Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #4

[MonicaJM2001]

So Andi just started following Sam Smith on twitter. Since this weekend, I think. Coincidence or not?

 
He does seem to be getting popular lately so of course it could be a coincidence but on the other hand it could also be she was around someone who "talked her ear off" about how the great *he* thought the music was and she surrendered to it... 

[Guest]

I saw that photo too that Marcus tweeted. I assumed that J- retweeted it because he was in the photo, not necessarily because he was in LA.

[MonicaJM2001]

Andi: "I feel hopeful and safe and I feel like when Nick looks at me he sees every part of me; my heart,my mind, my soul. I don't know how to describe it because I've never felt that way before. It's a once in a lifetime type of stuff. I feel very lucky that I've met somebody like Nick."

Good night Nick fans.  Nick is great and seems happy no matter what happened, so I am happy.  If Andi made up those words or let someone go that she genuinely felt this way about then the lose is truly hers and not his.

For those who want it I won't give up hope for him as F1, but I am happy for Nick either way.

  It is great to see how happy he seems. And you're right regarding the above quote, if I heard my boyfriend/husband lamenting about another person in that fashion, well he wouldn't be my husband/boyfriend after that ...... but maybe that is just me....

[cindebugg]

rosesrREd wrote:
Is anyone curious as to why Nick's Twitter is relatively silent over the last several days?


I have no idea and even though I know this is the Nick fan thread (it is the only one I visit) I think it is very important for all of us to know this.

We know that Nick was in CA because he was spotted but the other one was also there and has retweeted a pick of himself with some of the guys.  

Isn't it interesting that Nick has not done that????? We would not know had he not been spotted?????????????????

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, does make me wonder??? 

By "the other one" do you mean Josh?  If so you should know that Josh was in Tampa for the weekend.

[Brill]

I saw that photo too that Marcus tweeted. I assumed that J- retweeted it because he was in the photo, not necessarily because he was in LA.

You could be right but I took it the other way. Since he said this weekend.   

[Mooshun]

I saw that photo too that Marcus tweeted. I assumed that J- retweeted it because he was in the photo, not necessarily because he was in LA.

You could be right but I took it the other way. Since he said this weekend.    

I'm pretty sure Josh was not there. Also Marcus wrote in his tweet "Great weekend with some of these hooligans! #bachelorette #mentellall pic.twitter.com/62Pz6k6RBL". Key word "some". I also doubt that Marcus would be sporting scarves anytime soon like he did in the pic after everyone making fun of the whole scarves thing and not to mention in the summer ;)

[Guest]

FYI that Marcus pic is from the day marcus got the 1-1 date card in Bruxelles.

[Guest]

YES, Nick is F1... Read the posts back from last night to today.  Should make you feel better.

I did read and I love reading everything you all have to say! I just gives me pause when RS is so sure of himself and says see you on the 28th like he can't wait to be right. Sorry to bring negativity in a happy place. I just keep going back and forth in my head with it.

One word, or should I say 3.... MY Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. I hung on to RS spoilers and his every ounce of confidence last season. EVERY OUNCE. I think I've more than learned my lesson to ever do that again. Last year he was so sure, 1000% positive that Bres were engaged and still going EVEN AFTER Brooks left. The foil last year turned out to be the whole "Brooks returns at the end." Is it "inconceivable" that this season "ze plane, ze plane!" video/"she changed her mind at the last minute" is the ruse?   

Everyone should observe my Siggy   .Man! i never knew how it feels to get "RSed". It must have been sucked Monica!  

LOL...I couldnt have said it better.  "Brooks returns at the end." = definitely ""she changed her mind at the last minute"   . It will keep the viewers and RS at the edge of their seats till the last minute.
very clever of Mr. Chris Viall,  "inconceivable" ........i cant even conceive how big (and sweet  ) the kaboom will be....  

channeling Nick   , i love to strategizing/playing scenarios with Fleiss's devious tricks. So pls excuse me if the Conspiracy Theory came up often in my post.  . I always thought Fleiss have 2 different targeted viewers group to fool :
1) the avid fans--who seek info from RS and/or do their own sleuthing
2) General viewers-- who only watch every Monday
in this sense, the video, snapchats and all RS's evidences are serving its purpose for targeted group 1) while the horrid edit of Nick in prior episodes serve to smokescreen his connection with Andi as the F1 for group 2).

see,   suggests that  Josh will be let go at a point after LCD before FRC. I can already picture avid fan viewers keep thinking he will return in order the spoilers to be right.... It will be 'at the last minute' surprise for RS as well... Oh my....

