Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #5

[Guest]

I was just telling someone here that I regret reading RS this season! I am also one that can only see a Nick and Andi love story! In some ways, I feel like I am watching last season again where the spoilers don't add up.

[soccermom333]

So Nick was definitely in LA. But it seems not on the MTA, because he was seen out during the taping. I didn't see him in any of the guys' IG pics so far.
I wonder why he was there?

Andi! See the beauty of being a spoiled f2 is you can hide in plain sight.

I have never, ever seen a more blatant love story unfold with both parties all in from ep1 to present with possible exception of Meredith/Ian and to lesser degree Ashley/JP but that only got obvious after BS Bentleystory line faded. I  don't know what is in store with next 2 episodes as I avoid watching previews/commercials but I did see screen caps of Andi and Nick making out in secluded ocean ... a classic f1 date.

The ONLY reason that producers could show all this great footage is 1) plane video/rs spoilers and 2)drummed up drama among men ... that seemed to  only occur while enduring pressure of Bachelorette bubble as he is friends with vocal Chris, Brian and Dylan plus others post show.

I started season with no favorites and no spoilers and no preconceived notions. Just calling it like I see it. And I can't imagine seeing anyone but Nick in the end.

I respect your opinion, but for me it is just the opposite. Josh and Andi's chemistry is off the charts or me, and something that the producers had to hide and exploit the chemistry she had with others. I also have been watching the show for a long time and can see producer manipulation early on.

Just my opinion.

[sdmom]

SO, Andy in LA taping MTA yesterday. Nick in LA even though he posted a picture of being with his Chicago friends probably to throw us off. Josh in Tempa. The plot thickens!!!  
Initially I thought Nick was in LA possibly in the running for next TB, but chloep said it's between Marquel and Chris. Why or why is Nick in LA for? Watch out, i bet TrickyNicky will post something like he's in Milwaukee now!

[soccermom333]

SO, Andy in LA taping MTA yesterday. Nick in LA even though he posted a picture of  being with his Chicago friends probably to throw us off. Josh in Tempa. The plot thickens!!!  
Initially I thought Nick was in LA possibly in the running for next TB, but chloep said it's between Marquel and Chris. Why or why is Nick in LA for?  Watch out, i bet TrickyNicky will post something like he's in Milwaukee now!

We will find out soon enough.    I am not so sure they aren't looking at Nick to be the bachelor. They can't announce it yet, but I just have a felling he is "in the running." Still lots of time. ;)

[Guest]

Maybe Nick did show up at the MTA

Robert Mills (@Millsy11374) tweeted at 11:17pm - 12 Jul 14:

I can tell you and @RobynRossTVG can confirm, this is one of the strangest #MTA ever (https://twitter.com/Millsy11374/status/488160276097687552)

[nutty1]

He tweeted that fairly early….I think Nick was seen out then.

They always tweet stuff like that during the taping.

[sdmom]

I really don't think Nick was at MTA. He was seen in Venice and then probably Santa Monica late morning/early afternoon. LA traffic is notoriously bad so it's almost impossibly for Nick to make the taping on time. IMO.

[b]

He tweeted that fairly early….I think Nick was seen out then.

They always tweet stuff like that during the taping.

Wasn't he at the Malibu Ale place, from that guy's instagram around 5-6PT. I believe umngirl said they start taping at 3PT.

[rosesrREd]

He tweeted that fairly early….I think Nick was seen out then.

They always tweet stuff like that during the taping.

Wasn't he at the Malibu Ale place, from that guy's instagram around 5-6PT.  I believe umngirl said they start taping at 3PT.

The sightings seem to be later, however, the taping lasts longer than many think. Also, if Nick was at the MTA, he would be hanging out with the guys afterwards, not shopping at the farmers market.

[Cecilia]

I was just telling someone here that I regret reading RS this season! I am also one that can only see a Nick and Andi love story! In some ways, I feel like I am watching last season again where the spoilers don't add up.

Me too. Ruined the season for me actually. I am going to try to go unspoiled next Bachelorette.

