Re: : Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #8

[emad0722]

And Nick's response:
http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/nick_viall_very_sorry_bachelorette_andi_dorfman_humiliated_sex_fantasy_suite_reveal-2014-07

"What I was more surprised about is how she said [she never loved me], and I was more taken aback by how cold she seemed, even from when she first came out," says Viall. "I was more surprised about that."

"I definitely wish I would have had that opportunity in private to have that conversation," says Viall. "I did not go into last night in any way expecting [the sex] to come up or ask her. And again, I think I was just so caught off guard by her demeanor and then that lack of empathy -- to me, it wasn't necessarily about the sex but the level of intimacy about that night and given the situation at the time, we both knew she couldn't say things back and I made it very clear to her where I was in my feelings for her and what something like that meant to me. ... Again, I was more surprised by what seemed to me [how she was] very cavalier about that, and I was so caught off guard and it just kind of came out."

Honestly so were we nick so were we. I gave her too much credit to think she might be caring and empathetic. Obvi not.

[GuardianAngel]

And Nick's response:
http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/nick_viall_very_sorry_bachelorette_andi_dorfman_humiliated_sex_fantasy_suite_reveal-2014-07

It's exactly what we have been saying.  He was taken aback by how cold she was to him.  So was I, Nick.  So. was. I.

I love this guy more every day.

Andi's comments about JPG getting an invite IF he marries Nikki...gag worthy. She is so conceited and full of self. Juan pablo probably wants to say a resounding 'thanks, but no thanks biotch. Seeing you devour a mate is not on my priority list.'

You beat me to it. I was going to say the exact same thing. Or, talk to me when you're at the alter with that ring, then I'll let you know.

[sdmom]

And Nick's response:
http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/nick_viall_very_sorry_bachelorette_andi_dorfman_humiliated_sex_fantasy_suite_reveal-2014-07

It's exactly what we have been saying.  He was taken aback by how cold she was to him.  So was I, Nick.  So. was. I.

Here's the article:
Nick Viall had jaws dropping and social media all a-flutter during "The Bachelorette: After the Final Rose" reunion when he revealed that he and Andi had sex in the fantasy suite. It came up because Andi said she was never in love with Nick and he responded, "If you never loved me, why did you make love with me?"

Viewers were very divided about that statement, with many ( including Josh Murray) calling it a classless move, while others thought Nick raised a good point. We also had to wonder if the tables were turned, gender-wise, would this even be an issue? But either way, Nick tells the press that he was caught off guard at how cold Andi was toward him at the reunion and the sex remark just kind of came out. He had no prior plans to ask her about their intimate night together.

"What I was more surprised about is how she said [she never loved me], and I was more taken aback by how cold she seemed, even from when she first came out," says Viall. "I was more surprised about that."

"She certainly made me feel [like she loved me] and when it was aired, when she ended things in the relationship, I was very surprised and shocked," he continues. "One thing I said to her was there was that moment when I told her I loved her in the ocean and her initial response was to throw her head back in frustration and say, 'I wish I could say things back.' She certainly made me feel very much, when it was all happening, that she did feel that way about me. It wasn't necessarily her answer [during the reunion], because she's in a serious relationship with Josh and she wants to be respectful of that, but I was surprised at just how cold it came across."

Many viewers also wondered if perhaps Nick wouldn't have mentioned the sex had Andi agreed to see him privately before the "After the Final Rose" reunion, which is something Nick says he wishes had happened.

"I definitely wish I would have had that opportunity in private to have that conversation," says Viall. "I did not go into last night in any way expecting [the sex] to come up or ask her. And again, I think I was just so caught off guard by her demeanor and then that lack of empathy -- to me, it wasn't necessarily about the sex but the level of intimacy about that night and given the situation at the time, we both knew she couldn't say things back and I made it very clear to her where I was in my feelings for her and what something like that meant to me. ... Again, I was more surprised by what seemed to me [how she was] very cavalier about that, and I was so caught off guard and it just kind of came out."

