Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[SueSt]

Nick favorited a fan tweet about this song.  "Am I Wrong" by Nico & Vinz. The lyrics are REBEL to the nth degree. Of note: the reference to "top of the world".     The song basically says he doesn't care if people think he's wrong 'cause he knows what's what and that's all that matters.



  Nicholas Viall  

LOVE this song, NR, thanks for the post. VERY cool that Nick is all about it!!   

[rosesrREd]

One thing that stuck me is how both Nick and Andi are tweeting constantly about the show and the other guys are not. Would an F2, tweet and promote a show, that has edited him in a bad light if he was not happy with the outcome?

[stuckinsc]

Thoughts about last night and next week.  The Nick date was edited to death, but like the Josh date.  They had to give us some Marcus and Chris last night, as we had very little of either up to that.

They decided to paint Nick as awkward, when I saw comfort and love.  He is a mental connection that has grown into more.  Andi knows where she is with him.  Now, does he take Eric's passing and the rose ceremony and start to doubt himself and her?  

I saw sparks with Chris and am glad he wasn't just F3 to be the bachelor.  He is fantastic and a grown up, but I still don't see MeAndI moving to Iowa.  Too bad.  He did start to get the bachelor edit, but is it too little to late?  

Josh's date was also spliced and diced.  It is obvious from this as well as SM and articles, this family is a unit.  While I didn't find the concern for Josh expressed at the beginning of the date to be MeAndI, the talk with Stephanie was.  What if we have couple things to do on Sunday?  Well, if you know for four months out of the year that Sundays are taken, you plan accordingly.  The NFL has the shortest of any regular season, get over it.  I had no problem with the Aaron focus, the draft was two weeks away and a Huge deal.  I have seem from social media that Momma Murray focuses just as much on Josh and Stephanie as Aaron.  I put it more as they focus on each other.  I would be more pro-Josh, but enough with the doubt already.  With one week left if you are still so unsure of Josh then I think your subconscious or gut is telling you something isn't right.

As Kasha stated last night she dated the same type over and over again and until she found the right man who wasn't that type at all.

I really think that Nick is that man.  Chemistry wise I expect Josh to be F2, and maybe she does pick him, but even after he says ILY, she still can't let it go. To me, much like Des with Chris, her subconscious is telling her Nick. Brooks is a lot like Josh, it was exciting and butterflies because they didn't trust it.

To me real love is the warm, security.  It can be exciting, but at the end of the day you believe in it.  She has had that with Nick and a little with Chris last night.  But Josh continues to be insecure.  At some point you have to realize the truth, you aren't going to feel secure.

I think the HTDs made a good case or either Chris, lonely, hot farmer for bachelor, or Josh, great family guy who deserves his chance to be the #1 love.

Happy, your analysis of SM and the F4 was very interesting.  I am not 100% convinced, but it is a compelling case.

Real love to me isn't the butterflies, it is the warm, calm and strength.  It can still be exciting, but it makes you feel secure not nervous or insecure.  Heck we have seen secure with Nick and a little with Chris last night.  Have we seen any secure with Josh?  Isn't it time?

[happygolucky]

Cecilia, unfortunately we are in this crazy period of very extreme poles and it's getting harder.
I understand you ... but also it is important to stay positive here and hoping for him being F1 - for going with his wish and belief in finding his soul-mate. Also, because every other thread outside of here has majority people already being convinced that he cannot be F1, so every word by Nick's fans here is dismissed. I hear you, believe me, since I also voice my own doubts about the ending. Wish it could be more open for all Nick's fans, whatever their though is on the end. But since the negativity outside is really rubbing off on all of us, I think some would prefer that these sweet heaven remains a bubble, just like Nick had lived in ...
till the end optimistic, then we'll deal with what the universe gives us.
Think big and don't be scared, because from every heartbreak you learn more and you end up richer. Don't preclude yourself of dreaming, hoping, trusting, devoting own time for this love-story, whatever the outcome. Specially because we "are" in "alternative reality". This world should be all about free-spirited, positive spare time, leisure, own guilty pleasures ... and as soon it turns sour, you have to change something, prioritize your time and dedication, because noone should leave this place unsatisfied and even more cranky than you already are with your own personal problems. This should be an entertaining place (during boring hours, after work - hopefully not during, but we all are victims of sometimes), not one more addition to the crosses we carry daily.

PS. - it's a speech more for myself, so nothing personal, since I get caught into this world of negativity that leaves me preoccupied more than I should let any SM to effect my life. Have to learn when enough is enough.

