Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #5

[Guest]

On a completely different note, the ABC epi synopsis of Nick ends in a faith reference: "carry him to the altar". In Catholicism, this is a reference to "carry to the altar" which is the sacred rite of communion which is preceeded by the "gifts".

At first glance it might seem odd to speak of "passion" in the same paragraph as "carry him to the altar" however it depends on one's view of passion and it's role in a relationship.

This is so interesting, thank you for telling us this! Do you remember one of Nick's first tweets after this big adventure was something about spending time at a Catholic church? You sleuthers are amazing.

[Guest]

Throwing my hat in the ring about the tears, what if it is Andi talking to CHon one of the many couches this resort has (all looking similar)? She is upset because she is going to have to let Josh go and just feels very bad about it, because she knows he will be blindsided. I remember Emily crying the ugly cry, talking to CH about her final decision and needing to let Arie go, and actually many of the leads crying as they talk to him. Possibility? Then she leaves and lets Josh go. Maybe?

I think CH saying that they may throw us a curve ball as to who is next Bachelor definitely means Josh is next bachelor.

[notarose]

On a completely different note, the ABC epi synopsis of Nick ends in a faith reference: "carry him to the altar". In Catholicism, this is a reference to "carry to the altar" which is the sacred rite of communion which is preceeded by the "gifts".

At first glance it might seem odd to speak of "passion" in the same paragraph as "carry him to the altar" however it depends on one's view of passion and it's role in a relationship.

This is so interesting, thank you for telling us this!  Do you remember one of Nick's first tweets after this big adventure was something about spending time at a Catholic church?  You sleuthers are amazing.  

Yes, his first tweet after returning was a retweet from Anna Robinson (May 23) who is a super fan.  She is also a "challenged" individual who seems to ask her fav participants every season to follow her.
His second:
@viallnicholas28
Loved seeing a gospel choir at catholic mass today
12:07pm - 25 May 14

In whatever threads a fair amount of time ago it was confirmed that Nick attended church in Connecticut (Brian tweeted about it) and Venice (a producer posted a pic of him kneeling alone -far shot from behind) and one another place as well but I forget.  

I can see that Marquel and Nick may have shared a similar faith code.  Marquel did recently say that he refused to strip down during the strip charity date.  It isn't a stretch to think that Nick would have done likewise.  It's much different to be shirtless at the beach and even to makeup out with a woman you are falling in love with vs faking being a stripper for charity or fake kissing because it makes good tv.

[torybean]

Throwing my hat in the ring about the tears, what if it is Andi talking to CHon one of the many couches this resort has (all looking similar)?  She is upset because she is going to have to let Josh go and just feels very bad about it, because she knows he will be blindsided.  I remember Emily crying the ugly cry, talking to CH about her final decision and needing to let Arie go, and actually many of the leads crying as they talk to him.  Possibility?  Then she leaves and lets Josh go.  Maybe?

I think CH saying that they may throw us a curve ball as to who is next Bachelor definitely means Josh is next bachelor.

Ha! Karma.....I was just in the screencaps thread thinking the same thing! (Re:talking to CH). Based on floor plans the room where the couch crying is taking place matches a floor plan of one of the large suites. Most we're assuming this was Nick's room. However, it could very well be CH. Thanks for confirmation that I'm not too crazy.... Great thoughts! Back to sleuthing.........

[notarose]

Throwing my hat in the ring about the tears, what if it is Andi talking to CHon one of the many couches this resort has (all looking similar)?  She is upset because she is going to have to let Josh go and just feels very bad about it, because she knows he will be blindsided.  I remember Emily crying the ugly cry, talking to CH about her final decision and needing to let Arie go, and actually many of the leads crying as they talk to him.  Possibility?  Then she leaves and lets Josh go.  Maybe?

I think CH saying that they may throw us a curve ball as to who is next Bachelor definitely means Josh is next bachelor.