Call me crazy. I believe the homeygirl had falling fast for Nick since their first 1-1 (on epi 3)---this is described well by an awesome friend   :
- her blogs. They go on one date and all of a suddenly she writes about this great mental, intellectual, physical connection.
- flowers/note: she goes to find him, zooms him out of the kitchen and out the door (really cute move; she could have done the usual and sat him on a bench or couch) then can't even wait for him to take off his suit jacket before smooching him up. That was after 1 date because he had NO dates in epi 2.

Needless to say, TPTB need to hide this early connection like crazy..including to throw the F1 in his 'personal' edit under the bus. (drama with the guys). Note that it doesnt necessarily means his Great Love story edit going down with his personal edit..(Note that these 2 kinds of edits are separated/different entity). Even in his lowest low personal edit, drama with Cody (Epi5) his relationship with Andi was getting stronger (Andi told him: if i were your wife....Nick reciting his 'When i see you' ). Nick's personal edit = V letter in my book. while the Great Love Story edit is like the Eric's bracelet... with connecting the dots in between...(his connection with Andi keep progressing and building up in each epis)....opened by the FIR, closed by the FR.   

bringing over Sue and NR's posts :

SueSt wrote:
When speaking with his mom Nick says:
I don't want to be that person who's had his heart broke before in the past and that won't live his life to the fullest because he's afraid to put himself out there.
In the context of the episode around Eric's passing - Is there a more appropriate sentiment??
Very sweet!
#LivinglikeEric....

notarose wrote:
This is truly beautiful.  
Such a poignant approach to living one's life.  We likely all know people who cannot completely let go of their past heartbreaks and use what other people made them feel as an excuse to not be open hearted with someone new. True love is not about protecting your own heart; it's about giving your heart to someone else to protect for you... and you, in turn, are responsible for theirs.
Such depth!

Love that one circle is now complete.  How strong is Nick?  He fell in love with Andi on a tv show while having to not only deal with other guys showmancing his girl but having to also deal with them questioning his integrity. Under these circumstances, he was the first and last rose.  Like a string of pearls with roses on either end, the clasp is now secured.   (get outta here NR..you are such gifted with words!   )

That being said, i really believe the Eric Effect have played important role in Andi's final decision and... in TPTB's decision. Like i have posted, looks like Eric's passing made her to re-focus on whats important in life and how she view things, including what she has with Nick. Which is real and truly once in a life time experience and chance. I believe from way back, going to DR, she already set her mind who her F1 was (Nick)..that explained the type of date Nick got..and the unnecessity to keep the other guys around any longer --re: Chris's sent home before FS.  As for TPTB's part, Eric's death has also been the wake up call for them to showcase the Love Story that has been hidden for so long .

Im glad that we all get to see both Nick's personal edit soften and the LS is in full force,  on epi.8 and 9. On epi 8 Andi only said she saw the future with the one and only Nick (not shown in the other 3 guys) directly to both his sisters and the camera. On epi 9, it iterated in the intro package where she clearly said : she can see herself with Nick staying in love, and growing old together   (Note that she only used more 'generic' terms for Josh and Chris). Never before, TPTB also has 'allowed' such powerful VOs (like julychild posted upthread) a nd PIsfor us to savor.  . All of these are dedicated to Eric, for great love he has represented and for the one he missed during his life time. In this sense, I also believe unlike past seasons, TPTB will give more freedom for Andi to put her Great Love story with Nick front and centre in the end, to be memorable for a life time. Among others will be : Nick as the only and the last man standing at the FRC (both have been foreshadowed in prev episodes).  . We shall see!   

