Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #5

by Hotmomma Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:46 pm

I still am wondering why Nick was being filmed with the story board excutive on Thursday and than shows up in LA.just enjoying himself.not at the MTA or appeared to hang out with the guys..Nothing all even g or so far this am..
Andi is there in La quiet since the taping wrapped.when is her next appearance?

Josh is I. Miami with Family still there today.his momma posts a FRC gathering to raise money for the homeless( witch is awesome) and says weather or not he receives the final rose..

I think Nick is there in La to see Amdi..who knows wha is up production sleeve, Maybe there is going to be something big?

by jen689 Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm

sdmom wrote:Initially I thought Nick was in LA possibly in the running for next TB, but chloep said it's between Marquel and Chris.

The MTA audience may have loved Marquel but remember last year how they loved JP question

When Marquel was on BIP Chris H said he had a hard time opening up and being vulnerable. Just because he is an audience favorite it doesn't guarantee he'll be the next bachelor.

What about the rumors regarding Chris that his family doesn't want him gone during harvest season when the show will be filming question

If Nick isn't F1 I think he's still in the running to be the next bachelor :Nod:

by rosesrREd Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:56 pm

jen689 wrote:
sdmom wrote:Initially I thought Nick was in LA possibly in the running for next TB, but chloep said it's between Marquel and Chris.

The MTA audience may have loved Marquel but remember last year how they loved JP
When Marquel was on BIP Chris H said he had a hard time opening up and being vulnerable. Just because he is an audience favorite it doesn't guarantee he'll be the next bachelor.

What about the rumors regarding Chris that his family doesn't want him gone during harvest season when the show will be filming

If Nick isn't F1 I think he's still in the running to be the next bachelor :Nod:

I can not see Marquel being the next Bachelor since he was just recently on BIP. I think IF Nick is not the F1, he is being strongly considered for the next Bachelor.

by Mirzam Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:59 pm

If Chris isn't the bachelor, then I don't see any announcement being made at ATFR. Too soon to name Nick, as he is still 'getting over' Andi, and they won't name Marquel as he will be on BIP, and they need to get that out of the way first.

by Guest Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:08 pm

Mirzam wrote:If Chris isn't the bachelor, then I don't see any announcement being made at ATFR. Too soon to name Nick, as he is still 'getting over' Andi, and they won't name Marquel as he will be on BIP, and they need to get that out of the way first.

I thought Nick would be at the MTP because what other drama was there? and if he's in the running for TB they could help his image there. What if the "strange" part was that he was in the hot seat and the guys dismissed what he had said and defended him. That's never happened and would help his image.

Are we positive based on the pic that was tweeted of him that he was not at MTA? What if that person waited to send it? Sorry if I've missed some of the evidence.

by sbolduc Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:10 pm

^^ he was also seen a couple hours later at the LA farmers market at the time the MTA was in the middle of filming I just don't think the timing makes sense for him to be at the filming.

by Guest Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:14 pm

Thanks sbolduc. That is quite the mystery. scratch

by SueSt Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:16 pm

grace8136 wrote:
soccermom333 wrote:
MVMom39forever wrote:

Andi! See the beauty of being a spoiled f2 is you can hide in plain sight.

I have never, ever seen a more blatant love story unfold with both parties all in from ep1 to present with possible exception of Meredith/Ian and to lesser degree Ashley/JP but that only got obvious after BS Bentleystory line faded. I don't know what is in store with next 2 episodes as I avoid watching previews/commercials but I did see screen caps of Andi and Nick making out in secluded ocean ... a classic f1 date.

The ONLY reason that producers could show all this great footage is 1) plane video/rs spoilers and 2)drummed up drama among men ... that seemed to only occur while enduring pressure of Bachelorette bubble as he is friends with vocal Chris, Brian and Dylan plus others post show.

I started season with no favorites and no spoilers and no preconceived notions. Just calling it like I see it. And I can't imagine seeing anyone but Nick in the end.

I respect your opinion, but for me it is just the opposite. Josh and Andi's chemistry is off the charts or me, and something that the producers had to hide and exploit the chemistry she had with others. I also have been watching the show for a long time and can see producer manipulation early on.

Just my opinion.

