Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[SueSt]

Thoughts about last night and next week.  The Nick date was edited to death, but like the Josh date.  They had to give us some Marcus and Chris last night, as we had very little of either up to that.

They decided to paint Nick as awkward, when I saw comfort and love.  He is a mental connection that has grown into more.  Andi knows where she is with him.  Now, does he take Eric's passing and the rose ceremony and start to doubt himself and her?  

I saw sparks with Chris and am glad he wasn't just F3 to be the bachelor.  He is fantastic and a grown up, but I still don't see MeAndI moving to Iowa.  Too bad.  He did start to get the bachelor edit, but is it too little to late?  

Josh's date was also spliced and diced.  It is obvious from this as well as SM and articles, this family is a unit.  While I didn't find the concern for Josh expressed at the beginning of the date to be MeAndI, the talk with Stephanie was.  What if we have couple things to do on Sunday?  Well, if you know for four months out of the year that Sundays are taken, you plan accordingly.  The NFL has the shortest of any regular season, get over it.  I had no problem with the Aaron focus, the draft was two weeks away and a Huge deal.  I have seem from social media that Momma Murray focuses just as much on Josh and Stephanie as Aaron.  I put it more as they focus on each other.  I would be more pro-Josh, but enough with the doubt already.  With one week left if you are still so unsure of Josh then I think your subconscious or gut is telling you something isn't right.

As Kasha stated last night she dated the same type over and over again and until she found the right man who wasn't that type at all.

I really think that Nick is that man.  Chemistry wise I expect Josh to be F2, and maybe she does pick him, but even after he says ILY, she still can't let it go. To me, much like Des with Chris, her subconscious is telling her Nick. Brooks is a lot like Josh, it was exciting and butterflies because they didn't trust it.

To me real love is the warm, security.  It can be exciting, but at the end of the day you believe in it.  She has had that with Nick and a little with Chris last night.  But Josh continues to be insecure.  At some point you have to realize the truth, you aren't going to feel secure.

I think the HTDs made a good case or either Chris, lonely, hot farmer for bachelor, or Josh, great family guy who deserves his chance to be the #1 love.

Happy, your analysis of SM and the F4 was very interesting.  I am not 100% convinced, but it is a compelling case.

Real love to me isn't the butterflies, it is the warm, calm and strength.  It can still be exciting, but it makes you feel secure not nervous or insecure.  Heck we have seen secure with Nick and a little with Chris last night.  Have we seen any secure with Josh?  Isn't it time?

Happy, loved your interpretation of the

I LOVE your post stuckinsc!!! particularly the bolded - I'm definitely with you on the warm security thing.
Andi has no hesitations with Nick.. but still has hesitations with Josh (athlete, Aaron, family) and Chris (location, has she moved from her head to her heart with him??)...
At the end of her HTD date with Nick as she's leaving (and I quoted it up thread) she says she's glad she got Nick's parents approval and blessings... and now it was all green lights, let's move ahead... no hesitations.
I think the preview for FTDs suggests that Nick continues to question Andi for the confirmation he needs ... and it will be an opportunity for Andi to give Nick the warm security that HE needs.   
Bring it on!!!       

[Guest]

Its always the little things that matters! Love this sweet gesture!

[SueSt]

^^ they are slowly unmasking themselves (ok, shoot me now) to reveal their true and vulnerable selves...

[Cecilia]

http://gossipandreality.com/episode-71-the-final-four-are-now-down-to-three/

Molly changing her tune about Nick!

[notarose]

Nick favorited a fan tweet about this song.  "Am I Wrong" by Nico & Vinz. The lyrics are REBEL to the nth degree. Of note: the reference to "top of the world".     The song basically says he doesn't care if people think he's wrong 'cause he knows what's what and that's all that matters.



  Nicholas Viall  

Can you elaborate on what you meant by "he knows what's what, and this is all that matters"?  I did go and read the lyrics of the song, so now I am just wondering what you meant by "he knows what's what"?

