Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 7 - Jun 30/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Thread #2

[Rosepetal]

MOT:matter of time

[livlafluv1]

Goofy:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/655997

Does this clip have a title to it? I'd like to see if it's on youtube for those outside the U.S.A that can't view hulu. Ty!

Thanks for the link. Just watched it 3 times   

[Rolly]

Chris was another MOT guy. I don't think there were ever more than 3 under consideration(Marcus, Josh and Nick). 
Which ever guy said it twice last night was correct. "They" knew the roses were going to Nick, Josh and Marcus and it was a toss-up between Dylan, Brian and Chris.

If Chris was a MOT, why was she so concerned and nervous last night when Chris took her out for a few more kisses?  As she said to him that she's nervous and worried.  Then in an itm, we see her say that she thought that there was a car outside waiting to take him away.  To me, something isn't adding up with her thinking he's a MOT guy.

Andi's job is to bring all the guys along without having anyone bail.  So far she's been successful--you could argue about Eric that it was mutual rather than her telling him to leave, but nobody has flat out left before she was done with them.  She surely must have seen Brooks' dramatic departure and wants to avoid that humiliation for herself.  The possibility seems to be on her mind--producer-planted or not--with her bringing it up again to Marcus this week as well as with Chris S.    Marcus thinking about leaving was before their first one-on-one date and he's made it clear he's not going anywhere now, so why did she bring it up again with him?     The fact that her comments were aired could mean he DOES bail after HTD I suppose, as somebody suggested.

And what is a MOT????

God I love it when I know stuff :Woah-hoo:  because I so seldom do....MOT "matter of time" guy....will be gone soon. I think Rosepetal may have beat me to it.   Now ask something else that I might be able to get...   

[Luvstruck]

Gosh Kasha you are too quick!
Yes if Josh was in Cancun no sighting of Andi than he could have been there for BIP.If so he isn't F1.

And with Nick #'s about Love and being sneaking etc..he sure doesn't sound heartbroken either.
Just to throw this out there.him saying being sneaky for LOVE..who knows about his plane video!.

Still want to see new sc beyond HTD!

All of that could point to someone else being F1 other than Nick and Josh...Marcus went on BIP so it's highly unlikely to be him, that only leaves Chris as a possible F1.  The only other option...did Andi leave alone??

At this point I am routing for Andi and trying to stay open minded. She has said repeatedly she knows what she wants and she is smart enough to figure it out. I really like the "Sweet Six" she picked. That being said, she just needs to bet on the right horse! There is something odd going on with Chris's edit and pointers to him that makes me believe they could spring it on us in tne end that he is her guy. His obstacle is where he lives and if she could be content as a homemaker in Iowa instead of career woman in Atlanta. She did quit her job though and in preview she says she could see herself in his life even though they make that doubtful with her asking him about where she would work and cut off their conversation at his first reply of an opportunity to be a homemaker. Wonder has he been edited to stir intrest in him as next bachelor or is he off the market?

Then again I see her with Josh and am amazed how well they look & fit together. His obstacle is mom says he will never cut the cord of family ties and brother Aaron is the family focus. Social media indicates they may be together as does Spoiler Steve but why was he spotted flying to Cancun while they are filming BIP and where was Andi at that time....hmmm.... Then there is "sensative" Nick with Andi trying to convince him all season that this process works. Is the plane video coincidence on his flight home, set up or not? Was he out at F2 or possibly F3? Some say the only "great love" shown is with him. The only one I know for sure is out is Marcus since he is on BIP. Is she too distraught after Eric dies to choose someone and decides to leave alone. Are we being Fleissed this season?

[ironcat]

If Chris would have bailed, she would have had to take either Dylan or Brian to HTDs and I'm sure that as nice as they both are, she had absolutely zero interest in doing that and getting their hopes (and their families') up even further. Chris was the best option because at least she has some romantic attraction/interest in him, even if it's not anywhere near as strong as with the other 3 finalists.

