Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Media Thread - Fan Forum - Discussion Thread #3

[Ash2214]

I can put this in the Facebook/Twitter thread too if needed, but since we're on topic of the letter I figured I'd post it here. In regards to the letter, I thought it was interesting that Lauren Murray favorited this tweet by a friend of Josh's:

Christian Robinson @crob45 · Jul 21
Nothing's more scary than adding horror music to folded notebook paper. #Bachelorette

This could mean absolutely nothing, but who knows, it might very well be a letter from Josh. I don't know, but for me, whatever the letter is, it seems like to me that Lauren Murray might know what it's about - one way or another. I just think the previews are hyping it up.

[2observe]

I'm in a "wait and see" mode because there's a few things I haven't reconciled yet. One of the things has to do with the airplane video and what Nick said about Josh won't say sh#t. What happened at the FRC that would require Josh to say something in the presence of Nick???

[atem]

There is a FRC so I doubt Nick would know anything.

[Ash2214]

I'm in a "wait and see" mode because there's a few things I haven't reconciled yet.  One of the things has to do with the airplane video and what Nick said about Josh won't say sh#t.  What happened at the FRC that would require Josh to say something in the presence of Nick???  

I'm a bit confused. In the plane video when Nick said, "Josh won't say sh!t" he was referring to Josh's relationship with Andi. He goes on further to say that Josh would let Andi walk all over him essentially.

[2observe]

I'm in a "wait and see" mode because there's a few things I haven't reconciled yet.  One of the things has to do with the airplane video and what Nick said about Josh won't say sh#t.  What happened at the FRC that would require Josh to say something in the presence of Nick???  

I'm a bit confused. In the plane video when Nick said, "Josh won't say sh!t" he was referring to Josh's relationship with Andi. He goes on further to say that Josh would let Andi walk all over him essentially.

But Nick would not know what went on in Josh's relationship with Andi. Nick's conversation is just confusing to me.

[Ash2214]

^ Yes, I'm not sure how Nick would know what their relationship was like. I'm assuming he was obviously hurt so he was lashing out on Josh. He was upset she didn't pick him and I'm guessing he knew she picked Josh so he was essentially saying in comparison to Andi's relationship with Josh, her relationship with Nick would have been different. I don't think there's anything specific behind it other than a guy being hurt and needing to get feelings off of his chest, whether they're true or not. We've seen a couple of times during the season where Josh didn't let Andi walk all over him.

[julychild]

I'm in a "wait and see" mode because there's a few things I haven't reconciled yet.  One of the things has to do with the airplane video and what Nick said about Josh won't say sh#t.  What happened at the FRC that would require Josh to say something in the presence of Nick???  

I'm a bit confused. In the plane video when Nick said, "Josh won't say sh!t" he was referring to Josh's relationship with Andi. He goes on further to say that Josh would let Andi walk all over him essentially.

I am hesitant to use the phrase "walk all over," but as far as I'm concerned, Josh more or less confirmed Nick's statement when he said he would "put up with her." Which to me means he would allow her to be as bratty and "diva-ly" as she wishes to be without any push back.

[Ash2214]

I'm in a "wait and see" mode because there's a few things I haven't reconciled yet.  One of the things has to do with the airplane video and what Nick said about Josh won't say sh#t.  What happened at the FRC that would require Josh to say something in the presence of Nick???  

I'm a bit confused. In the plane video when Nick said, "Josh won't say sh!t" he was referring to Josh's relationship with Andi. He goes on further to say that Josh would let Andi walk all over him essentially.

I am hesitant to use the phrase "walk all over," but as far as I'm concerned, Josh more or less confirmed Nick's statement when he said he would "put up with her." Which to me means he would allow her to be as bratty and "diva-ly" as she wishes to be without any push back.

I'm not sure Josh allowed her to when they were going at it about the lie detector date. He stood his ground. He obviously didn't like it and he told her. When she gave him a wise a$$ remark he gave her one right back. It's funny that Nick said that Josh wouldn't say sh!t to her because I remember when Andi and Nick got into their little argument over the group date and then when he got the 1-on-1 in Venice and said "you were right, I was wrong" I'm pretty sure he did the exact thing he said Josh would.

[MiaHawk]

I just worry that she does in fact start to accept or even accept Nick's proposal at the FRC and then change her mind minutes later after ending Josh home - hard to watch.

