Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - MTP-LCD-FRC- July 28/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Kimmel also asked them how many children does Andi want. Josh said 4 and Andi said 4++++ or as many as I will give him. I guess she's calling all the shots ...   I think feel a headache coming on tonight. LOL

chloep wrote:I HAVE to say there is still a good chance there is some sour grapes included in the rumor.... So take it with a grain of salt. But you can't tell me it wasn't spot on mostly...  :hidingchair 

Seems pretty spot on, but for the 'poor Nick stuff'. I don't feel much for him at all as I didn't for Ben.

I'm pretty sure that the plane video was Nick's undoing. With TPTB and with Andi.
She was angry over what he said and maybe, in a way wanted to punish him for it getting out on the internet for everyone to see.
We don't know what she said to him when he asked to talk to her before. She may have tried to let him down and say she was happy and didn't want to talk to him.
He appeared to be hurting: he was shaking throughout the interview, but bringing up the sex in the FS was classless. He could have said that she said and did things that made him feel that she loved him without being specific. It was flatout a rotten thing to do on national TV when her parents and grandparents were watching. He also had to know about the Murray viewing party and seemed to want to let them know too.
He could have handled it much better.
As far as Andi and Josh having met before, it didn't seem to be a big thing. He was casting for the Bachelor and saw her at a club. They both say the didn't speak.
I am not pro-Nick or Josh, I watch for the love story and they are in love.

I know right? I think this is what prompted me to tread carefully and watch. Hmmm....

quietpal wrote:

MiaHawk wrote:She knew Nick loved her.  She knew Nick wanted to marry her.  He told her both things multiple times.  There is no shade of grey.  She had sex with him knowing that he would be blindsided by her rejection, and then she couldn't give him the courtesy of showing him any compassion at all.  I mean, she was silent, cold, and offered him nothing.  So he asked, If you didn't love me, why did you make love with me?  Seems like if the roles were reversed and a girl had been used for sex and confronted the male lead that many of you might see this differently. Double standard.  Women got cheered for speakingrup about JPG being crude, self absorbed, and for what he said and did to Clare.  People clapped for that.  Now a guy speaks up about being used in the FS and nobody sees that as wrong?

With the bold, Ita. That's why I sometimes I root for the guy because in relationships, no matter what goes on, some people (not all) tend to root for the woman no matter what.
Maybe Nick shouldn't have said what he said, but I don't think he was calculated in saying it. Just wanted answers. Jmo
Now it all makes sense (at least to me) why tptb had to treat Nick the way they did. Not only because of the plane video, but also the fact that the two lovebirds at least knew of each other before the show. This season would have been so boring and there would be nothing to talk about.

Disagree. Clare kept quiet about it for a reason. She knows she would have been called a slut, that she shouldn't bring it up. Blah, blah, blah. So, she didn't and still got bashed for it.

soccermom333 wrote:

luvlady345 wrote:YAY!!!!! Josh and Andi look awesome together and so in love!!!!!!!  

They were adorable on Jimmy Kimmel and the biggest thing i learned is andi wants 4 kids or as many as she can give Josh!  I am happy for them.  

Oh puleeeze. After the first stretch mark she'll be done.

atem wrote:

chloep wrote:I HAVE to say there is still a good chance there is some sour grapes included in the rumor.... So take it with a grain of salt. But you can't tell me it wasn't spot on mostly...  :hidingchair 

Seems pretty spot on, but for the 'poor Nick stuff'.  I don't feel much for him at all as I didn't for Ben.

watching a person's body language and how their hurt and emotions are evident in their body makes a clear difference...nick is hurting and his worst those who are not fans who are clearly not fans will admit that....however they might be interested in labeling it - nick is deeply hurting.

MiaHawk wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

luvlady345 wrote:YAY!!!!! Josh and Andi look awesome together and so in love!!!!!!!  

They were adorable on Jimmy Kimmel and the biggest thing i learned is andi wants 4 kids or as many as she can give Josh!  I am happy for them.  

Oh puleeeze.  After the first stretch mark she'll be done.

Plus, if they have kids, that means 100% of Josh's attention won't be on her anymore. Which you just know that she won't stand for.

emusha wrote:

atem wrote:

chloep wrote:I HAVE to say there is still a good chance there is some sour grapes included in the rumor.... So take it with a grain of salt. But you can't tell me it wasn't spot on mostly...  :hidingchair 

Seems pretty spot on, but for the 'poor Nick stuff'.  I don't feel much for him at all as I didn't for Ben.

watching a person's body language and how their hurt and emotions are evident in their body makes a clear difference...nick is hurting and his worst those who are not fans who are clearly not fans will admit that....however they might be interested in labeling it - nick is deeply hurting.

Yeah…plus, hadn't Ben already hooked up with a bunch of people by the ATFR? I'm not saying that Ben wasn't led on, but I seriously doubt that he was as hurt by Ashley sleeping with him and that he was holding on to the rejection for months afterwards.

viallnicholas28
Congratulations to @AndiDorfman and @jmurbulldog on their engagement. Wishing you both incredible happiness. #TheBachelorette #Bachelorette

WOW okay I just finished watching the ATFR.

I have mixed emotions about Nick bringing up the FS. On one hand I really didn't like that he brought it up. On the other hand I felt like he was fighting it the whole time he was up there to not say something, and I feel like this was the one main thing he needed to ask.

Had Andi met with him during MTA taping on camera I bet you any money he asks the same question and it doesn't make it to air. But Andi didn't give him any other choice.

Also, I agree with others Andi seemed completely cold to Nick when she came out. I like Andi but I did not like that Andi at all. Nick was shaking non-stop and was on the verge of tears the whole time, and she couldn't give him a genuine response or even acknowledge the things she did or said about him.

I don't like that Nick brought it up on national television, but I also think he had a right to ask the question. He gave her the opportunity to talk about it more privately but she declined him that right, doesn't mean he didn't need the answers to the same questions.

melanie1 wrote:viallnicholas28
Congratulations to @AndiDorfman and @jmurbulldog on their engagement. Wishing you both incredible happiness. #TheBachelorette #Bachelorette

sure you do Nick..