Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

Laudergirl wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Laudergirl wrote:Who is JEM? I haven't been able to figure that one out?

Jef and Emily

Makes sense! Thanks. I never had a good feeling about that coupling. I feel much more confident in JODI.

I agree Jef and Emily were never a match and could not figure out how she chose him. On the other hand Josh and Andi are a match IMO. Even MM said that Josh has finally met his match.

We made it through a JEM breakup

THEY BROKEUP? nooooooo.

Laudergirl wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Laudergirl wrote:Who is JEM? I haven't been able to figure that one out?

Jef and Emily

Makes sense! Thanks. I never had a good feeling about that coupling. I feel much more confident in JODI.

I agree, I thought they were ill-suited, but anyways, that's history.

Ok I get Josh's alleged L & S quote now. Just watched a clip from Couples Therapy regarding Juan Pablo/Nikki and Andi. I can totally see where Josh is coming from being the protective guy he is. If I were him I wouldn't like the guy or want JP anywhere near my wedding either. He simply can't hide his disdain for him, even when talking to the press. He's too honest.

I think Hy had it right too!

Wow ! I love the excuses Josh is getting here. Sorry but he acted like a jerk. I never liked Andi and thought Josh deserved better but now after seeing Josh and his interactions with the media and his twitter since the show ended I think they make a perfect couple and that is not a compliment. Protective? Please. More like controlling. Nikki is not Josh's friend she is Andi's and JP is her boyfriend. I know some friends that I disliked their boyfriends but I would never do what Josh did by saying what he said in a magazine. Andi can have him and keep him because he is no prize.

I love how he likes to think people are below him and he is better than people. He said the same thing about Nick now JP but I don't know what makes him think that. As if they need his pathetic opinion about them. I actually could care less about Jodi this is my first time coming to their section of their board but that quote about JP made me roll my eyes. Since this is the general discussion and not a fan thread about them why not say what I really thought of Josh's opinion.

^ I guess I personally don't see it any differently than when Catherine and Sean called Juan Pablo out on live television essentially calling him an ass for "biting the hand that fed him" among other things, but that's just my opinion.

I guess for me I just personally don't take any issue with what Josh, Sean or Catherine did. Both incidents can be called dumb, sure, but I thought Juan Pablo acted like an ass during the show, post show, and now on Couples Therapy.

Sean and Catherine are not friends with either JP and Nikki. The '' biting the hand that fed him '' is not even that bad unlike Josh that thinks he is better than Juan and says he does not interact with '' No people whose character I just don’t like.'' His girlfriend' s best friend boyfriend and he says that to a magazine. The same Josh that has not even met Juan and acts holler than everyone. Sorry the is no excuse for his comment and it is not even the first time he said  such a thing. He did it with Nick now Juan acting like his better than both Nick and Juan. What makes him better? That he ''won'' Andi? That his brother plays football? because I cant see what makes him better what makes him say such stuff.

Also if he does not interact with such people with poor characters he must include his fiancée in that equation because Andi didn't behave that great on her bachelorette.

Ash2214 wrote:^ I guess I personally don't see it any differently than when Catherine and Sean called Juan Pablo out on live television essentially calling him an ass for "biting the hand that fed him" among other things, but that's just my opinion.

I guess for me I just personally don't take any issue with what Josh, Sean or Catherine did. Both incidents can be called dumb, sure, but I thought Juan Pablo acted like an ass during the show, post show, and now on Couples Therapy.

Right? You gotta love it..... Josh makes a statement and it's like he kicked a puppy....

StacyNor wrote:Are you really going to compare Sean and Catherine situation with Juan with Josh and Andi's? Sean and Catherine are not friends with either JP and Nikki. The '' biting the hand that fed him '' is not even that bad unlike Josh that thinks he is better than Juan and says he does not interact with '' No people whose character I just don’t like.'' His girlfriend' s best friend boyfriend and he says that to a magazine. The same Josh that has not even met Juan and acts holler than everyone. Sorry the is no excuse for his comment and it is not even the first time he said  such a thing. He did it with Nick now Juan acting like his better than both Nick and Juan. What makes him better? That he ''won'' Andi? That his brother plays football? because I cant see what makes him better what makes him say such stuff.

Also if he does not interact with such people with poor characters he must include his fiancée in that equation because Andi didn't behave that great on her bacherlotte.

Is it really about Josh thinking he's better than everyone? I'm guessing you have people that you dislike as well. People don't always have to like someone. It's life. People have opinions - whether good or bad of people. We're all entitled to that. Josh loves his fiance. I'm not one that will argue with the whole Andi shouldn't have slept with Nick thing. I agree. I certainly wouldn't have done it, but people can decide what they want to do with their bodies and people make mistakes. I don't blame Josh for being upset with Nick. On live television he told millions of people he slept with his fiance. For what reason? Did Nick really think Andi was going to actually answer him? Nick embarrassed her and opened Andi up to a lot of harsh criticism. Again, Andi certainly isn't innocent, but I would see why Josh wasn't happy with what went down. I'm sure the whole Nick trying to see Andi and writing her a love letter asking her to take him back didn't soften Josh's view of Nick. And again, we don't know these people. Maybe Josh had some harsh words to say to Andi about her sleeping with Nick and they worked through it.

Juan Pablo has acted like an utter ass on more than one occasion. The guy deserves any negative criticism that comes his way IMO. I guess I'm ridiculously shocked that people are more angry over Josh saying he doesn't socialize with people like Juan Pablo that have his type of character than about Juan Pablo telling a woman "I don't know you, but I love ******* you" because to me, that is atrocious. To add to that, I'm confused as to why Andi gets so much crap for sleeping with Nick, but yet Juan Pablo gets support even though he slept with two and maybe all three of his F3.  