[Guest]

So Nick was definitely in LA. But it seems not on the MTA, because he was seen out during the taping. I didn't see him in any of the guys' IG pics so far.
I wonder why he was there?

Andi! See the beauty of being a spoiled f2 is you can hide in plain sight.

I have never, ever seen a more blatant love story unfold with both parties all in from ep1 to present with possible exception of Meredith/Ian and to lesser degree Ashley/JP but that only got obvious after BS Bentleystory line faded. I  don't know what is in store with next 2 episodes as I avoid watching previews/commercials but I did see screen caps of Andi and Nick making out in secluded ocean ... a classic f1 date.

The ONLY reason that producers could show all this great footage is 1) plane video/rs spoilers and 2)drummed up drama among men ... that seemed to  only occur while enduring pressure of Bachelorette bubble as he is friends with vocal Chris, Brian and Dylan plus others post show.

I started season with no favorites and no spoilers and no preconceived notions. Just calling it like I see it. And I can't imagine seeing anyone but Nick in the end.

I respect your opinion, but for me it is just the opposite.  Josh and Andi's chemistry is off the charts or me, and something that the producers had to hide and exploit the chemistry she had with others.   I also have been watching the show for a long time and can see producer manipulation early on.

Just my opinion.  

I was unspoiled until episode 3-4 and thought it was Josh, though Nick's flowers were significant to her. We later found out that tptb hid their first kiss on ep. 3. After Nick's Venice date it started to change for me. She gave him a very important date with the tux/prince stuff. Also, the sneak out kisses were waaaaaaaaay beyond what her job required of her. She continues to make sure he gets a lot of things first, the FIR, the first HTD and now the first FD which will make Hy happy. My only problem is that it is really following exactly what Nick said on the plane video. He told us the story. Obviously, I hope the video is a fake, but I'm not holding out much hope there. For me, the bigger question is wth happened at the end.

The day part of their FD looks amazing. I'm not buying any of the reasons why Nick got that date over Josh. Look at all that time they got with no mics on in the water, not to mention all the closeness that date gives them. She wanted him there just like she wanted him on the date in Venice, him with the fire works after the group date, him sneaking to her room, and him in the ocean with their hands all over each other. Not saying she didn't like Josh. Obviously she did and he would be her expected choice which also fits what Nick said in the video. TPTB are showing us the love story and his video told us the ending. Nick was not delusional and she was probably giving him way more than we even saw all along. He had every right to believe he'd be the F1. (though he should never had talked to the other guys about it)

We don't know if Josh and Andi didn't have long make out sessions or if they just didn't show us, so I'm not sure how Josh fans see him as a clear winner w/o the spoilers. I'm guessing Josh didn't want to go there on camera (understandable) and brought the passion in the FS. That may have changed the ending. It was finally as passionate as it had been all along with Nick. Poor Nick.   

Side note- I think Nick might have told her he loved her in the ocean. He wanted to tell her as she was leaving on the HTD and they were without mics in the ocean. The camera crew was pretty far away. It was the most privacy they've had. He was bursting to tell her. She would have been able to tell him her feelings in return. Like Arie said, you can really say anything. If she didn't say it back, it should be a red flag to him. If he says it again at dinner, it may be the second time.

Here's a slight PRO Nick F1 observation- Mamma Murray has twice tweeted/instagrammed about cutting the cord. That's mocking Andi IMO. She's either not going to be ANdi's MIL or she's going to be a difficult one. I have no problem with her concept that's it's not necessary to cut the cord and Andi can just join it, BUT that would be for Josh and Andi to work through and decide and she should shut up. She's either not too bright or not the future MIL. (IMO)

[Guest]

Andi! See the beauty of being a spoiled f2 is you can hide in plain sight.

I have never, ever seen a more blatant love story unfold with both parties all in from ep1 to present with possible exception of Meredith/Ian and to lesser degree Ashley/JP but that only got obvious after BS Bentleystory line faded. I  don't know what is in store with next 2 episodes as I avoid watching previews/commercials but I did see screen caps of Andi and Nick making out in secluded ocean ... a classic f1 date.