To top that, i also believe wholeheartedly--as suggest by NR--that TIME has been main focused in Nian relationship (the sign of 'time' has been all over their LS edit). In the essence, they knew they cant control when the 'time' (to leave this world) come. So as they talked on their first date, its only the matter of decision. we chose to be together, NOT with anyone else, and we'll work it out no matter what..so, why later?...... Isnt it soooo real and romantic?   

I tell you guys. A wedding aka in Nick's term 'impending danger' in the horizon. For now, im gonna go with a Recorded/Live ATFR from Milwaukee/non LA studio for enggament party/save the date and an upcoming Dec wedding ala Trista-Ryan. You know, a fresh from the oven couple> wed prep right after the season end, kinda. Not complaining! 

[Piper61]

We know Josh was in Tampa as there is picture proof. Marcus has in the past added certain #'s to photos that don't really apply to the specific photo. I believe since it was the weekend of the MTA taping, he added that to the photo but it was definitely not taken this past weekend. Also, notice Dylan's hair...pre-haircut that he got after he left the show, right?

[notarose]

:WAVEY: Mura

Always wonderful to read your detailed posts.    We are so fortunate to have a super sleuth like you in our midst to gather up all the little things and move us forward in creating a bigger picture.

    

[MVMom39forever]

Andi: "I feel hopeful and safe and I feel like when Nick looks at me he sees every part of me; my heart,my mind, my soul. I don't know how to describe it because I've never felt that way before. It's a once in a lifetime type of stuff. I feel very lucky that I've met somebody like Nick."

Good night Nick fans.  Nick is great and seems happy no matter what happened, so I am happy.  If Andi made up those words or let someone go that she genuinely felt this way about then the lose is truly hers and not his.

For those who want it I won't give up hope for him as F1, but I am happy for Nick either way.

Exactly!! I feel exactly the same.

[MVMom39forever]

I did read and I love reading everything you all have to say! I just gives me pause when RS is so sure of himself and says see you on the 28th like he can't wait to be right. Sorry to bring negativity in a happy place. I just keep going back and forth in my head with it.

One word, or should I say 3.... MY Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. I hung on to RS spoilers and his every ounce of confidence last season. EVERY OUNCE. I think I've more than learned my lesson to ever do that again. Last year he was so sure, 1000% positive that Bres were engaged and still going EVEN AFTER Brooks left. The foil last year turned out to be the whole "Brooks returns at the end." Is it "inconceivable" that this season "ze plane, ze plane!" video/"she changed her mind at the last minute" is the ruse?   

Everyone should observe my Siggy   .Man! i never knew how it feels to get "RSed". It must have been sucked Monica!  

LOL...I couldnt have said it better.  "Brooks returns at the end." = definitely ""she changed her mind at the last minute"   . It will keep the viewers and RS at the edge of their seats till the last minute.
very clever of Mr. Chris Viall,  "inconceivable" ........i cant even conceive how big (and sweet  ) the kaboom will be....  

channeling Nick   , i love to strategizing/playing scenarios with Fleiss's devious tricks. So pls excuse me if the Conspiracy Theory came up often in my post.  . I always thought Fleiss have 2 different targeted viewers group to fool :
1) the avid fans--who seek info from RS and/or do their own sleuthing
2) General viewers-- who only watch every Monday
in this sense, the video, snapchats and all RS's evidences are serving its purpose for targeted group 1) while the horrid edit of Nick in prior episodes serve to smokescreen his connection with Andi as the F1 for group 2).

see,   suggests that  Josh will be let go at a point after LCD before FRC. I can already picture avid fan viewers keep thinking he will return in order the spoilers to be right.... It will be 'at the last minute' surprise for RS as well... Oh my....

