Re: : Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #8

[nutty1]

I just watched Jill and Reid's segment on Youtube……now she was a great example of a kind, empathetic lead. Maybe Meandi should have watched it too.

Here it is, in case anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqS0uwEkhU

[stuckinsc]

OK. Here's my statement:
I WAS WRONG ...
My mistake for believing that they changed the tune for Eric's legacy, when I should have know better, that it is all business. My mistake for believing that so powerful words said about Nick meant something. My mistake for believing that Andi & Nick were on the same wave-length, because clearly they are not, because she CLEARLY NEVER GOT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HIM.
That's the last thing I ever write about Andi, the best Bachelorette ever.

I WAS NOT WRONG about Nick and how great of a guy he is.
I'm proud to be on his team, call me a fan if you want, this time I hear no shame in it, because the way I adore this guy, is inconceivable even to me. But I do.
I know that he has a huge heart, that will lead him to something great.
I know that he gives importance and weight to every action and that there is nothing hollow in his words.

So yeah, if he says I Love You, he means it, but most importantly, he shows you, he shows you with all the little things, he shows you by giving you his heart, his mind and his body.
And all three cited are sacred. Too bad, someone doesn't have the same appreciation ... so for that someone, talking about giving own body, mind and heart in the name of love is "below the belt" comment. Well, I think things certainly happen physiologically down the waist, but the best part about sex (we are all grown up here, so let's talk honestly), especially for women, is the activity of the brain and this incredible process that our mind creates that makes us feel things, that even man cannot experience. So when I hear a man put value on a sexual act, not only as an exchange of pleasure, but also as a creation of undeniable spiritual bond, I feel no embarrassment or shame if my feelings about it are the same.

Do I regret watching this season (my first and my last)? Not at all.
I spent some great time here with you, and although by my own choice I didn't really reach out to anyone for some closer friendship, I hope with more time on our hands you will be willing to "talk to me" even if not related to this show.
I've learned some new lessons and tricks and most importantly I've learned to trust my own gut. Oh yes, I've learned that thanks to Nick.

Nick if you (or anyone close to you can pass you the message) ever read:
know that by opening your "heart" to Andi, you opened your heart to all of us. To US, who were/are willing to perceive, accept, understand, cherish and admire. Unfortunately with more exposure and more love (and fans) comes also an increase in dislike (for not using too negative word on this thread) ... but no need to think and worry about that (them). Go your own way, walk your own path and it would be only an honor is any of ours crosses yours.
You definitely received some hard lesson and I know it's tough, when you are always on the receiving end ... only not that kind of receiving as you would like it to be. But the fact that you are open and genuinely giving ... I'm sure it won't be too long before the new adventure challenges your excited mind.

I will keep my thoughts about the plane video for myself, because that chapter is over, the same goes for the not-so-amazing scripted video for ATFR. I'm sure if you would write that letter completely by yourself it would sound just the same, but forgive me for not buying any of it ... and that reminds me to say:
THANK YOU ... for giving us a shout out and FORGIVE US for not hearing it.
I hope our/mine comments on this forum, if anyone from your circle read, didn't contribute to a prolonged illusion that the love you felt was IT. But I'm sure you already got "sober up" about the situation in the LALA land.

To conclude (for now) ...
it was a pleasure getting to know Nick through the screen, learning about myself through him, finding new possibilities of trust and faith that I haven't thought to possess, because of Eric and his legacy, because of Nick and his GO BIG quote, because of Nick and his unapologetic self ... and gosh, I thank to everyone here who contributed for me loosing some of my deepest fears ... and I didn't even need to go through the heartbreak ... it was enough watching Nick have his own ... so yeah ... Nick ... you matter!

I am happy to still be Team Nick or a Nick Chick. I refuse to be team salty anymore. Andi doesn't deserve to nickname our guy.

And, I am sorry, but I believe that Andi and Josh did know each other before this and it makes me disrespect them both. Nick you are better off without this woman. I no longer hope Nick and Josh become friends either.

[stuckinsc]

I could be totally wrong, but they spent more time on Nick's heartbreak, than they did Andi and Josh.  They went and filmed him in Milwaukee.  CH, and TPTB are supporting Nick.  His father was just on TV, talking about that he will find his "true love."  This is all a set up, IMO.