I was unspoiled until episode 3-4 and thought it was Josh, though Nick's flowers were significant to her. We later found out that tptb hid their first kiss on ep. 3. After Nick's Venice date it started to change for me. She gave him a very important date with the tux/prince stuff. Also, the sneak out kisses were waaaaaaaaay beyond what her job required of her. She continues to make sure he gets a lot of things first, the FIR, the first HTD and now the first FD which will make Hy happy. My only problem is that it is really following exactly what Nick said on the plane video. He told us the story. Obviously, I hope the video is a fake, but I'm not holding out much hope there. For me, the bigger question is wth happened at the end.

The day part of their FD looks amazing. I'm not buying any of the reasons why Nick got that date over Josh. Look at all that time they got with no mics on in the water, not to mention all the closeness that date gives them. She wanted him there just like she wanted him on the date in Venice, him with the fire works after the group date, him sneaking to her room, and him in the ocean with their hands all over each other. Not saying she didn't like Josh. Obviously she did and he would be her expected choice which also fits what Nick said in the video. TPTB are showing us the love story and his video told us the ending. Nick was not delusional and she was probably giving him way more than we even saw all along. He had every right to believe he'd be the F1. (though he should never had talked to the other guys about it)

We don't know if Josh and Andi didn't have long make out sessions or if they just didn't show us, so I'm not sure how Josh fans see him as a clear winner w/o the spoilers. I'm guessing Josh didn't want to go there on camera (understandable) and brought the passion in the FS. That may have changed the ending. It was finally as passionate as it had been all along with Nick. Poor Nick.

Side note- I think Nick might have told her he loved her in the ocean. He wanted to tell her as she was leaving on the HTD and they were without mics in the ocean. The camera crew was pretty far away. It was the most privacy they've had. He was bursting to tell her. She would have been able to tell him her feelings in return. Like Arie said, you can really say anything. If she didn't say it back, it should be a red flag to him. If he says it again at dinner, it may be the second time.

Here's a slight PRO Nick F1 observation- Mamma Murray has twice tweeted/instagrammed about cutting the cord. That's mocking Andi IMO. She's either not going to be ANdi's MIL or she's going to be a difficult one. I have no problem with her concept that's it's not necessary to cut the cord and Andi can just join it, BUT that would be for Josh and Andi to work through and decide and she should shut up. She's either not too bright or not the future MIL. (IMO)

really great post, grace. thanks for sharing.
Interesting analysis of MM.
I love your thought that N&A say ILYs in the water.
Given all support for Nick you indicated, can you imagine ANY scenario where she doesn't choose Nick?? How do you imagine it goes down?

by SueSt Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:18 pm

Hotmomma wrote:I still am wondering why Nick was being filmed with the story board excutive on Thursday and than shows up in LA.just enjoying himself.not at the MTA or appeared to hang out with the guys..Nothing all even g or so far this am..
Andi is there in La quiet since the taping wrapped.when is her next appearance?

Josh is I. Miami with Family still there today.his momma posts a FRC gathering to raise money for the homeless( witch is awesome) and says weather or not he receives the final rose..

I think Nick is there in La to see Amdi..who knows wha is up production sleeve, Maybe there is going to be something big?

I like it hotmomma.... what are you thinking??

by emusha Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:27 pm

Hotmomma wrote:I still am wondering why Nick was being filmed with the story board excutive on Thursday and than shows up in LA.just enjoying himself.not at the MTA or appeared to hang out with the guys..Nothing all even g or so far this am..
Andi is there in La quiet since the taping wrapped.when is her next appearance?

Josh is I. Miami with Family still there today.his momma posts a FRC gathering to raise money for the homeless( witch is awesome) and says weather or not he receives the final rose..

I think Nick is there in La to see Amdi..who knows wha is up production sleeve, Maybe there is going to be something big?

aren't F2's travel plans/whereabouts closely monitored by TPTB? I find it bizarre that Nick would be in LA THIS particular weekend immediately after a filming session with the storyboard producer in Milwakee ....in past seasons they would have all bio footage filmed for all the bachelors before season filming begins and after casting right?? it would make sense that they complete all bio taping to get the guys filmed fresh before their involvement in the show ...seems totally sloppy for them to have to go back to get additional footage. So with this reasoning - the filming this week in Milwakee makes no sense if it's not for footage that feeds into the storyboard of the show, the plot and possibly the ending. The question is what could Nick's whereabouts be for?

the activity on social media is quite curious to me esp beginning from a month ago...I have no doubt there's some level of coaching of Andi to stick with the storyline - like promoting Chris, being aware of audience's favorites etc. not sure Josh's posts make sense to me at all... what could he possibly have to lament about if he's over the moon engaged with a woman he loves...his bro is off to an amazing future and his family (parents are doing well)?? what could josh have possibly prayed about or wished for that he needs to overlook and focus on his blessings...this message is soo consistent that it is just NOT meshing with him as F1 happily engaged for me...

