Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #4

[Guest]

It is a good possibility but that means they are going to bring up the video which so far everyone has remained silent about.  I am still suspicious as to why they would advertise this while promoting MTA.  Has TPTB just decided to let the cat out of the bag early and accept the plane vid and RS have already spoiled the season and it is now everything goes???

If it was true that Josh is F1, I don't see the need for TPTB to let the cat out of the bag. With the video being out there, it would speak for itself and TPTB wouldn't need to push the Josh is f1 campaign.  So the question people should be asking themselves is why are they so upfront about Josh being the F1?  The crazy thing about all of this is I really havn't seen anyone in media state that Nick will be F1, it's all Josh Josh Josh. In all my years of watching this show I have never seen everyone in the media agree so strongly that one contestant is the winner ... There is usually a mix of opinions.  Billy bush of access hollywood nonchalantly saying big Josh wins the girl and Chris S putting money on Josh being F1 cracked me up. We should all expect anything and everything from now on to give no hope of Nick being F1.  This should really make people question what they are seeing and hearing ...

ITA! Question everything. Of course at some point I have my doubts when I read things like "Reality Steve confirmed there is a SH in Atlanta" from over on the Josh boards. But then I think even if that were true, how could RS confirm that? So, I am skeptical by nature and question everything and I love speculating with all of you!

One other point about Andi, being an attorney, she has been trained to be analytical and she probably thrives on information/education/mental stimulation. It is three years of probing our entire American history through legal cases, it is a certain kind of mind that not everybody understands. Every subject then becomes an exploration, you want to discuss all sides of every subject. This is exhausting to some people, and everyone is just different. I think Nick and Andi have the same brains! That is why she says she kisses him and knows what he is thinking, they are just cut from the same cloth. How lucky she is to have found that in Nick!

I know that Josh is an incredible man and he is very, very smart too, but Nick is a quirky deep smart, probably has ideas and conversation flowing in a way that stimulates her, it is what she needs. I just see them as a great intellectual match. A lot of people who think (and over-think) aren't happy-go-lucky 100% and all the time, and I don't think Andi is either. She can be goofy, but really needs that serious time too, to talk about politics, world views, life, maybe books they've read, or just funny observations, on and on. She very specifically said that her physical chemistry was through the roof with Juan-Pablo but he had no interest in exploring her mind, finding out who she is and how she thinks and what she believes. Nick wants to know everything about her mind, which when it comes down to it, is WHO she is. She is not her looks! She is her mind and emotions! So, she says, He sees all parts of me!

I think that mental connection between Nick and Andi is rare and there is no way she could ever say goodbye to that. Josh will be better off with his true match, and if he were the Bachelor, I bet he would find someone amazing.

OK, so I have a sick child at home, so I'm getting a lot of computer time to have fun with you on the boards, although I'm somewhat embarrassed at how obsessed I am with this show. Thank you for being obsessed with me! (and over-thinking with me too!)

[Guest]

Maybe it's from Nick's little sister.

Has anyone speculated that this letter might be from Chris?  Or would that not make sense?  He is the letter writer, secret admirer, and he was so shocked when let go he didn't get to say much.  Maybe he couldnt express himself fully on air, so wanted to pre-empt it with a letter?  I might not be understanding the circumstances of the letter, I've only read about it in this forum.  Maybe Chris wrote an emotional letter to her?  It would also endear him to the audience for a potential Bachelor stint.  He sure is a handsome guy.  Ahhh . . .

I don't see Nick getting much bad press anymore, in fact I am hearing "Passionate! Intellectual! Challenging! Hot! Funny! Mature relationship! The kind of man Andi has aspired to be with."  It is really only on these boards that I'm hearing most of the anti-Nick stuff.  I think someone hit the nail on the head when they said the whole Josh vs. Nick thing comes down to age.  I bet the Josh board is filled with 20-somethings.  Here, I bet we are all late 30's to 40-somethings.  Not all, but majority.  Do you agree?  We know that Josh is an awesome human being, but he isn't right for Andi because Nick is there, and he is the one she loves.  But, the Josh board confuses me in that when I was there yesterday they said that Andi was crying on Nick's couch.  If so, she must let go of Nick it would seem.  But, how does Nick "have a couch" like how do they know that?  Also, I'm confused about the Andi-Josh snap chat rumor.  If that is true she must choose Josh.  But, it is like rumor and innuendo is fighting in my brain with what I actually see!  Such an exciting season because of the mystery!  (I love mysteries!)  In the end, whatever happens, I'll be happy because I know it is just a show and doesn't affect my life in any way except that I hope for people's happiness.

