Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #7

[Kashathediva]

TBH I am not really looking forward to watching tomorrow.  I have been a little melancholy all day although I had prepared myself for him being F2.   I really did enjoy watching Nick this season and  wish him the best.  He seems to be doing well now so it is all good.

If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. There are reasons for everything and usually they end up being happy. 
2 yrs ago, people were going cray-cray on this site regarding a couple that fell apart by the seams within weeks---they were so in love with each other according to half the board.   
Well, the female of that couple is now happily married to a nice guy. She appears to be in heaven.

Last year this board was in an uproar when the F3 ended up leaving. How could she possibly be in love with someone else? A year later that other couple is very happy and still together. IRL. Not on a silly reality tv show. 

I am sure Nick will end up very happy and most likely very much better off.

[umngirl]

Here's the picture I was talking about. Two different people uploaded the same one.

[SueSt]

Feel free to put this in the clues thread, if you feel so moved. Still Team Nick.
Things I've noted: In the opening scenes getting ready to introduce the men -- Nick in second group of men getting in limo shots. He is hidden at first, camera cuts away before you see him, shadowy him about to get in limo - Andi says 25 men to find what I'm looking for

she says she really believes her - great love - (two words seem to be dubbed) is somewhere waiting in that group of men - he's in the group that is next shown toasting "to Andi" - Nick again hidden (this time by the drink he is toasting)

Andi says (voiceover) as she is coming out of mansion in greeting gown. I feel so lucky. I'm about to meet my husband.
Somebody says I'm excited to finally meet her. Chris is shown, then Nick (yes, looking excited, eyebrows  go up) You hear him say, but don't see it. "She's gotta be nervous, like us". The next thing Andi's telling Chris H. she's so excited, but so nervous. Mind-reader? Ha-ha. No Josh shown in the first limo or group of men walking scenes

Interesting...Marquel is in the first limo (he was part of first group shown
walking, getting in Limo that Nick was in). Nick is shown later, after lamp guy, I think.
She clearly digs polka dot tie, way he wore a suit. Nick front and center at toast
after rose ceremony, clearly not as skeptical, right? Josh by him.
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ABC commercial? bachelorette promo  - flash of shots - noticed bird man shots twice, vo my life is about to change, her walking in masquerade gown, Josh talking about how natural, how great it is when he's with her over her kissing Nick in Venice, then shot of Josh and her dancing, he tells her she makes him happy, then Nick voiceover? I can totally see myself growing old with her over her sledding with Eric. (just a thought. tbt reference to Sean and Catherine in the snow? When she said she could see him as an old man?)

Andi's VO there are things that I felt that I didn't even know were possible over her kissing Chris. Then closeup of Nick saying he is 100% crazy about her. Andi vo during fireworks kiss he sees every part of me, there is that connection I cannot even deny over her and Josh close up kiss. Nick and her at Venice again him telling her that once you have something special you are afraid you are going to lose it.

You hear Nick say she's my girl, then they show him telling the guys I am not interested in your dates.

May 1st abc promo - focus on nick shots first date - things we didn't see...but were told about.
her first time in helicopter Eric's date, then later she's excited on Nick's first time in a helicopter
On Chris' date Andi talks about love for a lifetime - she later says level of passion with Nick is once in a lifetime (at least twice).
During Chris' date, Andi talks about liking people who are sweet and genuine. Said that about Nick in first ITM after First Impression Rose.
Also during Chris' date she talks about it takes gut to break off an engagement when it is just not right. (maybe a voiceover).
Andi also talks during that date about not just good, but great. (theme of great love - later discussed by Andi and Nick).
My opinion - if the feelings of love had been there with Chris, it might have been him and Nick at the end. They did seem on the same page early on and I think she really liked Chris, (another reference to them both looking for great love - not just good, not settling for just
good, and she said she was so happy right now) but again my opinion - here comes Nick! game over.
Date night card at second cocktail party. discussion about perfect connection, both wanting good, not great. What has she talked about regarding him the whole season? Their great connection. Sitting by him and J.J. (another guy I felt she was really leaning  toward) when
Chris came to get her for the rose ceremony. Nick V. had a polka dot handkerchief that ceremony. Remember polka dot cup and dress of Andi when little with polka dots. Coincidence or clues??? She kissed Josh first, but had a whole day and good night date with our Nick. positive thinking...
Description of Nick during their first one-on-one, they don't say again the rest of the season, it seems that she talks about the connection and passion instead - she feels giddy, romantic, that spark with their kissing. Skeptic Nick, but still ecstatic about going on his first one-on-one. "Normal" date, so she can get to know him. Guys already jealous. One of ABC's TV promos talk about 3 little words. Jea-lou-sy. The marriage talk on their date. Discussion of possibility of falling in love with the idea of someone, not them. (recognition of the dangers of the bubble) He will recognize real love because he felt he has had it.

Andi starts seeing that connection - 100% potential. Talks about their having so much in common. She wants to turn him (the skeptic) into a believer by developing real feelings for him. Challenge? Note: no like challenge with Josh. He's already declared her "his" by the second cocktail party.

Discussion after mime date - Andi ITM talks about he sees who she is, and the mental/emotional connection off the charts. Andi tells him
he's causing a ruckus in her mind. During the surprise one-on-one (Venice) Andi discusses being heartbroken by Nick if he turns out not to be who she thought. Real feelings IMO. (You can't be heartbroken by someone you don't care about. Voiceover during masquerade hall date. Nick ITM is falling in love. Rose would validate those feelings.

