Re: Bachelor In Paradise - General Discussion - *Spoilers* Thread #2

[chloep]

btw, while they were apart on Monday, Marcus made sure to give a little shout-out to Lacy...

marcus_grodd: #bachelorinparadise starting off at 120% ..... shirtless pic of himself...

[GuardianAngel]

I've like Lacy since watching her bio on JPG's season. They showed her family, and her "siblings" as she calls them. They were so sweet, as were her parents. Dedicating your life in that area of work, is truly to be admired.

There is an assisted living home near me, who my BFF's brother lives in. It's a beautiful old home, with 6 rooms. Each have their own room with use of the rest of the house. Every Christmas I bring a huge platter of assorted cookies, and a birthday cake for his birthday in April. The owners are a lovely couple who treat them like their own family.

As far as BIP, IMO she was smart and played the game in order to remain in Paradise. If her and Marcus are engaged, either one of them can still work in their field in any city they choose too.

[MVMom39forever]

I've like Lacy since watching her bio on JPG's season. They showed her family, and her "siblings" as she calls them. They were so sweet, as were her parents. Dedicating your life in that area of work, is truly to be admired.

There is an assisted living home near me, who my BFF's brother lives in. It's a beautiful old home, with 6 rooms. Each have their own room with use of the rest of the house. Every Christmas I bring a huge platter of assorted cookies, and a birthday cake for his birthday in April. The owners are a lovely couple who treat them like their own family.

As far as BIP, IMO she was smart and played the game in order to remain in Paradise. If her and Marcus are engaged, either one of them can still work in their field in any city they choose too.

Yes! I really liked Lacy during the first episode of JP's season and was shocked that she didn't make it into the house. She seems to have a kind heart and is the right type of gal for Marcus, who continues to wear his little old heart on his sleeve. I just want to reach into my tv and give Marcus a big old Mamma Bear hug!

Back to Lacy ... any 25-27 year old who works with seniors/special needs adults and is ambitious enough to also pursue a real estate license gets the thumbs up in my book.   

Sure her boobs are gigantic (real?!) and she goofed on that 80/40 expression but I knew where she was headed. If someone videotaped me after a day in the sun and a few glasses of spirits, I can't imagine the words that would be falling out of my mouth.

Lacy might not be a rocket scientist but she's doing something right in life. And if that's just wearing her bathing suit really really well, more power to her!

[Guest]

How many epsiode's?

Btw, I saw that Lacy favorited a lot of stuff about her and Marcus and her picking him over Robert. I also saw that Michelle tweeted who does Lacy like better of the two and she tweets back something along the lines of you'll soon find out...with kissy and heart eye emojis. Lol

Are any contestants writing blogs??

[moonchild]

I have enjoyed everyone's posts. I am really liking BIP.......really funny. I think the raccoon should be on every episode.....kinda like "the doctor is in". That would be really funny and something to look forward to each week!

I think I know the perfect person for Graham. Did anyone watch that dating showing on CBS, "3"? April Francis was one of the "3" looking for love. I really liked her on that show and have followed her on Twitter since that season. She is really cool, intelligent and has quite an impressive resume. There is a lot about her and her business venture on her website aprilfrancis.com

Anyway, the thought just struck me.

[Beeleever]

So many pages to read...so little time! Thanks for the kind words Noobs and Luv! I'm happy to be back on board with all of you and blogging again.

Questions for the mods:
1. Is there a screen caps no discussion thread for BIP? I have a ton of screencaps I made for my blog. I'd be more than happy to share!
2. Is there a media thread I should be posting the link to my blog in each week?

Thanks!

[GuardianAngel]

So many pages to read...so little time! Thanks for the kind words Noobs and Luv! I'm happy to be back on board with all of you and blogging again.

Questions for the mods:
1. Is there a screen caps no discussion thread for BIP? I have a ton of screencaps I made for my blog. I'd be more than happy to share!
2. Is there a media thread I should be posting the link to my blog in each week?

Thanks!

Yes there is. I moved it out into it's own category.

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BIP

Thanks for sharing!!

[albean99]

I loved your blog recap, Bee.  

[Beeleever]

I loved your blog recap, Bee.  

Thanks Bean! You rock GA!

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[lorijbaker]

Yeah I was wondering what was the dress code? and why is Elise wearing that? and Lucy…she doesn't wear much at all….