"HE" as in the singer/songwriter. Self determination based on self knowledge despite outside views is the theme of the song. That is what I meant by "the song basically says he...".

Some people gravitate toward a particular song because they like the beat; others gravitate because the lyrics have meaning to them. Nick consistently shows himself to be an introspective individual so it's not a stretch to speculate lyrics appeal to him.

[happygolucky]

oh yeas Chicago girl! - then it's obligatory that you stay   Kidding, I wish you can find your own voice ... I walked in here quite negative at the beginning, convinced that Nick isn't F1 because of the edit and just couldn't let it go (sorry to all of you who had to read me, when now I know how you felt) ... mostly to protect myself, because a lot of times I run away from things where I cannot predict the outcome, when I don't know the ground ... you know, just like Nick said on his 1st 1on1 ... and there Andi gave him really good speech on how he should take this experience (wish I could do the transcript but for longer sentences I'm really bad) ... and from then on Nick just went straight forward, no looking back, no worries ... he dared ... and that to me was so appealing, because I'm not as daring as him (and we share a birthday, I know, I keep repeating that too much, but to me it's so funny, because it was so unexpected, to have watched this show one day and just "fall in love" with this guy) ... I tend to like people who have traits or expose parts of themselves, that I usually am embarrassed/scared to do myself ... so yeah, I kinda fall for people who have "balls to be themselves" ... even with faults ... they are endearing to me. The criticism irritates me to oblivion ... but "slowly" I'm learning, to shut out some noises, to simply ignore, to prefer not to respond to certain comments, because it doesn't change anything, you only lose time - and since that is the most precious thing to all of us, we should "use" it wisely.
OK, enough of my ranting ... I really like this place, and I am quite embarrassed of my start, because today I know a bit more, so I've learned my lesson, oh ... and I also made some admin. pretty irritated - I imagine, I know I would be, if I would have to edit the posts of others.

[Beagle]

Have I said I love you lately Mura? You bring some much hope and optimism  to this thread!
Happy, your posts are so thoughtful! English is also not my native language and yours is 10000% better than mine!
Cecelia: DON'T LEAVE!! I too also have my questions which make me not sure who the f1 is. I can't stand the negativity in other threads and when I bring pro-Nick clues they got dismissed easily. That's why this fan thread is for: all positive all the time and we can discuss all the subtle clues to our hearts' desires. SO STAY!
Am I wrong that I am more TeamNick than TeamNiAn? This happens to me all the time!  

This is me.  If she doesn't pick him it's her loss.   

Cecilia, Im in the same boat as you. Big fan of Nicks, not expecting him to be F1. Im actually hoping he can connect with Sharleen.   

[Guest]

^^ they are slowly unmasking themselves (ok, shoot me now) to reveal their true and vulnerable selves...  

LOL..instead im gonna give you this Sue!     

[notarose]

Nick's dad has spoken on twitter:
@viallnicholas28 @jviall @mrjjobrien fun fact. Bella came up with those questions on her own. #cutiepie
- 8 Jul 14
https://mobile.twitter.com/cviall11

Must be crappy having people doubt your family.

[sdmom]

Next episode description is out! Here's Nick's FD
"Andi and Nick take a helicopter ride to an uninhabited beach on Saona Island. As they romp in the crystal blue water, it’s undeniable that there is physical chemistry between them. But is there something more going on with this somewhat complicated man than he has let on? Later at a romantic seaside dinner, Nick finds a creative way of recapping their relationship and finally lets Andi know how he feels about her. But does that necessarily mean a trip to the “fantasy suite?”

Hmmm, TrickyNicky, what is your Creative Way?   

[SueSt]

^^ they are slowly unmasking themselves (ok, shoot me now) to reveal their true and vulnerable selves...  

LOL..instead im gonna give you this Sue!     

  thanks Mura!! you made me smile!!   

[Norcalgal]

From Andi's blog about HT dates, we learned that both she and Nick had a difficult time making their connections from Brussels to Milwaukee. In fact, Nick arrived the morning of his date! No wonder he looked a little subdued - boy was tired.

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