The ONLY reason that producers could show all this great footage is 1) plane video/rs spoilers and 2)drummed up drama among men ... that seemed to  only occur while enduring pressure of Bachelorette bubble as he is friends with vocal Chris, Brian and Dylan plus others post show.

I started season with no favorites and no spoilers and no preconceived notions. Just calling it like I see it. And I can't imagine seeing anyone but Nick in the end.

I respect your opinion, but for me it is just the opposite.  Josh and Andi's chemistry is off the charts or me, and something that the producers had to hide and exploit the chemistry she had with others.   I also have been watching the show for a long time and can see producer manipulation early on.

Just my opinion.  

I was unspoiled until episode 3-4 and thought it was Josh, though Nick's flowers were significant to her. We later found out that tptb hid their first kiss on ep. 3. After Nick's Venice date it started to change for me. She gave him a very important date with the tux/prince stuff. Also, the sneak out kisses were waaaaaaaaay beyond what her job required of her. She continues to make sure he gets a lot of things first, the FIR, the first HTD and now the first FD which will make Hy happy. My only problem is that it is really following exactly what Nick said on the plane video. He told us the story. Obviously, I hope the video is a fake, but I'm not holding out much hope there. For me, the bigger question is wth happened at the end.

The day part of their FD looks amazing. I'm not buying any of the reasons why Nick got that date over Josh. Look at all that time they got with no mics on in the water, not to mention all the closeness that date gives them. She wanted him there just like she wanted him on the date in Venice, him with the fire works after the group date, him sneaking to her room, and him in the ocean with their hands all over each other. Not saying she didn't like Josh. Obviously she did and he would be her expected choice which also fits what Nick said in the video. TPTB are showing us the love story and his video told us the ending. Nick was not delusional and she was probably giving him way more than we even saw all along. He had every right to believe he'd be the F1. (though he should never had talked to the other guys about it)

We don't know if Josh and Andi didn't have long make out sessions or if they just didn't show us, so I'm not sure how Josh fans see him as a clear winner w/o the spoilers. I'm guessing Josh didn't want to go there on camera (understandable) and brought the passion in the FS. That may have changed the ending. It was finally as passionate as it had been all along with Nick. Poor Nick.   

Side note- I think Nick might have told her he loved her in the ocean. He wanted to tell her as she was leaving on the HTD and they were without mics in the ocean. The camera crew was pretty far away. It was the most privacy they've had. He was bursting to tell her. She would have been able to tell him her feelings in return. Like Arie said, you can really say anything. If she didn't say it back, it should be a red flag to him. If he says it again at dinner, it may be the second time.

Here's a slight PRO Nick F1 observation- Mamma Murray has twice tweeted/instagrammed about cutting the cord. That's mocking Andi IMO. She's either not going to be ANdi's MIL or she's going to be a difficult one. I have no problem with her concept that's it's not necessary to cut the cord and Andi can just join it, BUT that would be for Josh and Andi to work through and decide and she should shut up. She's either not too bright or not the future MIL. (IMO)

I love your post especially the bolded. I see great chemistry with Josh. I see a great couple with Andi and Nick. Just my opinion, but they are who I've enjoyed the most. There are so many reasons Nick probably believes he's the one for her. She really has been convincing and I hope it was not all an act. But I can also see she's different with Josh and that she'd pick him. But all her doubts with Josh and attraction to Nick are not just storyline editing to me. The FD with Nick looks hot, and as you said, provides a lot of intimate time without mikes. And her face on Josh's HTD was so expressively not happy - in her talks with mom and dad and at the dinner table, there was concern written all over her face, IMO. Maybe why some slight almost jabs from Josh's mom, that wasn't a glowing, touchy feely edit for an F1's HTD.

And I'm with the posters who regret being spoiled this season. To be honest, I would have no idea between Josh or Nick if just watching. It would be fun to go into the finale with 2 equally viable options and seeing where it went. I usually cave, but will try for no spoilers next season.

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