I don't know that I want him as the lead. I don't want them to hurt or embarrass him anymore.

[GuardianAngel]

I could be totally wrong, but they spent more time on Nick's heartbreak, than they did Andi and Josh.  They went and filmed him in Milwaukee.  CH, and TPTB are supporting Nick.  His father was just on TV, talking about that he will find his "true love."  This is all a set up, IMO.

I was thinking that earlier as well, when I noticed how much time they were spending on that whole segment. I didn't know his father was on TV.

[Guest]

OMG!!! I'd give ANYTHING to be at the Murray finale party now!!!!!!

ha!

  Nice start in the family ...  

[rosesrREd]

I could be totally wrong, but they spent more time on Nick's heartbreak, than they did Andi and Josh.  They went and filmed him in Milwaukee.  CH, and TPTB are supporting Nick.  His father was just on TV, talking about that he will find his "true love."  This is all a set up, IMO.

I was thinking that earlier as well, when I noticed how much time they were spending on that whole segment. I didn't know his father was on TV.

He was on the local Milwaukee station talking about it. Also, said "now he knows how deep he can love." Total setup, otherwise they would have announced Chris as the next Bachelor tonight, like they did with Juan Pablo on Des' ATFR.

[isittrue]

I could be totally wrong, but they spent more time on Nick's heartbreak, than they did Andi and Josh.  They went and filmed him in Milwaukee.  CH, and TPTB are supporting Nick.  His father was just on TV, talking about that he will find his "true love."  This is all a set up, IMO.

I don't know that I want him as the lead.  I don't want them to hurt or embarrass him anymore.

I go back and forth whether Nick would do the show. I wonder why they chose to feature the letter on facebook? That along with the beefcake pics and SM postings make me wonder but I'm with Stukinsc in that I don't want him doing a show that will probably lead to more embarrassment. I cringed so much for how they were portraying him as being so naïve with her leading him on during the finale, I don't want him to have to do their bidding and do the same to someone else although I do think he would be kinder than MeAndi ever was.

[nutty1]

I also thought that at first, that maybe they are considering him for the next lead. I never saw them spend so little time with the new couple. They didn't even show their proposal like they always do. But I know his dad was on the news, saying they weren't happy with how Nick was portrayed. I don't think TPTB would consider him. And I truly believe he is better off on his own. Nick is finally FREE….and will do just fine. I hope he realizes he has many fans who saw through the edit and saw who the real Nick was.

[stuckinsc]

I could be totally wrong, but they spent more time on Nick's heartbreak, than they did Andi and Josh.  They went and filmed him in Milwaukee.  CH, and TPTB are supporting Nick.  His father was just on TV, talking about that he will find his "true love."  This is all a set up, IMO.

I don't know that I want him as the lead.  I don't want them to hurt or embarrass him anymore.

I go back and forth whether Nick would do the show.  I wonder why they chose to feature the letter on facebook?  That along with the beefcake pics and SM postings make me wonder but I'm with Stukinsc in that I don't want him doing a show that will probably lead to more embarrassment.  I cringed so much for how they were portraying him as being so naïve with her leading him on during the finale, I don't want him to have to do their bidding and do the same to someone else although I do think he would be kinder than MeAndi ever was.

I think he has a much bigger heart than MeAndI. I may not be a fan anymore, but I actually thought Sean handled the situation with grace. I haven't liked his actions since the show, but I admired him while he did it.

[mercieme]

I am curious as to why Elan has not posted any pics yet of the couple and runner-up. He seems to always do, even posted pics of Nikki, Juan Pab last year. Any ideas?

[emad0722]

for reals he saw her in a bar??? ughhhh the set ups this season were astronomical!!! good luck to them.

as much as our boy is hurting right now he is going to take lessons from this and move forward. I hope he becomes a stronger man knows the value and worth of true love. some girl will be blessed to be loved by him.

[stuckinsc]

I am curious as to why Elan has not posted any pics yet of the couple  and runner-up. He seems to always do, even posted pics of Nikki, Juan Pab last year. Any ideas?

Maybe he is disgusted with MeAndI too?

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