Or she takes a look at the ring that Nick picked out and says, "Hey, it's nice but I've still got to take a look at Josh's ring. Let me get back to you on this."

[Di_ATL]

I can put this in the Facebook/Twitter thread too if needed, but since we're on topic of the letter I figured I'd post it here. In regards to the letter, I thought it was interesting that Lauren Murray favorited this tweet by a friend of Josh's:

Christian Robinson @crob45  ·  Jul 21
Nothing's more scary than adding horror music to folded notebook paper. #Bachelorette

This could mean absolutely nothing, but who knows, it might very well be a letter from Josh. I don't know, but for me, whatever the letter is, it seems like to me that Lauren Murray might know what it's about - one way or another. I just think the previews are hyping it up.

I am thinking what Christian is saying is the paper is blank. their is nothing to it and he is basically laughing at what TPTB are attempting to do, cause doubt.
I think once Andi returned home from MTA, she told Josh they tried to get her to read his results, They both talked and know what it was he lied about theirfore his post last week. She told him that CH said he would bring it up again at the AFTR. She also told him they gave her a blank piece of paper to make it look like one of her f2 wrote her some dramatic letter, they are at home laughing since they know their is NOTHING to the blank piece of paper, but TPTB are now adding scary horror music to it to build up for drama. Basically Lauren is backing what Christian is saying as she too knows her brother and Andi are happy and engaged, waiting for this to be over. JMO   

[MiaHawk]

Two things:

1) IMO, the scene where CH gives Andi the letter seemed so staged and fake to me. If I were Andi and CH told me that I had a letter from one of my final 2 guys, I wouldn't dramatically place the folded paper on the table and stare at it. (I don't remember if she actually sat down and stared at it, too? IMO, it was so stupid.) My first reaction would be to open the letter. See who it is from. See what it says. Somebody writes me a letter, I'm going to read it.

The fact that she didn't open the letter makes me think a couple of things: Andi knows exactly who the letter is from and she was told ahead of time before the cameras were rolling. And she was told to place the letter dramatically on the table and create this great mystery about it.

This leads me to think it is some fluff from her F1 and essentially is just BS drama. If it is not from her F1, and is from her F2, then I think they are going to save that little nugget of shaming for the ATFR. It will be this season's "Arie's journal" (which most people believe Emily read, even though she claims she didn't). And if one little Miss Andi pulls out that letter all nice and folded and hands it back to her F2 "unread", I will laugh at my tv. No way Andi wouldn't read that letter. Even if it didn't change her mind one iota, she'd read it.

2) On Marcus' HTD, Andi called him "babe" while he was "entertaining" me, ahem, I mean, her.

[soccermom333]

Two things:

1) IMO, the scene where CH gives Andi the letter seemed so staged and fake to me.  If I were Andi and CH told me that I had a letter from one of my final 2 guys, I wouldn't dramatically place the folded paper on the table and stare at it.  (I don't remember if she actually sat down and stared at it, too?  IMO, it was so stupid.)  My first reaction would be to open the letter.  See who it is from.  See what it says.  Somebody writes me a letter, I'm going to read it.  

The fact that she didn't open the letter makes me think a couple of things:  Andi knows exactly who the letter is from and she was told ahead of time before the cameras were rolling.  And she was told to place the letter dramatically on the table and create this great mystery about it.

This leads me to think it is some fluff from her F1 and essentially is just BS drama.  If it is not from her F1, and is from her F2, then I think they are going to save that little nugget of shaming for the ATFR.  It will be this season's "Arie's journal" (which most people believe Emily read, even though she claims she didn't). And if one little Miss Andi pulls out that letter all nice and folded and hands it back to her F2 "unread", I will laugh at my tv.  No way Andi wouldn't read that letter.  Even if it didn't change her mind one iota, she'd read it.

2)  On Marcus' HTD, Andi called him "babe" while he was "entertaining" me, ahem, I mean, her.  

The letter is a joke. Much a do about nothing. Just like Cat's letter to Sean. We are doing exactly what TPTB want.... talking about it. Andi, imo, lets Nick go early so she can focus on her "babe." TPTB want a good finale this season because last season's finale was awful. The letter will be brought up at the ATFR and she will say I don't want to read it and disrespect Josh. All of this is in my opinion.

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