[Guest]

Cecilia, unfortunately we are in this crazy period of very extreme poles and it's getting harder.
I understand you ... but also it is important to stay positive here and hoping for him being F1 - for going with his wish and belief in finding his soul-mate. Also, because every other thread outside of here has majority people already being convinced that he cannot be F1, so every word by Nick's fans here is dismissed. I hear you, believe me, since I also voice my own doubts about the ending. Wish it could be more open for all Nick's fans, whatever their though is on the end. But since the negativity outside is really rubbing off on all of us, I think some would prefer that these sweet heaven remains a bubble, just like Nick had lived in ...
till the end optimistic, then we'll deal with what the universe gives us.
Think big and don't be scared, because from every heartbreak you learn more and you end up richer. Don't preclude yourself of dreaming, hoping, trusting, devoting own time for this love-story, whatever the outcome. Specially because we "are" in "alternative reality". This world should be all about free-spirited, positive spare time, leisure, own guilty pleasures ... and as soon it turns sour, you have to change something, prioritize your time and dedication, because noone should leave this place unsatisfied and even more cranky than you already are with your own personal problems. This should be an entertaining place (during boring hours, after work - hopefully not during, but we all are victims of sometimes), not one more addition to the crosses we carry daily.

PS. - it's a speech more for myself, so nothing personal, since I get caught into this world of negativity that leaves me preoccupied more than I should let any SM to effect my life. Have to learn when enough is enough.

thanks for saying it a million times better than me Happy!   

[Guest]

Can we not appreciate the fact that the sneaky editors didnt show us Nick's scene with his adorable friends?..actually i wanna see the convo between Nick, his friend on the banner and his wife.

http://www.buddytv.com/slideshows/the-bachelorette/the-bachelorette-week-8-photos-the-hometown-dates-3889.aspx

someone said Nick's HTD is edited as Nikki's HTD. Short and sweet. A good sign for F1?
Too funny. I thought Nick is kinda a male version of Nikki

[SueSt]

One thing that stuck me is how both Nick and Andi are tweeting constantly about the show and the other guys are not.  Would an F2, tweet and promote a show, that has edited him in a bad light if he was not happy with the outcome?

   I don't think so...   

[Longhornfan]

Nick favorited a fan tweet about this song.  "Am I Wrong" by Nico & Vinz. The lyrics are REBEL to the nth degree. Of note: the reference to "top of the world".     The song basically says he doesn't care if people think he's wrong 'cause he knows what's what and that's all that matters.



  Nicholas Viall  

Can you elaborate on what you meant by "he knows what's what, and this is all that matters"? I did go and read the lyrics of the song, so now I am just wondering what you meant by "he knows what's what"?

[sdmom]

Have I said I love you lately Mura? You bring some much hope and optimism  to this thread!
Happy, your posts are so thoughtful! English is also not my native language and yours is 10000% better than mine!
Cecelia: DON'T LEAVE!! I too also have my questions which make me not sure who the f1 is. I can't stand the negativity in other threads and when I bring pro-Nick clues they got dismissed easily. That's why this fan thread is for: all positive all the time and we can discuss all the subtle clues to our hearts' desires. SO STAY!
Am I wrong that I am more TeamNick than TeamNiAn? This happens to me all the time!  

[Cecilia]

Have I said I love you lately Mura? You bring some much hope and optimism  to this thread!
Happy, your posts are so thoughtful! English is also not my native language and yours is 10000% better than mine!
Cecelia: DON'T LEAVE!! I too also have my questions which make me not sure who the f1 is. I can't stand the negativity in other threads and when I bring pro-Nick clues they got dismissed easily. That's why this fan thread is for: all positive all the time and we can discuss all the subtle clues to our hearts' desires. SO STAY!
Am I wrong that I am more TeamNick than TeamNiAn? This happens to me all the time!  

This is me. If she doesn't pick him it's her loss.   

[sdmom]

^SO make sure you have your camera phone ready because you never know when you will run into Nick! Chicago is such a beautiful city in the #summer  

[Guest]

Have I said I love you lately Mura? You bring some much hope and optimism  to this thread!
Happy, your posts are so thoughtful! English is also not my native language and yours is 10000% better than mine!
Cecelia: DON'T LEAVE!! I too also have my questions which make me not sure who the f1 is. I can't stand the negativity in other threads and when I bring pro-Nick clues they got dismissed easily. That's why this fan thread is for: all positive all the time and we can discuss all the subtle clues to our hearts' desires. SO STAY!
Am I wrong that I am more TeamNick than TeamNiAn? This happens to me all the time!  

This is me.  If she doesn't pick him it's her loss.   

i just think i am a different species than you all   . See...im not a Nick fan per se. Heck, i am no fan of Meandi. But i love their interactions, how they bring out the best of each other and the love story (yet scripted ) they tell us (me? ). OTOH i love doing  and keep getting clues that may support my first point.

so i do wonder where i belong?   

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