Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 7 - Jun 30/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Thread #2

[Alanna]

Aren't most F1 hidden/darkhorses. If Josh is F1 why did they make it so obvious?

It's not obvious, there are plenty of people who believe the weekly special preview of things going south for Josh. Next week he loves the brother too much  tptb are scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

[Luvvy]

^^ oy, the lengths they will go through to create doubt are insane

[Luvvy]

Aren't most F1 hidden/darkhorses. If Josh is F1 why did they make it so obvious?

i think right now nick is the obvious and front runner while they're adding doubt to Josh's s/l each week. Josh as f1 is obvious to some because of Andi's reactions and mannerisms around him. I think she's way different with him and lights up giving her feelings away a little bit.

[Guest]

To Kasha's theory... who are they setting up for the next bachelor? That seems to be a sticking point in Josh as F1/Marcus on BIP. I don't see Chris getting a great edit for that spot or enough viewers wanting to watch a girl move to the middle of nowhere. Midwest farm life is not exactly a fantasy come true no matter how much the family farm is worth. Only Marcus and Josh are getting that edit. I don't believe they will go with Marquel, so that leaves me wondering if we could possibly be missing something.

[Kashathediva]

TPTB threw Chris under the bus for promoting him as the next TB by leaving MeandI's words in that preview--"out in the middle of nowhere".  
The words "homemaker" coming out of Chris' mouth were misleading. Who knows what other occupations were attached before or after those that phrase "homemaker". That clip makes the viewer think he wants a wife out in the middle of nowhere, cooking and cleaning. Not a good promo for then next TB imo.
So I would be surprised if Chris was the next TB.

Which would then indicate if Chris is not the next TB-- chalk up another wrong spoiler from RS.

[FLChica]

TPTB threw Chris under the bus for promoting him as the next TB by leaving MeandI's words in that preview--"out in the middle of nowhere".  
The words "homemaker" coming out of Chris' mouth were misleading. Who knows what other occupations were attached before or after those that phrase "homemaker". That clip makes the viewer think he wants a wife out in the middle of nowhere, cooking and cleaning. Not a good promo for then next TB imo.
So I would be surprised if Chris was the next TB.

Which would then indicate if Chris is not the next TB-- chalk up another wrong spoiler from RS.

To steal a line from MeAndi... da** - nailed it! Any thoughts on who they really want?

[Kashathediva]

Chris was another MOT guy. I don't think there were ever more than 3 under consideration(Marcus, Josh and Nick). 
Which ever guy said it twice last night was correct. "They" knew the roses were going to Nick, Josh and Marcus and it was a toss-up between Dylan, Brian and Chris.

[SueSt]

bilolo - if my comments sound "harsh" - I've been told that before - I'm sorry.
I wasn't picking on you ... just using your message to continue with mine.
Because a lot of times it seems that fans of one pole think that by defending another (or liking them) subsequently means that you discredit the fan's favorite. And that's not the case.

When I'm very eager to talk about unfair treatment of Nick, and I say "unfair" ... I mean the treatment that fans of TB, viewers, audience and people who write negative things about him around reserve for this guy who has done no wrong to Andy (the only one that matters) and he hasn't done anything horribly wrong to the guys either.

He didn't insult them, he wasn't lying to them, he wasn't talking behind their backs ... he did no wrong to them either, aside for being in their faces, glowing and giggling about his great connection with Andy - in which he believed (sadly or not) and was confident in ... and that's not a bad thing, unless you are a guy on the other end, insecure about your own connection with Andy, because it's obvious even to you, that there is something missing.

Notice... that Josh wasn't that much involved in the whole "anti-Nick rant" ... apart from the fact that he made some conclusions based on other guys' opinions ... so he practically summed up what they were saying as an outsider ... but he wasn't reacting the same way as others, because differently from others he is more confident about his own connection with Andy and he isn't threatened by Nick's attitude ... actually he even wants to downplay the whole situation and he is advising guys not to give Nick too much credit.

That all said ... the guys' reaction was understandable ... probably even a bit provoked by the producers (because they give them the bone to chew, they initiate a conversation, they ask questions to make guys talk ... and once the cat is out, well it's rolling) ... so I think people shouldn't even judge the other guys for reacting that way and lash on Nick ...

but the viewers ...

oh boy ... sometimes I do believe that the most sensitive, sensible and empathetic people are the ones that go crazy and that society defines them not-normal. Because if the norm is Let's criticize and throw a stone before asking ... well, the majority, and I include myself in it, we act sometimes way too early and without a bit more in-depth thinking. And even that is understandable ... we don't have much time, life is on the fast pace track ... and we make daily decisions who and what we give priority to ...
too bad that too many people tend to dwell on negativity.

great post happy

[Guest]

TPTB threw Chris under the bus for promoting him as the next TB by leaving MeandI's words in that preview--"out in the middle of nowhere".  
The words "homemaker" coming out of Chris' mouth were misleading. Who knows what other occupations were attached before or after those that phrase "homemaker". That clip makes the viewer think he wants a wife out in the middle of nowhere, cooking and cleaning. Not a good promo for then next TB imo.
So I would be surprised if Chris was the next TB.

Which would then indicate if Chris is not the next TB-- chalk up another wrong spoiler from RS.

Yes, but then who is the next TB? It would seem to leave Josh and Marcus?   

[Kashathediva]

TPTB threw Chris under the bus for promoting him as the next TB by leaving MeandI's words in that preview--"out in the middle of nowhere".  
The words "homemaker" coming out of Chris' mouth were misleading. Who knows what other occupations were attached before or after those that phrase "homemaker". That clip makes the viewer think he wants a wife out in the middle of nowhere, cooking and cleaning. Not a good promo for then next TB imo.
So I would be surprised if Chris was the next TB.

Which would then indicate if Chris is not the next TB-- chalk up another wrong spoiler from RS.

Yes, but then who is the next TB? It would seem to leave Josh and Marcus?   

Right until the public threw Marquel's hat into the ring. The public is backing Marquel at this point, but what if Josh is not F1? He has a massive following, too.

[Alanna]

If Josh isn't f1, Andi is showing up on his season to try again and win him over this time

[Kashathediva]

I'm looking at everything being thrown out there at all angles. 
Until we get some further scs--not much else to do.

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