[lorijbaker]

And Beeleever I love your blog… Do you have any more personal information about Jeremiah? Has he fallen in love again? I hope so… I was so sad when he broke up with Paige.

[JBF]

OK... the mods will have to move this post to a BACHELOR IN PARADISE FUN THREAD, but I couldn't find any other place to dump it.

Astrology mumbo jumbo for Bachelor In Paradise

Just read with your own perspective and snark.

Ugh! I wasn’t going to waste time looking up the contestant birthdays like we did in past seasons to see if there is anything “astrological” that might suggest if two contestants have any success together that goes beyond a shared need to look silly on prime time. Not all of us take this stuff seriously, but… we did have fun with it in past seasons. So… why not? Remember when we discovered pre-season that Chris Siegfried was the most “compatible” of the leaked Birthday Boys with Desie? We did prove right that time.

This is one of the sites we used before: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrological_love_compatibility.php

In addition to calculating charts, they also give us overall ratings of compatibility. These ratings are debatable and open to interpretation. I have put a number of happily married couples into the ringer and most average below 40% success ratings. I think most people are aware that their “match” is not going to be perfect… and most people want the “spice” brought on by radically different personalities anyway. The higher the rating (and matched-up Sarah and Graham cream the competition this season with a whopping 93% success score), the less conflict involved in your relationship. However, no conflict can be… well… boring.

OK… a rundown of just the primary contestants. I skipped some contestants like beloved fan favorite Brooks simply they don’t look like they are on the show much per promos. However I can easily add him… and others later. No problem.

Note: I have NO CLUE about each actual birthplace and time, which is sssssoooo important with these “thangs”. Everything you read below is hardly 100% accurate. In fact, I will bet at least three of the birth DATES I have below are Dead Wrong! Yet… that is why we able to “edit” our posts and make corrections. Tee hee hee.

AshLee Frazier (7-1-80, Houston TX)

Sun 9-10° Cancer / Moon late Aquarius / Mercury 24° Я Cancer / Venus 16° Я Gemini / Mars 25° Virgo / Jupiter 6° Virgo / Saturn 21° Virgo / Uranus 21° Я Scorpio / Neptune 20° Я Sagittarius / Pluto 18° Libra / Chiron 17° Taurus / N. Node 20° Leo

Awwww… AshLeeeeee! She is a sun sign Cancer/moon sign Aquarius… just like the US of A. (July 4, 1776 Declaration of Independence also had the moon in Aquarius.) Therefore, whatever one’s opinion of her, she is all American: suspicious, eccentric but conservative, but also motherly (eager to take care of foundlings, just as she was an adopted child once). Yeah, that Mars/Jupiter/Saturn in Virgo (she probably has Virgo rising as well) does make her a critical fussy too. (Remember how she checked out the sofa pillows at Sean’s meet & greet?)

I must admit that I can’t quite understand her attraction and possessiveness towards Graham, but since her Neptune sign is mid-way between his sun sign and Mars sign, she may be seeing him as her “ideal”… and her sunglasses are blocking out some of his “flaws”. Maybe he is a new project of hers: How To Domesticate A Man Who Isn’t Quite Ready To Be Domesticated. Then again, maybe they just needed a female version of Nick this season who would be 100% she would win the one she wanted early on.

Much like the US of A… which likes to “domesticate” other nations… and, you know, win.

By the way, the one she sports the highest score on astrotheme.com site with is Zack, with a 73% success rating compared to a score of 42% with Graham… which isn’t bad either if she would stop spooking him so much. Intriguingly, Zack was deciding between both her and Clare when he arrived with his date card as if he had a good “sense” both ladies were prime possibilities. Oh well… AshLee’s loss is Clare’s gain.

Chris Bukowski (9-10-86, IL)

Sun 17° Virgo / Moon early Sagittarius / Mercury 22° Virgo / Venus 2° Scorpio / Mars 16° Capricorn / Jupiter 17° Я Pisces / Saturn 4° Sagittarius / Uranus 18° Sagittarius / Neptune 3° Я Capricorn / Pluto 5° Scorpio / Chiron 21° Gemini / N. Node 21° Aries

I may be in the minority, but I really like this dude. Yeah… he is quite a talker.