Ha! Karma.....I was just in the screencaps thread thinking the same thing! (Re:talking to CH).  Based on floor plans the room where the couch crying is taking place matches a floor plan of one of the large suites. Most we're assuming this was Nick's room. However, it could very well be CH. Thanks for confirmation that I'm not too crazy.... Great thoughts!  Back to sleuthing.........

It could also be with her parents or sister. In epi 1, Andi was teary with her sister who came to visit her to help pick out her m&g dress.

[rosesrREd]

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I think CH saying that they may throw us a curve ball as to who is next Bachelor definitely means Josh is next bachelor.

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Ha! Karma.....I was just in the screencaps thread thinking the same thing! (Re:talking to CH).  Based on floor plans the room where the couch crying is taking place matches a floor plan of one of the large suites. Most we're assuming this was Nick's room. However, it could very well be CH. Thanks for confirmation that I'm not too crazy.... Great thoughts!  Back to sleuthing.........[/quote]

  In past season when letting the F2 go before the FRC, the lead has always sat down and talked to CH prior, so this is totally plausible.

Going back to the pictures of Andi crying. She is walking around outside the resort where the guys are staying, standing out on the beach, crying in the car. Her actions aren't that of someone that has made up her mind, rather someone who is conflicted

[Beagle]

Throwing my hat in the ring about the tears, what if it is Andi talking to CHon one of the many couches this resort has (all looking similar)?  She is upset because she is going to have to let Josh go and just feels very bad about it, because she knows he will be blindsided.  I remember Emily crying the ugly cry, talking to CH about her final decision and needing to let Arie go, and actually many of the leads crying as they talk to him.  Possibility?  Then she leaves and lets Josh go.  Maybe?

I think CH saying that they may throw us a curve ball as to who is next Bachelor definitely means Josh is next bachelor.

Hi Karma, can you tell me when and where CH said this? I find that interesting.

[notarose]

About the crying in the preview:


There would be lots of reasons to be conflicted. The only one I don't buy is that she doesn't already know who she is going to choose.

What makes more sense to me is that she is emotional because the scenes before getting into the car and while in the car are connected to letting someone go early.

She broke down when letting Chris go at FS.  I didn't sense any regret on her part, it was just emotional because she's likely getting very tired and because Chris is a fine guy, just not her guy.   She has been following whatever her criteria is - in Chris's case she said they didn't have the foundation she was looking for.

My guess is this preview crying could be similar... preparing to or already having let someone go before the RC.  No conflict - just time to do it.

[Guest]

Throwing my hat in the ring about the tears, what if it is Andi talking to CHon one of the many couches this resort has (all looking similar)?  She is upset because she is going to have to let Josh go and just feels very bad about it, because she knows he will be blindsided.  I remember Emily crying the ugly cry, talking to CH about her final decision and needing to let Arie go, and actually many of the leads crying as they talk to him.  Possibility?  Then she leaves and lets Josh go.  Maybe?

I think CH saying that they may throw us a curve ball as to who is next Bachelor definitely means Josh is next bachelor.

Hi Karma, can you tell me when and where CH said this? I find that interesting.

Sure, here is one place but I don't know how reliable any of this is. It seems as though he is referring to throwing a curve ball interpreted to be not someone we would expect? Just wondering about the baseball theme. Probably far fetched. ;)

http://www.hngn.com/articles/35018/20140701/bachelorette-2014-spoilers-chris-harrison-hints-next-bachelor-andi-dorfman.htm

[Guest]

Listen to what CH has to say here. Thoughts? http://www.extratv.com/2014/07/21/who-will-the-bachelorette-choose-andi-dorfman-dishes-on-the-finale-pregnancy-rumors/

[Georgia Lindsay]

The rumor growing legs is that they are seriously considering Arie for the bachelor. That would be the 'curve ball'. Has nothing to do with Josh.

[Guest]

Thanks Georgia! Where did you read that? Makes sense after what Courtney said about Arie.   

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