Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #6

by happygolucky Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:27 pm

nutty1 wrote:Nick's gift wins, hands down!!!

and sure ... what a gift ... from FS to LCD overnight ... I might imagine giggling

by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:32 pm

happygolucky wrote:Karma ... I don't ask permission of ABC when I watch free-streamed version of the show overseas, so please If I can make some other avatar for you, ask, but unfortunately I can only use the videos on YT and FB (where quality isn't that good) but I can't download them (have problems with my PC).

THANK YOU Happy!!!

by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:37 pm

in a foiler-ish season, editing &storyboarding play a very crucial part IMO.i tend to think there is a trade-off between foiler and a LS unfold comprehensively. The more smoking gun the foilers the merrier the Wuv Story....thus i said numerous times...hard to complain! giggling

. When you are convinced there are foilers scheme being orchestrated you just ignore the opponent 'clues' (obviously, since those all part of the scheme) . But that is just my approach. and it worked on Des's season. Hopefully second time is the charm for me! Praying

i think Monica or other Brooks's fans know best the SM clues with him. I do know Des's mom following Brooks and Brooks's sis was following Des :shocked!: . SCMIIW. I was too busy 'decoding' my Prince's subtle clues back then..and i found myself getting more :crazed

in decoding Nick's very clever, very though provoking, mind-games-ish clues this season.. laugh out loud

... I assume the spoiled F2 (who is the actual F1) needs to express his existance/relevance as the F1 in very subtle ways as possible...for not leaking the ending. Smiley

There is an analogy of Brooks on cruise and JOsh in Cancun, IMO. I too think he will get the gig. A curve ball ending on the Ette for him but also a curve ball for next love quest opportunity (not Chris, as all have assumed all along, the term Curve Ball brought up by CH). All is good in Fleissian Universe. As long as we can minimize the impact of the explosive ending... Hugesmile

by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:38 pm

MVMom39forever wrote:
KarmaGirl wrote:
nutty1 wrote:The part that gets me every time is Nick saying every chance she got, she reassured me.

I agree, Nutty! Also, the following from Nick: “I feel Andi falling in love with me, it is not even that I think it, I feel it. The way we look at each other, it is hard for us to keep our hands off each other. At the same time, it is very easy for us to talk . . .about anything. I love this girl. . . . . . I think Andi is my other half.”

TRUE LOVE! :cutesmile!:

Love your new Avi!

I think we need to freshen up the CLUES thread and will add Nick's words. Thanks for reminding us what a catch he is.

Good idea MVMom! I think almost everything Nick says that is from his heart, reads as though it is straight out of some great romantic novel . . .Bridges of Madison County . . . or The Notebook . . . he just takes my breath away. I think it is because he really wants to put words and meaning to his emotions, and he expresses the ways in which he loves Andi with such tender and sincere words. It is enough to sweep me off my feet, and I'm only on the outside looking in. What a guy our Nick is! Technically, only three more days until an epic, romantic, passionate finale! :cutesmile!:

by MonicaJM2001 Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:40 pm

Nick's gift just makes me adore him even more.

by nutty1 Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:48 pm

nutty1 wrote:
torybean wrote:
happygolucky wrote:

Final preview - facebook

Love what the editors did here.....

Did they do anything like this during Des's season? Does anyone specifically remember? How about other seasons?

I had a long day, so I am quoting myself (sorry!)....but does anyone know the answer to the bolded?

by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:54 pm

MonicaJM2001 wrote:Nick's gift just makes me adore him even more.

Me too, Monica, because it is about them, it is part of their love story.

Josh's gift is nice too, but it is the tired storyline of a baseball career that is so far in the past, and Andi had no part of his life back then.

The sand in the bottle is a memory made between Nick and Andi, just them together. So, my personal preference (and Lord knows I'm biased on this point!) is that Nick's gift is much more meaningful. (Color me polka dotted and dip me in red wine please!)

by nutty1 Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:55 pm

What do you guys make of the crying in the room? I do think it is nick's room.

by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:56 pm

I see that some are mentioning a gift from Nick. Have we uncovered a new gift today besides the storybook?

by MonicaJM2001 Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:56 pm

murasaki1393 wrote:
KarmaGirl wrote:
Beagle wrote:

Mura, I would love to believe Nick is F1, but I do look at clues from the other team, its the only way I could come up with my conclusions. Truth is we get little crumbs while the other side is having a feast, there is just so much. I was hoping against hope that Nick would be on his way to LA before Josh, but its not going to happen. We could have a ton of excuses of why he is not on a plane to LA, but if Josh is F2, why is he already in LA?