So, for now let's get excited about the finale on this thread.  Peanut Butter, Red Wine, It's the Little Things, "Nick is a once in a lifetime love", Shout it from the rooftops, Andi has come here for something different and has never felt the way she does with Nick, Passionate and Hot, Mature relationship.  I kiss him and know what he is thinking, he sees all sides of me."  There are just so many clues that they are together - and I hope it will last.    

Hi KarmaGirl :WAVEY: 
I think Chris is a good suggestion; either way I don't think it will change anything about Andi's choice or the direction of the show materially.  It's just a smoke screen.  
Loved Nick's tweet today about wanting a hug... not at work.  Definitely think it was a shout out to his lady... and like you I can't wait to see them out and about together, loving each other up.  
By the by Andi actually says: When Nick kisses me I feel what he's thinking - I actually committed this to memory b/c I LOVED that the sentence hit all the bases: physical, emotional and mental... and yes he gets her too - such an awesome chemistry to behold.

HI SUE! Yes, you have the actual quote, what a great thing to say/feel about someone. That you kiss them and feel what they are thinking. Ahhhhhh . . . .such romance. I can hardly take it! ;)

Nick's tweet today does confuse me. I always wonder exactly what he is saying with those tweets!

[SueSt]

It is a good possibility but that means they are going to bring up the video which so far everyone has remained silent about.  I am still suspicious as to why they would advertise this while promoting MTA.  Has TPTB just decided to let the cat out of the bag early and accept the plane vid and RS have already spoiled the season and it is now everything goes???

If it was true that Josh is F1, I don't see the need for TPTB to let the cat out of the bag. With the video being out there, it would speak for itself and TPTB wouldn't need to push the Josh is f1 campaign.  So the question people should be asking themselves is why are they so upfront about Josh being the F1?  The crazy thing about all of this is I really havn't seen anyone in media state that Nick will be F1, it's all Josh Josh Josh. In all my years of watching this show I have never seen everyone in the media agree so strongly that one contestant is the winner ... There is usually a mix of opinions.  Billy bush of access hollywood nonchalantly saying big Josh wins the girl and Chris S putting money on Josh being F1 cracked me up. We should all expect anything and everything from now on to give no hope of Nick being F1.  This should really make people question what they are seeing and hearing ...

ITA!  Question everything.  Of course at some point I have my doubts when I read things like "Reality Steve confirmed there is a SH in Atlanta" from over on the Josh boards.  But then I think even if that were true, how could RS confirm that?  So, I am skeptical by nature and question everything and I love speculating with all of you!

One other point about Andi, being an attorney, she has been trained to be analytical and she probably thrives on information/education/mental stimulation.  It is three years of probing our entire American history through legal cases, it is a certain kind of mind that not everybody understands.  Every subject then becomes an exploration, you want to discuss all sides of every subject.  This is exhausting to some people, and everyone is just different.  I think Nick and Andi have the same brains!  That is why she says she kisses him and knows what he is thinking, they are just cut from the same cloth.  How lucky she is to have found that in Nick!  

I know that Josh is an incredible man and he is very, very smart too, but Nick is a quirky deep smart, probably has ideas and conversation flowing in a way that stimulates her, it is what she needs.  I just see them as a great intellectual match.  A lot of people who think (and over-think) aren't happy-go-lucky 100% and all the time, and I don't think Andi is either.  She can be goofy, but really needs that serious time too, to talk about politics, world views, life, maybe books they've read, or just funny observations, on and on.  She very specifically said that her physical chemistry was through the roof with Juan-Pablo but he had no interest in exploring her mind, finding out who she is and how she thinks and what she believes.  Nick wants to know everything about her mind, which when it comes down to it, is WHO she is.  She is not her looks!  She is her mind and emotions!  So, she says, He sees all parts of me!  

I think that mental connection between Nick and Andi is rare and there is no way she could ever say goodbye to that.  Josh will be better off with his true match, and if he were the Bachelor, I bet he would find someone amazing.