Call me crazy. I believe the homeygirl had falling fast for Nick since their first 1-1 (on epi 3)---this is described well by an awesome friend   :
- her blogs. They go on one date and all of a suddenly she writes about this great mental, intellectual, physical connection.
- flowers/note: she goes to find him, zooms him out of the kitchen and out the door (really cute move; she could have done the usual and sat him on a bench or couch) then can't even wait for him to take off his suit jacket before smooching him up. That was after 1 date because he had NO dates in epi 2.
Needless to say, TPTB need to hide this early connection like crazy..including to throw the F1 in his 'personal' edit. (drama with the guys). Note that its not necessarily means his Great Love story edit goes down with his personal edit..even in his lowest low personal edit, drama with Cody (Epi5) his relationship with Andi was getting stronger (Andi told him: if i were your wife....Nick reciting his 'When i see you' ). Nick's personal edit = V letter in my book. while the Great Love Story edit like the Eric's bracelet... with connecting the dots in between.(his connection with Andi keep progressing and building up)....open by the FIR, closed by the FR.   

bringing over Sue and NR's posts :

SueSt wrote:
When speaking with his mom Nick says:
I don't want to be that person who's had his heart broke before in the past and that won't live his life to the fullest because he's afraid to put himself out there.
In the context of the episode around Eric's passing - Is there a more appropriate sentiment??
Very sweet!
#LivinglikeEric....

notarose wrote:
This is truly beautiful.  
Such a poignant approach to living one's life.  We likely all know people who cannot completely let go of their past heartbreaks and use what other people made them feel as an excuse to not be open hearted with someone new. True love is not about protecting your own heart; it's about giving your heart to someone else to protect for you... and you, in turn, are responsible for theirs.
Such depth!

Love that one circle is now complete.  How strong is Nick?  He fell in love with Andi on a tv show while having to not only deal with other guys showmancing his girl but having to also deal with them questioning his integrity. Under these circumstances, he was the first and last rose.  Like a string of pearls with roses on either end, the clasp is now secured.   (get outta here NR..you are such gifted with words!   )

That being said, i really believe the Eric Effect have played important role in Andi's final decision and... in TPTB's decision. Like i have posted, looks like Eric's passing made her to re-focus on whats important in life and how she view things, including what she has with Nick. Which is real and truly once in a life time experience. I believe from way back, going to DR, she already set her mind who her F1 was (Nick)..that explained the type of date Nick got..and the unnecessity to keep the other guys around any longer --re: Chris's sent home before RS.  As for TPTB's part, Eric's death has also been the wake up call for them to showcase the Love Story that has been hidden for so long. Im glad that we all get to see both Nick's personal edit soften and the LS is in full force,  on epi.8 and 9. On epi 8 Andi only said she saw the future with the one and only Nick (not shown in the other 3 guys) directly to both his sisters and the camera. On epi 9, it iterated in the intro package where she clearly said : she can see herself with Nick staying in love, and growing old together   (She only used more 'generic' terms for Josh and Chris). TPTB also has 'allowed' such powerful VO (like julychild posted upthread) for us to savor.  . All of these are dedicated to Eric, for great love he has represented and for the one he has missed during his life time.In this sense, I also believe unlike past seasons, TPTB will give more freedom to Andi to put her Great Love front and centre, to be memorable for a life time. Among others will be : Nick as the only and the last man standing at the FRC (the 'only': it has been foreshadowed in prev episodes).  . We shall see!   

To top that, i also believe wholeheartedly--as suggest by NR--that TIME has been main focused in Nian relationship (the sign of 'time' has been all over their LS edit). In the essence, they knew they cant control when the 'time' (to leave this world) come. They both know that they cant control death. So as they talked on their first date, its only the matter of decision. we chose to be together, NOT with anyone else, and we'll work it out no matter what..so, why later?...... Isnt it soooo real and romantic?   

I tell you guys. A wedding aka in Nick's term 'impending danger' in the horizon. For now, im gonna go with a recorded/Live ATFR from Milwaukee for enggament party/save the date and a Dec wedding ala Trista-Ryan. You know, a fresh from the oven couple> wed prep right after the season end, kinda.  

Yes!! Thank you Mura for being the keeper of the clues. Love it. Love Nick ...sweet, sexy, sensitive, sensual and smart.

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