Also this might be a minefield topic but just gonna share what's on my mind....after reading Jill's blog about that specific date I had this nagging thought about why Josh was soooo irritated and angry about the lie detector test...?? Jilly made a very conclusive assertion that he's hiding something... and that thought hasn't really resolved itself for me as I watched that episode back and saw HOW easily he brushed off the issue during the cocktail party and just calmed her down telling her he just wants her to trust him...his words:

"i'm telling her everything i want to tell her and now she's like second guessing and wanting to take a lie detector"
"let's forget about last conversation...." "made me see potential heartbreak" "no not with me...that's not it."

Andi instagram/twitter

June 5

Josh's twitter

Josh Murray
Joel Osteen @JoelOsteen · May 30
Live without excuses. Dwell on what you can do. Shake off self-pity & concentrate on being everything you were created to be.

@jmurbulldog · Jun 10
Stop wishing. Start doing.

@jmurbulldog · Jun 11
'Don't think of the things you didn't get after praying. Think of the countless blessings God gave you without asking.' #Thankful#Blessed

@jmurbulldog · Jun 13
A pretentious, showy life is an empty life; a plain and simple life is a full life. -Rick Warren

@jmurbulldog · Jun 17
He is a wise man who does not grieve for the things which he has not, but rejoices for those which he has. -Epictetus #BeAlwaysGrateful

@jmurbulldog · Jun 24
Man looks at the outward appearance, but The Lord looks at the heart. -1 Samuel 16:7 ... If only we could all do this #challengeourselves

@jmurbulldog · Jul 1
'Lions do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.'

@jmurbulldog · Jul 2
Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the Lord's purpose that prevails. -Proverbs 19:21

@jmurbulldog · Jul 6
A little late night fishing with my best friend #Sabel #MyBaby #UnconditionalLove

@jmurbulldog · Jul 11
“We learn something from everyone who passes through our lives.. Some lessons are painful, some are painless.. but all are priceless.”

tweets that josh has favorited

@JoelOsteen · Jul 9
Don't spend time thinking about what’s wrong with you; instead, focus on what’s right about you.

@MotivationDaiIy · Jul 2
Don't ever change just to impress and please someone. Change because it makes you a better person and it leads you to a better future.'

@_joshcarter · Jul 1
I wonder where God could take us if we were completely honest about our current location! #StartingPoints

@Jesus_Calling · Jun 24
"You were not designed to find total satisfaction in the here-and-now...you were crafted in My image." #JesusLives http://bit.ly/12uuB8k

@JoelOsteen · Jun 18
Quit making excuses, dwelling on what you don’t have or why you can’t do something great. You’ve got everything you need.

@MotivationDaiIy · Jun 18
People will judge you no matter what you do... so you might as well do what you want.

@Jesus_Calling · Jun 17
"So learn to laugh at your troubles . . . and you’ll find that they aren’t nearly so troublesome." #JesusCallingKids http://bit.ly/187JKzf

@MotivationDaiIy · Jun 9
Don't pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a hard one.

@MotivationDaiIy · Jun 5
A person who really wants something will find a way; a person who doesn't will find an excuse.

by Hotmomma Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:36 pm

Maybe they are still writing the story we are going to see at the ATFR?

Emusha. I agree Josh tweets do not sound happy with the ending of the show! He isn't posting pictures of him and Andi like Nick has done either with all his #

I just saw a tweet from Josh to Cody about going to see Arron play at the Chiefs games another odd tweet"

by rosesrREd Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:51 pm

Hotmomma wrote:Maybe they are still writing the story we are going to see at the ATFR?

Emusha. I agree Josh tweets do not sound happy with the ending of the show! He isn't posting pictures of him and Andi like Nick has done either with all his #

I just saw a tweet from Josh to Cody about going to see Arron play at the Chiefs games another odd tweet"

If Nick is not being considered for the next Bachelor and was NOT at the MTA taping, then why was the Bachelor producer and camera crew in Milwaukee this past week?

Again, I believe that either Nick is the F1, or is being promoted as the next Bachelor. There is no other logical reason for the producer and film crew to be in Milwaukee.

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