Trust me, I'm all for agreeing to Josh saying that to a magazine was dumb, but I personally don't get the absolute outrage in regards to his statement. He doesn't like Juan Pablo's character and doesn't want him at his wedding. Goodness gracious.

Ash2214 wrote:

StacyNor wrote:Are you really going to compare Sean and Catherine situation with Juan with Josh and Andi's? Sean and Catherine are not friends with either JP and Nikki. The '' biting the hand that fed him '' is not even that bad unlike Josh that thinks he is better than Juan and says he does not interact with '' No people whose character I just don’t like.'' His girlfriend' s best friend boyfriend and he says that to a magazine. The same Josh that has not even met Juan and acts holler than everyone. Sorry the is no excuse for his comment and it is not even the first time he said  such a thing. He did it with Nick now Juan acting like his better than both Nick and Juan. What makes him better? That he ''won'' Andi? That his brother plays football? because I cant see what makes him better what makes him say such stuff.

Also if he does not interact with such people with poor characters he must include his fiancée in that equation because Andi didn't behave that great on her bacherlotte.

Is it really about Josh thinking he's better than everyone? I'm guessing you have people that you dislike as well. People don't always have to like someone. It's life. People have opinions - whether good or bad of people. We're all entitled to that. Josh loves his fiance. I'm not one that will argue with the whole Andi shouldn't have slept with Nick thing. I agree. I certainly wouldn't have done it, but people can decide what they want to do with their bodies and people make mistakes. I don't blame Josh for being upset with Nick. On live television he told millions of people he slept with his fiance. For what reason? Did Nick really think Andi was going to actually answer him? Nick embarrassed her and opened Andi up to a lot of harsh criticism. Again, Andi certainly isn't innocent, but I would see why Josh wasn't happy with what went down. And again, we don't know these people. Maybe Josh had some harsh words to say to Andi about her sleeping with Nick and they worked through it.

Juan Pablo has acted like an utter ass on more than one occasion. The guy deserves any negative criticism that comes his way IMO. I guess I'm ridiculously shocked that people here are more angry over Josh saying he doesn't socialize with people like Juan Pablo that have his type of character than they were when Juan Pablo told a woman "I don't know you, but I love ******* you" because to me, that is atrocious.  

Trust me, I'm all for agreeing to Josh saying that to a magazine was dumb, but I personally don't get the absolute outrage in regards to his statement. He doesn't like Juan Pablo's character and doesn't want him at his wedding. Goodness gracious.

I have never been a fan of Andi's. Never liked her and I never made a secret of it. I stayed away from her board with Josh because I really thought she was a terrible bachelorlette and never wanted her to get that part but she did and I had to endure seeing her in my screen annoying me again and again. The Nick situation people see it differently. I see a man that gave his all and really loved a woman. He wanted answers begged to see her before the finale Andi declined, Andi being rude towards him and didn't want to give the guy closure. The same guy that said that sex is a big thing to him so sorry I don't feel sorry for a woman that was cold towards Nick and slept with him on her own free will. She decided to sleep with him its not a must to sleep with the final 2 but she did. Sean didn't sleep with none of the girls so really I don't feel sorry for her. You said she made a mistake why is her mistakes excused but not Nick(BTW I understand where he came from}

What I am seeing is excuses. Excuses for Josh. Nick you like him or not has a mother that loves him so very much and he Josh decided to put all the blame on Nick and his poor mom might have watched what that douche said about her son. After the show Nick has been living his life far away from the franchise while you have Josh acting superior and yes I do think he thinks his better than Juan and Nick.

Juan can be an ass but why must he think he has to comment publicly about his fiancée best boyfriend. Why? Its not his place. If Juan said the same thing about Josh I bet to you all you Jodi fans will be here hating om Juan but because its Josh you are excusing him. Being a fan does not mean you have to act blind like I see you guys are doing, not you specifically but Jodi fans here. Someone above me wrote about how Josh made a statement and act like he kicked a puppy but when Nick made a statement were they not acting like Nick kicked a puppy too? When he wanted answers were they not butt hurt too. Its not the first time he said this its the second time in months. Why is he excused because you guys are his fan? We all have opinions but the comes a time to not express them and express them on closed doors not on a magazine where thousands or even millions will read about it. The same thing you are excusing Josh is the same thing you blame Juan for being rude.

I just didn't like his statement. It rubbed me the wrong way, to be honest. I don't know why we must downplay it because its Josh.

^ It has nothing to do with downplaying it because it's Josh. People have opinions and we can freely share them. Most people here, as it's their right, dislike Andi and Josh, so I certainly wouldn't call it downplaying since there are very few that don't take issue with what he said. And like I said, I thought it was dumb, but I certainly don't disagree with his statement and I don't think it's as awful as it's been made out to be here, but people are allowed to have their opinions

Just like there are people that don't have an issue with things Josh or Andi have done, such as sleeping with Nick, there are people that don't take issue with things Juan Pablo has done, such as sleeping with Clare and Nikki and then even possibly Andi on the overnights, but yet dislike Andi because she slept with her F2 guy. It's all subjective and people have opinions. That's life.

^^ We are humans opinions differ I guess and also I don't think people hate Andi for sleeping with F2 but how cold she was to Nick and saying she loved Josh the first time she saw him but she still slept with Nick. Let's not beat a dead horse with the Nick situation I am happy how things turned out. Nick dodged a grenade with Andi. Thank goodness for that.