Andi voiceover "Nick looks amazing. In his tux, he looks like a Prince."  (VO) Date in Venice with Nick has been amazing. Never did I think we would be in the 6th week and he would be saying he's falling in love with me. Feels good to hear it (slight emphasis I hear) from Nick. She doesn't want it to end. If I end up with Nick, I could look back on this date and say Ok, Venice is where I think I fell in love with him. Makes me very hopeful for the future. Clearly liked him stealing her away at the next cocktail party. That is a man. Very expressive about that, and the fact he couldn't wait to kiss her. The sneak over in Brussels. Yes, totally set up. His reason? Going into hometowns - he needed to know where she was at.

He's been persistent all his life, especially when something is important to him. She squeals with him. A sign she is excited and falling, too. Regardless of the date she just came off of, and the one she would be going on "tomorrow.

4 on 1 date, winner gets hometown for sure and a private date. No contest. Nick wins. Chris is a close? second, I think.

Chris seems to be her "Sean" (per Emily's season) Passion not there, but everything else fits.

We all saw Andi hug and keep holding on to Nick and squealing at the start of FS date. Girlfriend kept nudging him with her knee the entire time they talked until the reading of the storybook, then switched to massaging his leg. I totally see her besotted with him at this point. When she says "I love hearing that" to his quiet declaration of "I love you, Andi" it is barely breathed on the way to the "kiss". But that smile before, and the ITM immediately confirming that happiness on hearing it (which we did not get with Josh - that I can remember) was so telling to me. What conflicts are left? He's out of the house with the other guys, she's seen him interact positively with close friends and how he is in real life (as opposed to the bubble where the guys were probably encouraged to be jealous of him), got a green light from the family (which she voiced). Hy? Edit, edit, edit and voiceovers to make it seem Hy is intimidating him - a new problem. Are we to believe Josh (who has had way less time) can match Nick in the "great love" department? I don't see it. His "romantic" gift is sports-oriented.

Great summary, Mimi; thanks for putting this together.
Vs. Josh's baseball card - Nick's gift is soooo romantic and meaningful (his words) and links the past to their future -
Vs. Josh' ILY on his FD - she smiles and touches Josh's arm; nothing half as intimate as the kisses she shares with Nick or the smiling PI (you noted) which comes after.
The editing for the preview is there to create doubt - but we'll see tomorrow.... this is no contest!!   
I mean.... the girl is dunzo  :WAVEY:  (Hi Mura!!)

[nutty1]

Thanks umngirl….Nick's eyes look quite creepy!!!  :shocked!: 

[torybean]

I don't want GOOD.......I want GREAT.....LOVE!!!......Epi 2 convo between Nick & Andi.

  

Looking forward to FRC/AFTR....it's going to be GREAT!!!!!

[stuckinsc]

Thanks umngirl….Nick's eyes look quite creepy!!!  :shocked!: 

They all do, something in the spirits that night?   

[notarose]

I don't want GOOD.......I want GREAT.....LOVE!!!......Epi 2 convo between Nick & Andi.

  

Looking forward to FRC/AFTR....it's going to be GREAT!!!!!

  

[SueSt]

I don't want GOOD.......I want GREAT.....LOVE!!!......Epi 2 convo between Nick & Andi.

  

Looking forward to FRC/AFTR....it's going to be GREAT!!!!!

Yes, Tory, it's going to be great. Can't wait!! 
        

[rosesrREd]

I don't want GOOD.......I want GREAT.....LOVE!!!......Epi 2 convo between Nick & Andi.

  

Looking forward to FRC/AFTR....it's going to be GREAT!!!!!

I see you have Nick's IG picture as you avi. That is a really good picture. What are your thoughts of his many IGs the past 2 days?

[torybean]

:WAVEY: Notarose........meant to respond to your post earlier today before the thread was closed re: the background on my avatar.

Agree that it could be SB at the location of their first date.....so romantic     Thanks for pointing that out.   

If so, can't wait to see the entire spread!!!

[GuardianAngel]

Here's the picture I was talking about. Two different people uploaded the same one.

Thanks umngirl!

Everyone's eyes looks strange. It's just the way the picture turned out. Looks like they all had fun!

[FLChica]

TBH I am not really looking forward to watching tomorrow.  I have been a little melancholy all day although I had prepared myself for him being F2.   I really did enjoy watching Nick this season and  wish him the best.  He seems to be doing well now so it is all good.

If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. There are reasons for everything and usually they end up being happy. 
2 yrs ago, people were going cray-cray on this site regarding a couple that fell apart by the seams within weeks---they were so in love with each other according to half the board.   
Well, the female of that couple is now happily married to a nice guy. She appears to be in heaven.

Last year this board was in an uproar when the F3 ended up leaving. How could she possibly be in love with someone else? A year later that other couple is very happy and still together. IRL. Not on a silly reality tv show. 

I am sure Nick will end up very happy and most likely very much better off.

Once again you are the voice of reason!  I can't envision Nick being truly happy with MeAndi outside of the Bachelor bubble in the real world.  While MeAndi has qualities that were attractive to Nick, there are several not quite so attractive things about her as well.  When the sting of rejection passes, Nick will be just fine and probably better for the experience.

Cheers to Nick for remaining true to himself throughout this process and cheers to all of the lovely Nick fans for supporting him.

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