In Des season, I didn't follow too closely, but I remember there were clues like Brooks going on a cruise by himself during the airing of the show. There wasn't a plane video or snapchat account. Im not sure about the family involvement because I didn't follow any on twitter. Did Des favorite tweets from fans that didn't like Chris, or tweets from fans saying Brooks was the perfect one for her? Im curious.

My opinion is that it doesn't matter when they go to LA, they all have work schedules to deal with. Perhaps Josh is doing some promo for The Bachelor, because I think he is the next Bachelor for sure. (IMO) I don't believe the video is a real "gotcha" as I think it was staged, and I don't know what to make of the snap chat account because I don't know if that was real either, I've never seen anything about it, just heard rumors about it. I can tell you that the only thing that bothers me, being a Nick fan is that Andi's dad follows Josh's Mom on twitter - that is odd to me if there isn't a relationship going there, why doesn't he follow Nick's family (some of us do!) Or perhaps he followed her pre-Bachelorette season and didn't want to be rude and unfollow her. That is the single nugget that gives me some doubts on my fantasy ending. Anyhoo - there are a lot of SM things that are unexplained, and I understand why you are confused. IF you look only at the love story, I think Nick wins hands down, not only in what happened, but how the producers want the love story told. Just watch the segment where Nick gives Andi the storybook and reads it to her, and how they splice the real life love story in to that segment. We are close to the finish line, why would the producers put so much effort in to showing this beautiful love story just to have it end? It is all the outside SM noise that makes it a true mystery, the love story that is shown on TV is all Andi and Nick. (I realize others see this differently!) Thanks for talking to us about this!!

all i can is just offering my 2 cents and my experience. ITA with KG...

in a foiler-ish season, editing &storyboarding play a very crucial part IMO.i tend to think there is a trade-off between foiler and a LS unfold comprehensively. The more smoking gun the foilers the merrier the Wuv Story....thus i said numerous times...hard to complain! . When you are convinced there are foilers scheme being orchestrated you just ignore the opponent 'clues' (obviously, since those all part of the scheme) . But that is just my approach. and it worked on Des's season. Hopefully second time is the charm for me!

i think Monica or other Brooks's fans know best the SM clues with him. I do know Des's mom following Brooks and Brooks's sis was following Des :shocked!: . SCMIIW. I was too busy 'decoding' my Prince's subtle clues back then..and i found myself getting more in decoding Nick's very clever, very though provoking, mind-games-ish clues this season..... I assume the spoiled F2 (who is the actual F1) needs to express his existance/relevance as the F1 in very subtle ways as possible...for not leaking the ending.

There is an analogy of Brooks on cruise and JOsh in Cancun, IMO. I too think he will get the gig. A curve ball ending on the Ette for him but also a curve ball for next love quest opportunity (not Chris, as all have assumed all along, the term Curve Ball brought up by CH). All is good in Fleissian Universe. As long as we can minimize the impact of the explosive ending...

Just to name a few:
Brooks also followed Des the whole season while no other contestants did.
Des mom was fangirling all over Bres Brooks and Des constantly appeared offline at similar times
Brooks was seen in many airports around the weekends during the airing of the show-
heck a girl on twitter even swore she saw Brooks/Des on a beach in Florida and this was during a time there was proof of Brooks actually being in Florida.

Again it is always easier to say "see another clue!" when your person is the spoiled F1. Alas last year I learned the hard way so if people read my posts here and think I am just being stubborn or delusional about this season, please understand last season I was that other side (team spoiled F1-not to be on the bandwagon but because I genuinely love Brooks) and I was certain with everything that showed that it would be Brooks. When the 1000% RS spoilers and all the other for certain clues ended up WRONG I learned my lesson never to take this stuff at face value again. Watching this season, Nick is the winner whether the girl is smart/brave enough to pull the trigger or not ( I think she will be) but if she isn't Nick still wins. This whole season has been revolving around him and his relationship with Andi. The host of the show has already repeatedly labeled Nick as the one Andi aspires to be with and the change she WANTS to make while Josh is just the old comfortable route that is nice for a bit and then falls apart. That is definitely no ringing endorsement if this is indeed the final couple at the end. Inadvertent or not, CH basically implies Andi picking Josh as a cop out.

by happygolucky Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:59 pm

Nutty, I personally also believe it's the same room of 2 different scenes from the preview, but I don't know if it is Nick's room and I prefer not to speculate anymore what it is all about, because I have no energy, I prefer to get my surprise ... preferably good one.

“When you reach the end of what you should know, you will be at the beginning of what you should sense.”
― Khalil Gibran, Sand and Foam