OK, so I have a sick child at home, so I'm getting a lot of computer time to have fun with you on the boards, although I'm somewhat embarrassed at how obsessed I am with this show.  Thank you for being obsessed with me!  (and over-thinking with me too!)

ITA agree KarmaGirl - thanks for your great and thoughtful posts.
Nick penetrated Andi's heart through her mind... (how about that one!!)   
They have such an amazing mental connection and I agree she is not going to let him go.
It's a once in a lifetime thing, as Andi said on their FD.
Interestingly, on their one-on-one, Nick said he didn't believe in one perfect match, a true love; rather a choice to be together....
But I wonder if he totally believes that now... I mean the choice to stay together and work things out, yes, I still buy that... but I also believe in finding a perfect match, the one you recognize as being meant to be and that you've found your other half.... At that point there really is NO choice you are bound by a connection deeper than choice! That's what I see between Nick and Andi and it's inspiring and wonderful.

[Guest]

Andi could still be nervous because if she is picking Nick as I hope she does, she is going out of her comfort zone.  Nick is totally different from the guys she has dated in the past - so is she making a huge mistake ?  

i share the same guess with you. re: Andi will be nervous. only the reason is because of the Nick 'scripted' last obstacle: will he propose???..(hence the preview :Andi's VO: its (i bet the FR) staring at me) since she will let Josh go at a point before FRC. of course deep down i knew he would eversince ep.7 sneaky scene. but they need to inject this silly 'uncertainty' because...well, to fit the storyline. no more no less.

same old. they ramped up the drama of Nick's broken heart past started on his HTD,re:the scene of Andi with Maria, his sis. it resembles Ash sitdown with Elaine (JP's mom). both guys had the broken-heart theme as their last hurdle. Reiterate more on the FD day portion. I guess will reach its peak at the finale as well ala JP's 'take a leap of faith'. Too funny that both Nick and JP use the word 'you are IT for me' to their ladylove. Not complaining, since i love me Jash's lovestory

i could easily skip the crazy hype/noise (ragmag, letter-gate, what-else weird stuff, you name it) during this final week and still convince that Nick is the F1. No doubt.

[sdmom]

Hey team  :WAVEY: 
I feel like I went out to the battle field and fight for our boy, now I am all spent!
I think I need a hug too   

[SueSt]

Hey team  :WAVEY: 
I feel like I went out to the battle field and fight for our boy, now I am all spent!
I think I need a hug too   

Happy to hugggg!!  
All will be will for Andi and Nick, sdmom! TRUST what you see!!   

[SueSt]

Andi could still be nervous because if she is picking Nick as I hope she does, she is going out of her comfort zone.  Nick is totally different from the guys she has dated in the past - so is she making a huge mistake ?  

i share the same guess with you. re: Andi will be nervous. only the reason is because of the Nick 'scripted' last obstacle: will he propose???..(hence the preview :Andi's VO:  its (i bet the FR) staring at me) since she will let Josh go at a point before FRC. of course deep down i knew he would eversince ep.7 sneaky scene. but they need to inject this silly  'uncertainty' because...well, to fit the storyline. no more no less.

same old. they ramped up the drama of Nick's broken heart past started on his HTD,re:the scene of Andi with Maria, his sis. it resembles Ash sitdown with Elaine (JP's mom). both guys had the broken-heart theme as  their last hurdle. Reiterate more on the FD day portion. I guess will reach its peak at the finale as well ala JP's 'take a leap of faith'. Too funny that both Nick and JP use the word 'you are IT for me' to their ladylove. Not complaining, since i love me Jash's lovestory

i could easily skip the crazy hype/noise (ragmag, letter-gate, what-else weird stuff, you name it) during this final week and still convince that Nick is the F1. No doubt.[/

Preach it loud and long, Mura.
NO DOUBT!!!   

[SueSt]

^^OMG what did I DO with the formatting????  
Help?

[rosesrREd]

Hey team  :WAVEY: 
I feel like I went out to the battle field and fight for our boy, now I am all spent!
I think I need a hug too   

  

[emad0722]

Hey team  :WAVEY: 
I feel like I went out to the battle field and fight for our boy, now I am all spent!
I think I need a hug too   

  

hugs all round!!! I don't get on here to say much but I read all your comments and the team nick crew are awesome!!! that's all.

[sdmom]

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