That Virgo sun/Mercury makes him notice every crooked picture, bad dress code and linguini… not spaghetti… on the wall (see Jack Lemmon’s take on Felix Unger as reference). Meanwhile, all of that Sagittarius makes it come out of his mouth super funny, flowing like diarrhea. This guy really struggled playing a “sneak” on Bachelor Pad because his foot kept landing in his mouth at all times and exposing his game play. What did he say to Clare? “When I find the right person, I will be the most loyal and perfect boyfriend, husband, whatever that is…” Ohhhhh… tell us what you really think, Chris! Don’t hide anything.

With Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Capricorn, he does seem to like the ladies who are stern, disciplined and willing to spank him. Why else would he fuss about being “heartbroken” over prim and proper Emily Maynard and waiting so long to meet attorney Andi Dorfman? Since he is a bit of a control freak, ladies tying to control him give him a rise.

This boy has this ridiculous “T square” involving “mutable” signs (Virgo, Pisces, Sagittarius) and desperately wants a partner to put order in his life. Elise, a Pisces, is not the type he needs. Not surprisingly, his best match on the astrotheme.com site is AshLee, of all people. If only she wasn’t so intensely focused on Graham with greater passion than even Deanna displayed when she was Bachelorette, she would notice at least one guy who wants to be domesticated! Her future Happy Home with Graham will likely involve him tying bed-sheets together in order to escape out the attic window. Yet if AshLee throws away the front door key to keep Bukowski home, he will simply sob in happiness “Why are you so good to me?” “Mamma Bear knows best.”

Clare Crawley (3-20-81, CA)

Sun 29° Pisces (if born in the morning. Sign changes to Aries later.) / Moon late Virgo / Mercury 2-3° Pisces / Venus 25° Pisces / Mars 2° Aries / Jupiter 6° Я Libra / Saturn 6° Я Libra / Uranus 0° Я Sagittarius / Neptune 24° Sagittarius / Pluto 23° Я Libra / Chiron 14° Taurus / N. Node 9° Leo

A full moon cusper (sun sign changed from Pisces to Aries on her day, along with the moon from Virgo to Libra) who calls herself Daddy’s Little Girl… although she is probably more like Mommy in her youth. She stated at the start of this season that she is tired of chasing men and wants men to chase her, but her Mars is in Aries… and ladies with this placement can’t stop themselves from being assertive.

With plenty of Pisces on her chart, it is small wonder she loves the water so much… like a fish. She also attracts all of the half-Mexican critters on her dates: raccoons, coatimundis, iguanas and basilisks. Venus in Pisces = Miss Clare Bear.

Although she scores a high rating on the astrotheme.com site with Robert... and got aquatic with him, his giving her a rose in episode #1 simply prompted her to say “there will be more guys coming in”. In addition, Chris Harrison commented on his blog: “The two of them got along incredibly well, but there didn’t seem to be any romantic chemistry between them. Let’s put it this way: They climbed up and stood atop ancient Mayan ruins overlooking the ocean in Tulum Mexico, then went swimming in the ocean together, and there wasn’t even a little kiss. It doesn’t get more romantic than that. Maybe it was a first date thing, and he likes to play it slow, or maybe he was really just wanting to get back to see Lacy, who he started a flirtation with early on.”

Maybe the problem was that he wasn’t “watery” enough for her, with only his Saturn in Scorpio being a “water” sign. After brushing off Chris Bukowski, she was all eager for Zack to arrive, being a Lunar Cancerian with two Scorpio planets… in order to get her pheromones water-born. (If she was born early enough in the morning, before 7AM PST, her moon sign would be in late Virgo, lining up with Zack’s sun sign… an added plus.)

Cody Sattler (11-2-86, IL)

Sun 10° Scorpio / Moon mid Scorpio / Mercury 29° Я Scorpio / Venus 14° Я Scorpio / Mars 14° Aquarius / Jupiter 13° Я Pisces / Saturn 8° Sagittarius / Uranus 20° Sagittarius / Neptune 3° Capricorn / Pluto 7° Scorpio / Chiron 20° Gemini / N. Node 20° Aries

Oh Cody Cody Cody… please don’t tell me you have a little scorpion tattooed somewhere under your biceps. I hope Yee Spoiler King has it wrong, matching him up with Michelle Money since they score a lackluster rating of 31% on the astrotheme.com site. She may not know how to handle all of his intensity… although her Libra indecisiveness could use a partner who is as “fixed” as Cody. (Yes is yes and no is no with Cody.)

