Bachelor In Paradise - Episode 2 August 11 2014 - General Discussion - *Spoilers*

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EPISODE 2:

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With Dylan/Elise, I think he just feigned outrage/disappointment at her making out with Chris so as to have an excuse to extract himself from the romantic relationship with her. Since yeah, he pretty much told her to date other people. If she hadn't made out with Chris, Dylan would have had to come up with some other reason to end it. He should have just told her flat out he wasn't interested in her anymore, as cruel as that sounds. This way, she thought that his being bothered by her kissing another guy meant he really cared for her, and she is definitely the type to seek out the "mixed signals" at all costs. That said, her "speech" at the RC and the reaction clips of the others was one of the high points of the show. Much more entertaining than the stupidity about Michelle K and the Putz (even his name didn't make it as funny as the producers thought, IMO).

Marcus and Lacy are completely, googly-eyed, infatuated with each other, no doubt, but with editing and this franchise's aversion to showing any substantive conversations, it's difficult to know if there's any "there" there. Time will tell. To be honest, neither seems very deep to me. They sure are pretty though.

Michelle Money was ridiculously over the top in her "heartbreak" about Ben. I guess she has to do something to earn her bigger paycheck.   

Now we're starting to see why Marquel was never really in consideration to be the next Bachelor. He doesn't know how to play the game. I think we will see even greater evidence of this in the next couple of episodes, when I believe he goes on dates with more women.

Last night was the Elise Crazy Train Show.  I feel badly for Dylan because Elise certainly was delusional about their connection and relationship potential.  I wish that Dylan had been able to more clearly articulate to Elise that he wasn't interested in continuing on with a mutually exclusive relationship with her.  He tried to say it to her in a beat-around-the-bush sort of way and by dropping lots of hints that most normal women would have picked up on.  Elise just brainwashed herself into believing in something that wasn't there.  Because of all of the Elise drama Dylan missed out on possibly meeting somebody else. I was, however, gald for his sake that he did get to leave and get away from Elise.  I wonder what he is thinking as he has watched 2 episodes with Elise's ITMs.  He dodged a big bullet.

I wish we had gotten to see more of my strudel last night, but, hey, he got more air time than some, so I guess I should be grateful for what I did get. What I see and I like about Marcus is that he is obviously taking things slowly with Lacy.  First few days in paradise he seemed very introspective and a little sad. Now we see scenes with Marquel and Dylan where he is laughing and goofing around having a fun time. When they showed Marcus and Lacy together since he gave his rose to her, he seems interested but cautious.  He behaves like a gentleman around her, holding her hand, being soft spoken, going in for the occasional kiss.  He said her sweetness and kindness made an impression on him right away. (Maybe dating Andi taught him a thing or two about the importance of compassion in a partner.)

Marcus commented that Lacy has asked him good questions and seems to really want to know him (as opposed to just being physical with him).  We also heard Robert say that he shared a lot about his life and family during his time and date with Lacy.  So, even though they only focused on the hot and heavy kissing in the ocean with Robert, it appears that Lacy was interested in some substantial conversations with Robert, as well.  It appeared as if after their dinner portion of their date last week, that Lacy had lost some of that twinkle in her eye for Robert.  While they did go for a dip in the ocean after dinner, no physical stuff was shown.  Then the following day we heard Robert lament that he hadn't spoken to Lacy all day since their date.  To me that shows that Lacy may have begun to think that she and Robert weren't such a good match.  Maybe she didn't think their conversation went well, that they were truly compatible, or that Robert was more interested in her physically.  Afterall, he did come on just as strongly as she did on day one.  Maybe she realized that it had been too much too quickly, and she developed buyer's remorse. With Marcus it seems slow and steady.  Lacy is obviously a very voluptous woman, but I am looking forward to seeing more of her personality and character traits.  Those are the things that will make for a real connection between her and Marcus.  From what little I've seen of her thus far, I like the Lacy that I see when she is with Marcus. Last night she was sweet and mellow.  I hope to see more of them in the episodes to come, but fear all of the paradise drama will continue to over shadow their love story.

