Post by isittrue Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:01 pm

stuckinsc wrote:I admire Sean for giving Nick the opportunity and his comment in the comment section that acknowledges that while he doesn't share the beliefs he admires and also admit he gave Nick a lot of crap all season on SM.

I hope this was cathartic and helped Nick heal.  I think the fact that Andi refuses to acknowledge she had feeling for Nick helped me to get over it.  She doesn't deserve him if she would be that disrespectful to him.

You're right and she does not deserve him. That's why I said I wish she was different or that he was on a different season with a different lead. I just feel bad because Nick did fall for her and it happened on her season.

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Post by Cecilia Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:03 pm

In the Jezebel interview (which she was interviewed for after the MTA and before the ATFR) Andi said that she knew it was Josh after the FS. So, I honestly think that she wasn't sure when she slept with Nick. But, also in that interview she says that she wouldn't be engaged if Josh wasn't there and that although she definitely had an attraction to Nick, that it was really hard because she liked Nick, and that he "definitely was the second person." So, what she says in interviews is confusing and conflicting. It's a combo between her honest feelings, a re-writing of history (not necessarily in a bad way but in a what you have to do now that you are ready to marry someone else kind of way).
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Post by Kashathediva Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:06 pm

I was glad to read Nick's blog post. It only solidified to me what I thought was going on all along.



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Post by isittrue Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Cecilia wrote:In the Jezebel interview (which she was interviewed for after the MTA and before the ATFR) Andi said that she knew it was Josh after the FS.  So, I honestly think that she wasn't sure when she slept with Nick.  But, also in that interview she says that she wouldn't be engaged if Josh wasn't there and that although she definitely had an attraction to Nick, that it was really hard because she liked Nick, and that he "definitely was the second person." So, what she says in interviews is confusing and conflicting.  It's a combo between her honest feelings, a re-writing of history (not necessarily in a bad way but in a what you have to do now that you are ready to marry someone else kind of way).

The only thing was that Nick was not on the same page as Andi when it came to sex. He basically said that if she was confused about their relationship she should not have slept with him knowing how he felt about her and also that if she knew she was picking Josh she should not have slept with him either.

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Post by isittrue Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:09 pm

Kashathediva wrote:I was glad to read Nick's blog post. It only solidified to me what I thought was going on all along.


So what do you think was going on? I always like hearing your point of view.

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Post by Cecilia Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:10 pm

isittrue wrote:
Cecilia wrote:In the Jezebel interview (which she was interviewed for after the MTA and before the ATFR) Andi said that she knew it was Josh after the FS.  So, I honestly think that she wasn't sure when she slept with Nick.  But, also in that interview she says that she wouldn't be engaged if Josh wasn't there and that although she definitely had an attraction to Nick, that it was really hard because she liked Nick, and that he "definitely was the second person." So, what she says in interviews is confusing and conflicting.  It's a combo between her honest feelings, a re-writing of history (not necessarily in a bad way but in a what you have to do now that you are ready to marry someone else kind of way).

The only thing was that Nick was not on the same page as Andi when it came to sex.   He basically said that if she was confused about their relationship she should not have slept with him knowing how he felt about her and also that if she knew she was picking Josh she should not have slept with him either.

I also think that he was not on the same page regarding sex IN THIS SITUATION. Because she couldn't tell him how he felt, he kept on interpreting all of these actions by her as confirmation that she was in love with him. Also, the idea that a proposal was on the line was another factor. I highly doubt that Nick has never had casual sex. JMO.
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Post by isittrue Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:17 pm

Cecilia wrote:
isittrue wrote:
Cecilia wrote:In the Jezebel interview (which she was interviewed for after the MTA and before the ATFR) Andi said that she knew it was Josh after the FS.  So, I honestly think that she wasn't sure when she slept with Nick.  But, also in that interview she says that she wouldn't be engaged if Josh wasn't there and that although she definitely had an attraction to Nick, that it was really hard because she liked Nick, and that he "definitely was the second person." So, what she says in interviews is confusing and conflicting.  It's a combo between her honest feelings, a re-writing of history (not necessarily in a bad way but in a what you have to do now that you are ready to marry someone else kind of way).

The only thing was that Nick was not on the same page as Andi when it came to sex.   He basically said that if she was confused about their relationship she should not have slept with him knowing how he felt about her and also that if she knew she was picking Josh she should not have slept with him either.

I also think that he was not on the same page regarding sex IN THIS SITUATION.  Because she couldn't tell him how he felt, he kept on interpreting all of these actions by her as confirmation that she was in love with him.  Also, the idea that a proposal was on the line was another factor.  I highly doubt that Nick has never had casual sex.  JMO.

I don't doubt that either. IA that in this situation, they definitely were not on the same page. Like you stated, he interpreted every action, every rose as a confirmation of her feelings for him and to him having sex with him shortly after he verbally told her ILY, was just another confirmation of what he believed were her true unspoken feelings for him. Her verbal reassurances continued during the LCD as well. It's a shame they were never on the same page but I guess a blessing in disguise. I still feel bad for him though. It's never fun to be the one who gets their heart broken.

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Post by notarose Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:22 pm

Really like this tweeter's comment so am posting it:
@SeanLowe09 @viallnicholas28 Nick was honest from day 1. When you're honest you have nothing to hide and you don't hide from people.

Nick and Sean are both fully aware that "fans" will comment as they so choose.  Although Sean and Nick disagree on "pre-martial" sex I think they are likely aligned on the reason why two people decide to make love and express intimacy. 
Sean is staying true to himself by being open to that fact that a view other than his own is worth listening to and Nick is true to himself in not shying away from his truth.  
They are both "salt of the earth".  yes


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Post by Catdwoman50 Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:34 pm

^^Props to Sean for his tweet. Still a fan [SeanCat].


Need to do something productive and stop hanging out in this forum (after Nick's season)
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Post by b Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:59 pm

I am even more impressed with this man! In addition to being handsome, intelligent, charming, sensitive...we add courageous!! Kudos to Nick (and Sean Lowe) for this, which will get both men & women talking. After reading this I think perhaps if she had acknowledged she cared for him, but just loved Josh more...the sex topic wouldn't have come up...but maybe it's good it did.

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