Regarding Kelly's comments, to me they are so far out there and ludicrous that I can't even take them seriously, and I suspect that Nick didn't either. And yeah, she never actually said that Nick was a pedophile (and I'm sure she knows the meaning of the word). Was there this much outrage when people on boards were speculating that JP was a wife beater, which was another ridiculous claim?

[sdmom]

Here's the thing: if Kelly is such good friends with Andi and is saying those things on Twitter about Nick with Andi right next to her, it makes me think that the Nick video was real.

Kelly's comments could be Andi's payback/defense since Andi can't speak her mind about Nick's plane comments just yet. I'm sure she was hurt by them. Just my thinking.

I understand Andi maybe angry at Nick and thats ok. But to the point Kelly said Nick may be bipolar? Calling him, or any other guy, pedophile? I would fight at any cost against Kelly if she made such comments about my son. If Andi thinks that's proper payback/defense then I seriously doubt her characters. She is the one to tell people Stay Classy.

[stuckinsc]

If Chris would have bailed, she would have had to take either Dylan or Brian to HTDs and I'm sure that as nice as they both are, she had absolutely zero interest in doing that and getting their hopes (and their families') up even further.  Chris was the best option because at least she has some romantic attraction/interest in him, even if it's not anywhere near as strong as with the other 3 finalists.

Regarding Kelly's comments, to me they are so far out there and ludicrous that I can't even take them seriously, and I suspect that Nick didn't either.  And yeah, she never actually said that Nick was a pedophile (and I'm sure she knows the meaning of the word).  Was there this much outrage when people on boards were speculating that JP was a wife beater, which was another ridiculous claim?

I posted last night and today that Nick's edit last night very much reminded me of JP. It disgusted me when people said that about JP and this disgusts me. I like sarcasm, but there are lines that are just too much to cross. Pedophile and bipolar being two of them. I was just reminded of my sister as she and Marcus shared a birthday. She was bipolar and eventually killed herself. It is a serious disease, and so not something to joke about. To me those tweets showed a true lack of class.

I have been a very big Kelly fan, so this is not coming from someone who disliked her. Her comments during JPG's season were some of the best parts of the whole season.

This is also not the first time she and Andi have been a little classless on twitter. Kelly was part of the Andi "Ess Okay" tweet during JPG's season.

It is always fun to make fun of people for things they can't control right? Not my style. I prefer to mock people for the things they can control.

[Rolly]

If Chris would have bailed, she would have had to take either Dylan or Brian to HTDs and I'm sure that as nice as they both are, she had absolutely zero interest in doing that and getting their hopes (and their families') up even further.  Chris was the best option because at least she has some romantic attraction/interest in him, even if it's not anywhere near as strong as with the other 3 finalists.

Regarding Kelly's comments, to me they are so far out there and ludicrous that I can't even take them seriously, and I suspect that Nick didn't either.  And yeah, she never actually said that Nick was a pedophile (and I'm sure she knows the meaning of the word).  Was there this much outrage when people on boards were speculating that JP was a wife beater, which was another ridiculous claim?

I posted last night and today that Nick's edit last night very much reminded me of JP.  It disgusted me when people said that about JP and this disgusts me.  I like sarcasm, but there are lines that are just too much to cross.  Pedophile and bipolar being two of them.  I was just reminded of my sister as she and Marcus shared a birthday.  She was bipolar and eventually killed herself.  It is a serious disease, and so not something to joke about.  To me those tweets showed a true lack of class.

I have been a very big Kelly fan, so this is not coming from someone who disliked her.  Her comments during JPG's season were some of the best parts of the whole season.

This is also not the first time she and Andi have been a little classless on twitter.  Kelly was part of the Andi "Ess Okay" tweet during JPG's season.

It is always fun to make fun of people for things they can't control right?  Not my style.  I prefer to mock people for the things they can control.

