Re: : Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #8

[eirekay]

I think Nick burned his bridge with regard to being the Bachelor. His exit interview is very candid and raw. I don't think anyone would buy that he is over this in 6 or 8 weeks when the Bachelor starts filming.

[nutty1]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

I do remember her saying that…..I may watch later.

[eirekay]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

Yes, she did, but she has clarified in interviews that what she meant was that she had feelings for him from day 1 but couldn't clarify them as love until the LCD. That contradicts the revelation that she told Josh what kind of ring she wanted, in very precise detail, right down to how many prongs, in the FS.

[Guest]

Yeah, I thought that was really sweet.  Not that Nick brought it up, but that it was how he felt.

Not a role men typically play.

IMO he forced to brought that up. She refused to have a private convo with him on vacation and MTA.  It hit the nail on her -full of herself- head. like Andi said to Bella, he can read her mind. And at a point, he just wanted her to own up her actions and explain to him.

For the life of me, i dont understand why would she need to sleep with him, if she knew she was going to pick Josh and she could (allowed by producers) let Nick go before FRC? . i get that she needed to string him along..but as Nick said, he actually didnt have any 'expectation' that night  :shocked!: . Its just was too classless and unnecessary in my right sense.

Mura, this is the question that i can't wrap my head around.  Why did she sleep with Nick knowing from day one that Josh was the one?  If the FS dates are done in consecutive days, this would mean that she slept with Josh the night before and slept with Nick the following night.  What kind of woman does that?

I really enjoyed your sleuthing and hope you sleuth again next season.  

Like a poster said upthread: its either she knew Josh the one (default or not, who knows..we have sleuthed pre-season's communication between Hy and Lauren after all :shocked!: ) or she was being torn with Josh and Nick all the way. She is being dishonest either way....

aww!..that is so sweet of you Pia!..even though i can honestly say RIP my romantic TV show believe in me. thanks to this season!. I just have to savor Nicholas Spark movies for my all romantic purpose , not this darn show   . If i ever to sleuth an Ette season again, i will do it without my rosie glass on..and be sure to jumping on Kasha's train : Fun Snark for All...  

i know i could never believe this darn show again and i honestly dunno how to sleuth anymore. The blogs, which usuallly indicated the outcome were also turned out to be fake/staged. The VOs, PIs could never be trusted again. Lets be honest, the depth of what she said about Nick vs Josh is like a 1-0 score to me, no brainer. No wonder Nick said it was soo hard for him watching it back again, knowing that he was not delusional!   

i get it that a circle now is complete. Eric called her fake/actress in the very beginning and what she did to Nick in the end emphasize that. Eric's spirit lives in Nick . As some vet posters suggested:  This darn season its already over before its even began..sad (re: Jodi allegedly set-up ending..an X-files we never know..). IMO If thats,the case, the other guys (inc Nick) were totally screwed

i am firm by my analysis that TPTB showed us a LS, and that one is between Nian. Was it TPTB's true "wish" or to throw viewers out of the loop?. remember, TPTB had even took it too far by that Fairy-tale-ish storybook theme, where they showed the montage of N&A....It really was a great disservice to Jodi's -if any- LS. At ATFR they didnt even air Jodi FRC flashback and montage at all!!  :shocked!:. Go figure.... . Someone thru PM saying : I really didn't get a sense that Fleiss and Harrison are all that gaga over Andi to begin with, despite the latter congratulating the happy couple on his blog.maybe thats why..hmmmm......Wonkiest season ever. What a waste. (of the show's story..and my time )

[mercieme]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

I don't need to re-watch, imprinted in my brain cells because it shocked the heck out of me. She said it at the proposal, period. Even one of the magazines had it as their headline today, don't know which one.

[mercieme]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

Yes, she did, but she has clarified in interviews that what she meant was that she had feelings for him from day 1 but couldn't clarify them as love until the LCD.  That contradicts the revelation that she told Josh what kind of ring she wanted, in very precise detail, right down to how many prongs, in the FS.

Molly Mesnick said on the podcast that she supposedly designed that ring  herself and Neil Lane custom made it for her according to sources and Molly was wondering how Neil Lane must have told her fiancé now to pick that ring because it was not shown. Just continues to lead credence that it was her fiancé all along and not Nick IMO and that to me is very painful knowing the love story I saw between Nick and her. I can't even fathom how hurt Nick was last night.

[nutty1]

I just watched this one again. It breaks my heart, yet I am so proud that Nick did what he did. He said he had no expectations the night of the fantasy suite. But what happened meant the world to him. No one can convince me that she didn't know it was Josh at that point.

http://jezebel.com/the-bachelorette-why-did-you-have-sex-with-me-if-you-w-1612477200

It just struck me now, after all season, that she talks to these guys, and even CH, like I imagine her talking in a courtroom.

[stuckinsc]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

Yes, she did, but she has clarified in interviews that what she meant was that she had feelings for him from day 1 but couldn't clarify them as love until the LCD.  That contradicts the revelation that she told Josh what kind of ring she wanted, in very precise detail, right down to how many prongs, in the FS.

Molly Mesnick said on the podcast that she supposedly designed that ring  herself and Neil Lane custom made it for her according to sources and Molly was wondering how Neil Lane must have told her fiancé now to pick that ring because it was not shown. Just continues to lead credence that it was her fiancé all along and not Nick IMO.

No wonder she was more excited for the ring last night than for Josh! I don't think this meant that Josh was necessarily it all along. I do think that NL was told which ring to push on Josh that morning or even earlier.

Now if she designed the stupid thing, then will she please stapp saying that Josh did good? No he did exactly what you laid out for him. Unless he is a dog taking a command, he really had nothing to do with the process. Good job indeed!

[Cecilia]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

I do remember her saying that…..I may watch later.

I just rewatched Nick parts. I'm not re-watching that ridiculous proposal but if I recall correctly she said, "I have loved you since the first time I saw you" or something insincere like that.

[eirekay]

It just struck me now, after all season, that she talks to these guys, and even CH, like I imagine her talking in a courtroom.

When I rewatched Andi letting Nick go, that's exactly how I felt. She came in prepared to defend her stance.

[nutty1]

Will someone stronger than me re-watch the Finale and see if Andi told Josh she's loved him from day 1? Thanks!

Yes, she did, but she has clarified in interviews that what she meant was that she had feelings for him from day 1 but couldn't clarify them as love until the LCD.  That contradicts the revelation that she told Josh what kind of ring she wanted, in very precise detail, right down to how many prongs, in the FS.

That's called backtracking to save face. In other words "Oh, I slept with both of them because I was so torn".

[sdmom]

Thanks for you all who answered my questions! I really don't think I will believe anything that comes out of her mouth anymore...

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