He does beat to his own drum, but works very hard getting us all to love him. Aquarius is his Mars sign, combined with five Scorpio placements, making him quite “intense” in his friendships and group associations. Very, very generous (Pisces, Sagittarius)… he probably is the type who will do anything for you, support you all the way… through thick and thin.

Jackie (another Libra like Michelle) scores a 55% success rate with him on the astrotheme.com site, although the promos and spoilers indicate nothing happening between them. Yet she isn’t as “intense” and may be able to handle him better than the others. Also she has just enough Scorpio in herself to relate.

Elise Mosca (3-4-87?... guessing a bit here, PA)

Sun 13° Pisces / Moon mid-Taurus / Mercury 3° Я Pisces / Venus 1° Aquarius / Mars 8° Taurus / Jupiter 0° Aries / Saturn 20° Sagittarius / Uranus 26° Sagittarius / Neptune 7° Capricorn / Pluto 9° Я Scorpio / Chiron 15° Gemini / N. Node 11° Aries

I hate to break it to you. Dylan is a Sagittarius (November 29), not a Scorpio. You should have waited for Cody (going by the spoilers).

With her conquest of Chris B., Elise should be praised for being so daring and adventurous… just as she was sssoooo determined with Dylan. The attraction is understandable. Chris is a Virgo and she’s a Pisces. Her Mars is in Taurus, his Venus is in Scorpio. Yet her Mars is opposite Pluto, which is the whole “must win at any cost” struggle… the whole not-thinking-before-you-leap.

Some label her ditzy, but her retrograding Mercury in Pisces indicates a very inward and methodical thinker… sometimes too methodical. This probably explains her love of teaching, since she has good intuition of the kids and their behavior patterns. Maybe it doesn’t come out right when she talks. (Most with retrograding Mercury signs are often excellent writers, but not always the best speakers in public… and Elise isn’t the only Mercury retrograde on this show.)

Alas… this show hasn’t produced enough matches for Elise, so she probably knows that she has slim pickings. Robert is the best of the bunch since he’s a Taurus (her moon and Mars crave earthy stability). She probably could find somebody better at one of the reunion parties unless she and Chris live happily ever after or Dylan comes back on his hands and knees post-show.

Graham Bunn (12-7-78, TX)

Sun 15° Sagittarius / Moon late Pisces / Mercury 10° Я Sagittarius / Venus 8° Scorpio / Mars 26° Sagittarius / Jupiter 8° Я Leo / Saturn 13° Virgo / Uranus 18° Scorpio / Neptune 17° Sagittarius / Pluto 18° Libra / Chiron 5° Taurus / N. Node 23° Virgo

The Great Philanthropist. That Sagittarius/Pisces combo makes him a softie for all who are under privileged and lost. No cause is too great. Those with the sun and Neptune close together have an “other worldly” presence about them. Like many movie stars, they project a certain image that may or may not be accurate since others project what they want to see on them.

Alas… he is hardly the “domesticated” type. Michelle knows that too. She never tried to put a harness on him. Although accused of being possessive by TV viewers, AshLee might succeed with him if she loosens the lease a bit and allow him plenty of space.

However… on astrotheme.com, Graham scores an outstanding 93% success rating (higher than any other match-up on this show) with… ready for this?... fellow birthday-girl Sagittarian Sarah. (See below)

Jackie Parr (9-29-87, FL?)

Sun 5-6° Libra / Moon late Sagittarius / Mercury 1° Scorpio / Venus 16° Libra / Mars 24° Virgo / Jupiter 27° Я Aries / Saturn 15° Sagittarius / Uranus 23° Sagittarius / Neptune 5° Capricorn / Pluto 8° Scorpio / Chiron 28° Gemini / N. Node 2° Aries

Jackie has arrived into what the business world would call a “sellers market”. While pickings weren’t great for Elise (which is why she had to fling herself to Dylan and Chris with so much gusto), Jackie simply waits for the guys to fight over her.

She scores a very high score with several guys on this show, according to the astrotheme.com site. Part of this has to do with her Sagittarius planets, eager to have fun with the guys, and her Venus in Libra that is most accommodating. Also most of the guys have an abundance of air signs (Libra, Aquarius, Gemini). Bro-buddies Robert and Zack each score an 84% success rate with her, although Robert may be the better match since he is a lunar Libra (with her being a sun sign Libra). Marquel scores a lesser but still very strong 79% and two who arrive later, Jesse the winemaker and Tasos, also score a high 66% and 63% respectively.