Stuckinsc, I'm so sorry about your sister. Kelly's comments were heartless and just shows how little she knows about mental health conditions. I too had a mother that was bipolar and totally consumed her life and ours. I also didn't like some comments that were made yesterday about Marcus' family and how that was the red flag that would make Andi not choose him. That too is something that someone does not have control over. Maybe because it also for me hits close to home with my dysfunctional family....will people not like a person because of the family they come from? Will Andi pick someone else because their family is "perfect"? If there ever was such a thing.

[stuckinsc]

If Chris would have bailed, she would have had to take either Dylan or Brian to HTDs and I'm sure that as nice as they both are, she had absolutely zero interest in doing that and getting their hopes (and their families') up even further.  Chris was the best option because at least she has some romantic attraction/interest in him, even if it's not anywhere near as strong as with the other 3 finalists.

Regarding Kelly's comments, to me they are so far out there and ludicrous that I can't even take them seriously, and I suspect that Nick didn't either.  And yeah, she never actually said that Nick was a pedophile (and I'm sure she knows the meaning of the word).  Was there this much outrage when people on boards were speculating that JP was a wife beater, which was another ridiculous claim?

I posted last night and today that Nick's edit last night very much reminded me of JP.  It disgusted me when people said that about JP and this disgusts me.  I like sarcasm, but there are lines that are just too much to cross.  Pedophile and bipolar being two of them.  I was just reminded of my sister as she and Marcus shared a birthday.  She was bipolar and eventually killed herself.  It is a serious disease, and so not something to joke about.  To me those tweets showed a true lack of class.

I have been a very big Kelly fan, so this is not coming from someone who disliked her.  Her comments during JPG's season were some of the best parts of the whole season.

This is also not the first time she and Andi have been a little classless on twitter.  Kelly was part of the Andi "Ess Okay" tweet during JPG's season.

It is always fun to make fun of people for things they can't control right?  Not my style.  I prefer to mock people for the things they can control.

Stuckinsc, I'm so sorry about your sister. Kelly's comments were heartless and just shows how little she knows about mental health conditions. I too had a mother that was bipolar and totally consumed her life and ours. I also didn't like some comments that were made yesterday about Marcus' family and how that was the red flag that would make Andi not choose him. That too is something that someone does not have control over. Maybe because it also for me hits close to home with my dysfunctional family....will people not like a person because of the family they come from?  Will Andi pick someone else because their family is "perfect"? If there ever was such a thing.

Rolly, thank you.  It has been 13 years since my sister passed, but her whole life was a challenge.  I have friends who are also bipolar, I think my family history makes me better able to deal with it.  But it is real and serious and as you know is incredibly hard on the family too.  People who make fun of mental illness to me are the lowest of low.  It isn't funny.  I study the brain, only stroke, but I have been to enough talks about depression and other brain imbalances, that it is just tragic how little we know to try to help those who suffer the worst.

Totally agree, those experiences for Marcus make him the loving, sweet man he is.  They are also why at 25 he is as mature as the guys in their 30s that he is now left to compete with.

If Andi won't chose him because of that, it truly is her lose.  The episode synopsis makes me think that for Andi with Marcus it never got past the physical.  Not his fault.  I think Andi was too busy emotionally trying to connect to Josh and Nick to have time for anyone else on the level

[sdmom]

^^Thank you stuck and rolly for sharing!   

[umngirl]

I don't understand why it reflects so much on Andi by what Kelly tweets. She can say whatever she wants as it's HER account. Kelly may not have tweeted the most appropriate thing but it's not on Andi to police her friends' comments.

[soccermom333]

I don't understand why it reflects so much on Andi by what Kelly tweets. She can say whatever she wants as it's HER account. Kelly may not have tweeted the most appropriate thing but it's not on Andi to police her friends' comments.

Well said.    If someone is unhappy with Kelly, they need to contact her, not Andi.

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