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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:58 pm

rosesrREd wrote:I can not see a valid reason why she would go with Josh over Nick.  If it was because she was scared, then would she accept a proposal from Josh?  I think it would be very unlikely.

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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:59 pm

happygolucky wrote:Ok ... just came home from the most wonderful place, spent a day with my best friends from another country that I haven't seen for almost a year ... and what I read?
Can someone explain to me what's going on?
Do I understand right, someone wrote Andi a letter before her final decision?
Is it possible someone tries to "warn" her of Nick ... since everyone believes he isn't sincere with her ... and so she goes into with a doubt, whether before she was almost certain that he is all in? Or I'm reading all wrong (just this page, haven't looked anywhere else)?
Deep breath Happy... it's just stuff they are throwing at us to fan the fires... 99% chance its nothing!!
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Post by happygolucky Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:09 pm

Sue Smiley ... I've read now the last 3 pages ... ok ... so the only new thing is the new preview? ...
This could be good ... since she keeps saying "this could blow into my face" (not sure if i got it right, but somewhere along that line) ... if she already had made a decision and it was Nick ... for whom she never had any doubts ... so there would be no suspense about his final decision ... they go and create a doubt (all for the show and story, not that anyone buys it), so the letter arrives ... she starts to "doubt" ... but decides to trust her own gut one last time ... and chooses him. BOOM ... he actually was sincere all this time ... and he means it ... when he says he wants to marry her ... so there you go. Dramatic end. The Proposal.


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Post by isittrue Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:16 pm

Wow, the fact that she receives the letter at which appears AFR opens a lot of possibilities but my brain is starting to get a little weary speculating....

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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:18 pm

isittrue wrote:Wow, the fact that she receives the letter at which appears AFR opens a lot of possibilities but my brain is starting to get a little weary speculating....

whatever it is... and it's probably nothing; I'm guessing it in no way changes Andi's decision or the outcome of the show.
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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:20 pm

happygolucky wrote:Sue Smiley ... I've read now the last 3 pages ... ok ... so the only new thing is the new preview? ...
This could be good ... since she keeps saying "this could blow into my face" (not sure if i got it right, but somewhere along that line) ... if she already had made a decision and it was Nick ... for whom she never had any doubts ... so there would be no suspense about his final decision  ... they go and create a doubt (all for the show and story, not that anyone buys it), so the letter arrives ... she starts to "doubt" ... but decides to trust her own gut one last time ... and chooses him. BOOM ... he actually was sincere all this time ... and he means it ... when he says he wants to marry her ... so there you go. Dramatic end. The Proposal.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:24 pm

happygolucky wrote:Sue Smiley ... I've read now the last 3 pages ... ok ... so the only new thing is the new preview? ...
This could be good ... since she keeps saying "this could blow into my face" (not sure if i got it right, but somewhere along that line) ... if she already had made a decision and it was Nick ... for whom she never had any doubts ... so there would be no suspense about his final decision  ... they go and create a doubt (all for the show and story, not that anyone buys it), so the letter arrives ... she starts to "doubt" ... but decides to trust her own gut one last time ... and chooses him. BOOM ... he actually was sincere all this time ... and he means it ... when he says he wants to marry her ... so there you go. Dramatic end. The Proposal.
The letter happens 2 months after the frc though.

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Post by Luvstruck Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:32 pm

So when does she get the letter? If she got it right before taping the MTA they would have mentioned at the MTA wouldn't they hype the drama of it? Will she or won't she read it ...but there are no reports of that from MTA. Right?

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Post by happygolucky Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:33 pm

OK, probably I jumped into your conversation without knowing what all of your thoughts are about ...

No - I don't think letter changes anything.
What I'm saying ... in the preview they don't say who the letter is from or when it was sent (or do we know?) ... so it could be from any guy who she already let go (my bet could be Marcus or Chris) ...
... so I thought, maybe it's a letter where someone tries to warn her about Nick's wrong intentions ... since there is this stigma going around (and a lot of viewers actually believe it) that Nick isn't there for the right reasons and isn't sincere with her ...
but we all see, that Andi believes and trusts Nick ...
so if she already has Nick on her mind, if he is her final choice ... from her perspective, there is no doubt that he would propose ... because that's what he's been saying lately all the time ... so she would go to the FRC convinced of his answer...
but we know - from the preview - and also from the usual edit - that the lead goes to FRC with a doubt how it's gonna play out ... like she isn't sure whether the guy will propose to her or will he walk away ...
(I exclude Josh completely from this conversation ... then again he is definitely F1 in the minds of all and he is the guy who would absolutely propose to her, without any doubt)
... I'm not saying that she actually starts to have a doubt ... maybe ... but it's all for the show ... she needs to be "insecure" of a guy's final answer ...
Can you follow me? ... so they create (TPTB) this letter from someone, who wants nothing but good for Andi, to insinuate a doubt about Nick ... so ... at the FRC ... there would be big suspense on what his answer would be. Will he say yes and propose or will he walk away?


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Post by isittrue Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:35 pm

I think the letter is probably just closure for the F2, he has been watching the show and sees what is happening with Andi and her F1 and is ready to move on. I just think it's oddly timed to put on during the MTA but if Nick is F2 it fits around the same filming dates. If people see Nick has closure, than maybe they can see Nick as the next Bachelor easier if that is the direction they are going with this.

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Post by happygolucky Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:36 pm

lexforlife wrote:The letter happens 2 months after the frc though.
OH, shoot! Really? That's confirmed? So after the final rose, after the proposal? ... oh well, I give up on guessing ... just don't give a d*** anymore. I'd like to see this story unfold.


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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:39 pm

happygolucky wrote:OK, probably I jumped into your conversation without knowing what all of your thoughts are about ...

No - I don't think letter changes anything.
What I'm saying ... in the preview they don't say who the letter is from or when it was sent (or do we know?) ... so it could be from any guy who she already let go (my bet could be Marcus or Chris) ...
... so I thought, maybe it's a letter where someone tries to warn her about Nick's wrong intentions ... since there is this stigma going around (and a lot of viewers actually believe it) that Nick isn't there for the right reasons and isn't sincere with her ...
but we all see, that Andi believes and trusts Nick ...
so if she already has Nick on her mind, if he is her final choice ... from her perspective, there is no doubt that he would propose ... because that's what he's been saying lately all the time ... so she would go to the FRC convinced of his answer...
but we know - from the preview - and also from the usual edit - that the lead goes to FRC with a doubt how it's gonna play out ... like she isn't sure whether the guy will propose to her or will he walk away ...
(I exclude Josh completely from this conversation ... then again he is definitely F1 in the minds of all and he is the guy who would absolutely propose to her, without any doubt)
... I'm not saying that she actually starts to have a doubt ... maybe ... but it's all for the show ... she needs to be "insecure" of a guy's final answer ...
Can you follow me? ... so they create (TPTB) this letter from someone, who wants nothing but good for Andi, to insinuate a doubt about Nick ... so ... at the FRC ... there would be big suspense on what his answer would be. Will he say yes and propose or will he walk away?
I'm pretty sure the letter is delivered to Andi AFTER filming is completed (she appears to be in a tv studio) - it looks like it's related to the MTA.  I also don't think anyone would be writing Andi to watch out for Nick.  I doesn't seem like any of the guys hated him that much... more like producer induced animosity.
Even though she's pretty sure Nick is going to propose; she's not 100% sure and is also probably a little nervous about it too.  So yes, I agree about her doubt at the end of the season... but not because of a letter.
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