Good luck. There may be too many for you to handle.

Jesse Kovacs (2-15-82, CA)

Sun 26-27° Aquarius / Moon in late Scorpio or early Sagittarius / Mercury 3° Aquarius / Venus 23° Capricorn / Mars 19° Libra / Jupiter 10° Scorpio / Saturn 22° Я Libra / Uranus 4° Sagittarius / Neptune 26° Sagittarius / Pluto 26° Я Libra / Chiron 18° Taurus / N. Node 21° Я Cancer

There’s gossip on line that he gets caught in another love triangle of sorts. Won’t know if it is true until it plays out.

Who are we fooling ourselves? He has been enjoying his bachelorhood since Jillian’s season. Aquarians do like the social gatherings and he is mostly here for that… to be single and mingle. Not saying he won’t find The One, but she certainly should have plenty to offer above all others available. With Venus in Capricorn, he does favor them disciplined and conservative in appearance though. Like Chris Bukowski, he may not mind them being strict with him too… and spanking him when he misbehaves.

Jackie is probably his best bet (66% rating on astrotheme.com), if she isn’t involved with other guys. Oh wait… I hear she may be part of his “triangle”.

Lacy Faddoul (5-9-88, CA?)

Sun 19° Taurus / Moon in late Aquarius or early Pisces / Mercury 8° Gemini / Venus 27° Gemini / Mars 21° Aquarius / Jupiter 14° Taurus / Saturn 1° Я Capricorn / Uranus 0° Я Capricorn / Neptune 9° Я Capricorn / Pluto 10° Я Scorpio / N. Node 21° Pisces

Since she is occupied with Marcus full throttle, I guess it is pointless to match her up with other guys. Robert wanted her in the beginning. He and Marcus both score in the 40s range at astrotheme.com, roughly the same as Chris Siegfried and Desiree, Jason and Molly and a few other successful couples. So this was an “either or” situation with Marcus getting her. Lacy isn’t going to have a flawless “perfect” relationship with either guy, but most married couples don’t stay together because they favor the same TV shows or love the way each brushes their teeth anyway.

She is a super generous gal (sun and Jupiter in Taurus together) with the whole caring attitude with her career, but it is “mental stimulation” that has Marcus’ mojo up. His Venus is smack between her Mercury and Venus in Gemini. We aren’t seeing much on screen with just lines of “I miss you”, but these two are talking up a storm… off screen. There is probably a lot of verbal teasing and games of Peter Pan and Wendy going on here.

Lucy Aragon (9-25-88, CA)

Sun 2-3° Libra / Moon in early Aries / Mercury 26° Libra / Venus 20° Leo / Mars 5° Я Aries / Jupiter 6° Я Gemini / Saturn 26° Sagittarius / Uranus 27° Sagittarius / Neptune 7° Capricorn / Pluto 10° Scorpio / Chiron 6° Cancer / N. Node 14° Pisces

She says the only “romance” she found was with a fellow plane passenger. She obviously didn’t stay long… like Brooks, Danielle, Kalon and others I haven’t bothered here since there is so little of them in the promos. Yet you KNOW you are curious about her, but are afraid to ask.

Born at full moon, she represents the Libra-Aries dynamic quite well. Think of the “free spirits” stuffing the soldier rifles with flowers at the Pentagon in 1967. Having Venus in “look at me!” Leo and both the moon and Mars in “I am woman, hear me roar” Aries, she is actually an impatient soul with a short fuse, but tries to maintain her Libran sweetness and sense of yoga harmony as long as she can.

Apart from her generational Pluto in Scorpio, she isn’t terribly “watery” and emotional. Yes, she is a lot of fun, but there’s an aloofness which guys seeking somebody to “mother” them may find a little disappointing.

Her best match, Zack (who can supply some of the “water” and gets a 75% match-up at astrotheme.com) may be too occupied with Clare when she arrives, although they look buddy-buddy post-show. She appears less fond of Marquel on twitter, despite a pretty good 58% success rating with him. Just for comparison, Marcus gets a weak 35% and Robert just 25% if it matters.