Also, Sharlene's blog and SC of Marcus in his tightie orangies proves that Marcus was NOT wearing a jock cup during his stripper GD.  You've all heard of high top apple pie?  Well, what we've got here is some high top apple strudel. And this is even with the shrinkage factor from the ocean water. Or is that Mexican water that hot?

ETA: Loved the Jaws music as Chris B entered the show and the calliope music during Elise's speech!

Well, the gulf in Mexico certainly could be that warm. Doing a basic search for that time of year, water temps are in the low-mid 80's
But the bottom line is Marcus is probably blessed.

Lucas15 wrote:

dw_a_mom wrote:

grace8136 wrote:Is Dylan playing games? He pushed her away and now blames her? That's all crazy.

As much as I like Dylan, that conversation where he suggested she mingle with other people without explaining what was in his head was not his best moment.  He needs to learn to just come out and say what he really means instead of trying to be nice (translate:  confusing) about it.

No Dylan isn't playing games - he was trying to be considerate of Elise's feelings and it backfired on him. This is a no win situation - IMHO if he was direct and said what he was thinking he could have said "Elise I think you need to develop other relationships because I'm really not that into you and you should find someone who is". Of course then she could have been crushed and angry and we would be saying he's cold and hard hearted. Like I said - he couldn't win this one but that's mostly because Elise wasn't picking up on a big and figured he was playing the same game she was playing.

 I respectfully disagree.  I think that he was playing a game and he got mad when it back fired.  Dylan is a Scorpio male and Scorpios will test a women's loyalty/faithfulness.   I do think that he started to really like Elisa, but wanted to be sure that she was really into him and not just the Show. So he started pushing her away to see if she would remain loyal to him.  Unfortunately Elisa failed the testing game.  jmo

Not sure where to plop it, but more "insight" into the show.



For those without the time or patience...

Michelle Money was more upset at Ben the Parent taking time away from his kid simply to party. They all loved Ben for the fun times (a.k.a. "yopo"), but obviously he wasn't serious with a girlfriend back home.

Dylan was, according to Robert, very honest and upfront. He was OK going home if he didn't find "it" on the show. Didn't with Elise.

Everybody finds Chris Bukowski funny despite his "villain" role per edit.

Something-something was... and may still be... brewing between Clare and Zorro (a.k.a. Zack). They are quite talkative with each other on twitter, but there are no spoilers online suggesting they are a couple post-show. (Just friends? Or a hidden couple, if not "engaged", missed by the sleuthers?) A lot was edited out, but I would have enjoyed seeing Zack bargaining 650 peso at the market for her itty bitty bikini.

2observe wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

dw_a_mom wrote:
As much as I like Dylan, that conversation where he suggested she mingle with other people without explaining what was in his head was not his best moment.  He needs to learn to just come out and say what he really means instead of trying to be nice (translate:  confusing) about it.

No Dylan isn't playing games - he was trying to be considerate of Elise's feelings and it backfired on him. This is a no win situation - IMHO if he was direct and said what he was thinking he could have said "Elise I think you need to develop other relationships because I'm really not that into you and you should find someone who is". Of course then she could have been crushed and angry and we would be saying he's cold and hard hearted. Like I said - he couldn't win this one but that's mostly because Elise wasn't picking up on a big and figured he was playing the same game she was playing.

 I respectfully disagree.  I think that he was playing a game and he got mad when it back fired.  Dylan is a Scorpio male and Scorpios will test a women's loyalty/faithfulness.   I do think that he started to really like Elisa, but wanted to be sure that she was really into him and not just the Show. So he started pushing her away to see if she would remain loyal to him.  Unfortunately Elisa failed the testing game.  jmo

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. At the start of the episode when they were first sitting on the beach and she started discussing their signs, you could just see him rolling his eyes. That was it. I knew he was less than interested. Yes, she is an attractive woman and no doubt he was initially attracted to her, but it was clear that once she started talking he was done. He was not testing her to see if she was loyal. He wanted her gone and clearly told her don't give me the rose because I will not accept it. I don't know how much clearer he needs to be. If she didn't understand that, then there is nothing he could do or say to make her understand.

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nutty1 wrote:

chloep wrote:EPISODE 2:

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nutty1 wrote:

chloep wrote:EPISODE 2:

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