"If I have regrets, I didn't want in any way to humiliate her or make her feel that way and I feel very sorry if she did feel that way, that makes me sad," Viall adds. "It is a conversation I wanted to have ... and unfortunately, that was my only opportunity to do that. But it's nothing in a million years I would have planned."

Viall also says he's just "trying to move forward" with his life. He's not sure he'd want to be the next "Bachelor" if asked, but he does say that "anybody would be incredibly flattered to be considered."

The bolded parts are what we have been talking here. I think Nick now realized Andi is not who he thought she was. They are definitely not a good fit.

[sdmom]

And Nick's response:
http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/nick_viall_very_sorry_bachelorette_andi_dorfman_humiliated_sex_fantasy_suite_reveal-2014-07

I can totally buy his side of the story - he was definitely taken aback by her coldness -that much was obvious- which caused him to react the way he did  Interesting that he is not sure if he'd do the Bachelor but would be flattered.  For his sake, I hope he does not since I don't think this show is good for him.  

I think that's a standard answer when being asked. I remember past constants have all said that. Chloep said they are not considering Nick, and I hope so.

[isittrue]

And Nick's response:
http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/nick_viall_very_sorry_bachelorette_andi_dorfman_humiliated_sex_fantasy_suite_reveal-2014-07

I can totally buy his side of the story - he was definitely taken aback by her coldness -that much was obvious- which caused him to react the way he did  Interesting that he is not sure if he'd do the Bachelor but would be flattered.  For his sake, I hope he does not since I don't think this show is good for him.  

I think that's a standard answer when being asked. I remember past constants have all said that. Chloep said they are not considering Nick, and I hope so.

Good. I still am still sad reading this interviews. I realize now that he dodged a big bullet, but I still feel so sad that the love story we were shown was so completely one-sided. Nick had such an expressive face the whole time with her on all their dates, it was so easy to see how much he truly loved her and would have treated her like a queen. I truly hurt for him even though he is in a better place and will find a better person that deserves that type of love.

[Cecilia]

I think he is super romantic and falls hard. Her being cold might help him get over her quicker. Let's hope so. I will say, even though he's going to have girls all over him here, I think it's probably not easy to meet the right one, right after you come off this show! I think it will take awhile.

[Rolly]

^^^This....and to make it worse ABC now has this convo as the featured clip on the bachelorette home page.....happy couple clip to the side.  Wow....thanks ABC....but not surprised..  

She handled Nick just like she handled Eric and it backfired.  Her ADA/mind gaming playing skills didn't work so well on live TV with Nick......darn....I said I wasn't going to talk about her and I'm already doing it!!...   Well that didn't last long.

Total backfire!  I don't think he would have gone there if she had been more honest with him about their relationship.  The dude was HURTING.  He's human.  

Agreed. If she had shown him more empathy, maybe he would not have gone there.

Isn't it odd that this season was supposed to be a tribute to Eric. Maybe the tribute is that Eric was so perceptive in calling Andi out and being so right about her. And the #livelikeeric is just the opposite in what was seen last night.

[philphan]

Total backfire!  I don't think he would have gone there if she had been more honest with him about their relationship.  The dude was HURTING.  He's human.  

Agreed. If she had shown him more empathy, maybe he would not have gone there.

Isn't it odd that this season was supposed to be a tribute to Eric. Maybe the tribute is that Eric was so perceptive in calling Andi out and being so right about her. And the #livelikeeric is just the opposite in what was seen last night.

Rolly.....agree 100%. Eric was a very wise man indeed.

[nutty1]

For sure, Eric saw right through her. Wish Nick did.

[Cecilia]

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/nick-vialls-emotional-letter-to-bachelorette-andi-dorfman-revealed-2014297

Viall's words were revealed, however, when The Bachelorette's official Facebook page posted the message in its entirety. "I was in no way ashamed of what was in that letter," Viall tells Us Weekly, adding about the contents seeing the light of day, "I knew by giving it to her, that was a possibility and I accepted that."

[nutty1]

I said it before, but I love thats its the nick show.

And how about in the few minutes they had with Andi and Josh, that they showed clips of her grimaces?!     

[Cecilia]

^^ The Nick show from beginning to end.

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