Marcus Grodd (7-2-88, Dallas TX)

Sun sign 13° Cancer / Moon in Aries / Mercury 22° Gemini / Venus 13° Я Gemini / Mars 26° Pisces / Jupiter 27° Taurus / Saturn 28° Я Sagittarius / Uranus 28° Я Sagittarius / Neptune 8° Я Capricorn / Pluto 9° Я Scorpio / Chiron 0° Cancer / N. Node 16° Pisces

Sun sign Cancer with Mercury/Venus in Gemini loves his gals to talk talk talk talk. Moon in Aries means mommy was a bit rough and tough (we heard some back story last season), having to stand on her own two feet and fight fire if necessary. He wants his ladies to be independent and strong willed too. Not that Lacy seems the type, but she is successful in her profession.

Like Graham, Marcus is a little “other worldly”. He has Mars in Pisces and likes to pretend to be somebody he is not at times. Or rather… he is himself, but people project their own image of what they think he is on him.

Although Jackie gets a higher rating with Marcus on astrotheme.com than Lacy (52% success rate compared to 43%), he is best sticking to Lacy since Jackie has enough drones stumbling over her.

Marquel Martin (4-13-87, Rialto CA)

Sun 23° Aries / Moon mid-Libra / Mercury 1° Aries / Venus 19° Pisces / Mars 5° Gemini / Jupiter 10° Aries / Saturn 21° Я Sagittarius / Uranus 26° Я Sagittarius / Neptune 8° Я Capricorn / Pluto 9° Я Scorpio / Chiron 17° Gemini / N. Node 11° Aries

Back to full moon… like Clare and Lucy. The Aries/Libra dynamic runs rampant this season. Has that macho I’ll-beat-you-to-a-punch Aries persona combined with a fondness for sweets (Libra). What amuses me the most is his very soft and velvety voice, masking the fact that he is more impatient and restless than he lets on.

Marquel scores pretty high ratings at astrotheme.com with several contestants. Although Michelle started losing interest when he brought up her drinking, these two get a very high 83% success rating. Also 79% and 75% respectively with fellow Librans Jackie and Lucy.

These women have a way of relaxing him. With plenty of Pisces, Gemini and Sagittarius, he constantly feels… scattered and easily distracted. Pluto is his only “fixed” sign, so he definitely needs a partner who is stubborn enough to be his rock of Gibraltar. Speaking of whom, AshLee scores a 45% success rate with Marquel over the 42% she has with Graham. If she needs a man to domesticate, Marquel may be a better choice, not that he needs domestication in the kitchen.

Michelle Money (9-28-80, UT)

Sun 5-6° Libra / Moon early Gemini / Mercury 28° Libra / Venus 22° Leo / Mars 20° Scorpio / Jupiter 24° Virgo / Saturn 0° Libra / Uranus 23° Scorpio / Neptune 20° Sagittarius / Pluto 21° Libra / Chiron 17° Taurus / N. Node 19° Leo

Michelle scores an 83-84% success rating with two contestants on this show, even better than long time buddy Graham. They are Marquel (who is fizzing out with her) and… Chris Harrison. Let’s admit it. She and Harrison are a match made in heaven. Each is an Armchair Shrink who loves sitting down with people, listening to their problems. Never mind the nine year age difference. It isn’t THAT much of a leap… and raising a kid adds age and experience. They also share an equal fussiness with clothing and style. They should be both married and business partners. The End.

Robert Graham (April 24, 1983, AZ?)

Sun 3-4° Taurus / Moon early Libra / Mercury 23° Taurus / Venus 13° Gemini / Mars 14° Taurus / Jupiter 9° Я Sagittarius / Saturn 0° Я Scorpio / Uranus 8° Я Sagittarius / Neptune 29° Я Sagittarius / Pluto 27° Я Libra / Chiron 25° Taurus / N. Node 26° Gemini

Many of these I am not certain of their birthday. Yet going by bits and pieces from twitter searches, Robert does fit the sun sign of Taurus, moon in Libra by appearances alone. He is a chill and let others chill kind of dude. With Saturn in opposition to his sun sign, he is used to others “critiquing” him and has broad shoulders to handle rejection, misfortune and disappointment. I’m OK. You’re OK.

On the astrotheme.com site, he and Jackie score a high 84% success rating, but he is quite compatible with several ladies even though they all probably label him “friend zone”. So many on this show are seeking CHALLENGE and, thanks to the handlers, are also winding up with DRAMA. Drama, Robert isn’t. If Sarah thinks she is getting him by default, she shouldn’t be disappointed, since they do score an above average rating of 59%... although she and Graham are an even better fit.

Unfortunately Saturn is his only water sign, so he may not be “touchy feely” enough for these ladies. Clare got in the water with him, but Harrison was quick to point out that they weren’t kissing at all.

Sarah Herron (12-7-87, CA)

Sun 15° Sagittarius / Moon mid-Cancer / Mercury 6° Sagittarius / Venus 12° Capricorn / Mars 8-9° Scorpio / Jupiter 19° Я Aries / Saturn 22° Sagittarius / Uranus 26° Sagittarius / Neptune 6° Capricorn / Pluto 11° Scorpio / Chiron 26° Gemini / N. Node 28° Я Pisces

Many online don’t care for her because she has a monotone, slightly whiney voice. Part of the problem is that she isn’t very “airy”… too much fire, water and earth and hardly any air makes her less “animated” as a talker on screen.

Yet Sarah is really a fun girl any guy would love. (You folks forgot she climbed down a building with Sean once upon a time?) She is like a Peppermint Patty who will drum up support for Charlie Brown when he is down and out, even if friend Marcie must remind her to act more “feminine” at times… and Chuck is still focused too much on that little red-haired girl instead.

Her moon in Cancer does her make her a motherly type underneath all of the carefree Sagittarian rowdiness and Venus in Capricorn stuffiness. Most guys should be warned not to cross her too-too much though, with Mars and Pluto both in Scorpio.

Sarah and Graham score the highest rating at astrotheme.com at an outstanding 93% success potential, despite both being “too much alike” same birthday Sagittarians. One reason for this high rating is their different, but highly compatible, moon placements in Cancer and Pisces respectively. Robert, Tasos and Jesse also average in the well above average 50s in success ratings with her… so she is not Just Another Contestant.

Tasos Hernandez (8-4-83, CO?)

Sun 11° Leo / Moon mid-Gemini / Mercury 5° Virgo / Venus 9° Я Virgo / Mars 24° Cancer / Jupiter 1° Sagittarius / Saturn 28° Libra / Uranus 5° Я Sagittarius / Neptune 26° Я Sagittarius / Pluto 26° Libra / Chiron 2° Gemini / N. Node 24° Gemini

Doesn’t look like Tasos stays long, going by twitter discussion and promo attention. We do get him in one date scene though… forgot with whom.

He has a few traits in common with Juan Pablooo, such as sun in Leo, Venus in Virgo, Mars in Cancer and Saturn in Libra. Yet he is more fun loving with Jupiter/Uranus/Neptune in Sagittarius. In fact he is more of a Sagittarian “type” than a Leo “type’, loving all of the international travel and philosophical “stuff”. Moon in Gemini indicates he likes the talkers… the more a woman yakety yaks, the more he is turned on.

Jackie scores a 63% success rating with Tasos, but she does score big with most of the guys anyway… so Tasos has to compete ferociously here.

Zack Kalter (9-19-84, Anaheim CA)

Sun 26° Virgo / Moon mid-Cancer / Mercury 10° Virgo / Venus 22° Libra / Mars 19° Sagittarius / Jupiter 3° Capricorn / Saturn 13° Scorpio / Uranus 9° Sagittarius / Neptune 28° Sagittarius / Pluto 0° Scorpio / Chiron 8 Gemini / N. Node 29° Taurus

They say men are from Mars and women are from Venus, but Zorro has Venus in “let’s not fight” Libra and has his arms around both Lucy and Clare in one key group shot… and these ladies both have Mars in “I am woman, hear me roar” Aries.

Ever the athlete who can express his masculinity in sports quite easily, he is still… at heart… a momma’s boy (sun Virgo, moon Cancer). In fact, he is probably the most domesticated contestant here in terms of “husband” material.

Although Jackie, Lucy and AshLee each score in the 70s at astrotheme.com (not that it matters to AshLee since she is hooked on Graham), Zack and Clare score a very good  45-50% success rating depending on the time of day they were born. (Sometimes with these contestants, you also seek out the day before and after their birthday for a better “range”.) If Clare was born early in the morning, it is an added plus since her moon will line up with his Virgo sun sign. His Sagittarius Mars and her Aries Mars make for a rather active lifestyle of outdoor recreation.

Unfortunately, there is competition here on account of him being prime beef on the market, so Clare may have battle to hold on to him.

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