Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - Men Tell All - July 21/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

soccermom333 wrote:Its already been reported Andi and her final 1 took a trip to mexico for a secret visit.  ;)

How reliable is L&S though?

2observe wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Nick's edit had made him out to be a bad guy. Anyone who follows him, knows what a good guy he really is. We have seen it many times before, some are really villains, but for the most part, after their season ends, we can see they were really good people.

He has posted some nice pics of him and Andi, and has continued to support the show. Whether he's heartbroken or not, he has shown maturity and has been humble post show.

If he's not the F1, I think he'll show his true personality during the ATFR when he is questioned by CH.

. ITA.  What I find interesting is that Nick gave a shout out on twitter for the girl that submitted his name for the Show.  I just don't see him doing that if he wasn't F1.  Jmo

Yes!! And he says #incredibleexperience. And he's lying there with in her in her wedding dress (shout-out anyone???)
Andi also met this woman, Nick's BF on Nick's HTD... so maybe it's a shout-out from both of them.   

Sarah_XV wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:Its already been reported Andi and her final 1 took a trip to mexico for a secret visit.  ;)

How reliable is L&S though?

But when you put this with all the other clues for Josh as final 1.... yellow ribbon, SM-(and there is a ton, too much to list), snap chat, the edit etc. etc. I can conclude that he is final 1 imho ;)

soccermom333 wrote:

Sarah_XV wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:Its already been reported Andi and her final 1 took a trip to mexico for a secret visit.  ;)

How reliable is L&S though?

But when you put this with all the other clues for Josh as final 1.... yellow ribbon, SM-(and there is a ton, too much to list), snap chat, the edit etc. etc.  I can conclude that he is final 1 imho  ;)

In Josh's thread we have a list of clues that takes up almost an entire page. How can everything be a foiler? Once again, jmo.

2observe wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Nick's edit had made him out to be a bad guy. Anyone who follows him, knows what a good guy he really is. We have seen it many times before, some are really villains, but for the most part, after their season ends, we can see they were really good people.

He has posted some nice pics of him and Andi, and has continued to support the show. Whether he's heartbroken or not, he has shown maturity and has been humble post show.

If he's not the F1, I think he'll show his true personality during the ATFR when he is questioned by CH.

. ITA.  Why I find interesting is that Nick gave a shout out on twitter for the girl that submitted his name for the Show.  I just don't see him doing that if he wasn't F1.  Jmo

It's entirely possible, but I thought it carried a bit of sarcasm.  Nick could also be thankful for the chance it gave him to travel, form new friendships with many of the other contestants, personal growth and new business opportunities.  He seems very happy post show, so that's all that matters.

As to the reliability of L&S, it isn't when we don't like the nonsense being spewed.  I suppose "selectively reliable" is a good description.

FLChica wrote:
As to the reliability of L&S, it isn't when we don't like the nonsense being spewed.  I suppose "selectively reliable" is a good description.

IA- there are those who speculate Josh was in Mexico for TB or those that choose to believe he was there for a secret SH meeting. If feels good to be selective.   

As far as the MTA, we know the F2 weren't there, Josh in Tampa, no definite proof of where Nick was, and spoiled F3 was there according to the proof of pics.

Did the MTA have a live audience?

Okay, I am going to chime in here on this.  I think that Nick is a very smart guy who knows the spoilers, and he is aware that RS had even said, before the season began airing, that his good friend Chris was the next Bachelor.  And, his good friend Marquel has received a lot of fan support as well, which could mean either of them could get the job.

How do we know that Nick is even interested in the being the next Bachelor?  What about his job, which is with a very reputable company?  Would he risk that in order to be next Bachelor?  Wouldn't his career be more important to him than the small chance that he would even end up finding the right woman on this show?  Wouldn't he be away from his job for even longer period of time if he did the Bachelor?

I just don't see things lining up for Nick to be the next Bachelor.  He would end up being their second or third choice anyway, if we are to believe what we are hearing.  I also don't think that the timing for this bodes well for Nick being considered as the next Bachelor.  I agree that it is too early, because they would need to do some major PR campaign to clean up Nick's image - with those people on SM who are hating on him and those who just watch unspoiled and believe every thing that they see as the gospel truth.

SO, I agree with Emusha that that sighting of Nick and TB producer has nothing to do with him being the next Bachelor.  One possibility is this.  What if Nick already has all the closure that he needs now, after watching the show, and he does not need nor want to talk to Andi at the AFTR?  He could do like Clare did with JPG and come out and do his closing interview with CH but say that he wishes Andi and Josh much happiness - however, but does not have any questions for Andi that he needs answered.  He could go on to say that he has no regrets and is glad that he did the show.  He could even say that it was a good experience for him, for which he is grateful. He put it all out there....no regrets, no looking back.  

I personally would rather see this ending for Nick, rather than him being the next Bachelor.

I'm putting it in writing that I think JJ does something big at the MTA... Maybe weird like mills said but he is the instigator of something!

Longhornfan wrote:Okay, I am going to chime in here on this.  I think that Nick is a very smart guy who knows the spoilers, and he is aware that RS had even said, before the season began airing, that his good friend Chris was the next Bachelor.  And, his good friend Marquel has received a lot of fan support as well, which could mean either of them could get the job.

How do we know that Nick is even interested in the being the next Bachelor?  What about his job, which is with a very reputable company?  Would he risk that in order to be next Bachelor?  Wouldn't his career be more important to him than the small chance that he would even end up finding the right woman on this show?  Wouldn't he be away from his job for even longer period of time if he did the Bachelor?

I just don't see things lining up for Nick to be the next Bachelor.  He would end up being their second or third choice anyway, if we are to believe what we are hearing.  I also don't think that the timing for this bodes well for Nick being considered as the next Bachelor.  I agree that it is too early, because they would need to do some major PR campaign to clean up Nick's image - with those people on SM who are hating on him and those who just watch unspoiled and believe every thing that they see as the gospel truth.

SO, I agree with Emusha that that sighting of Nick and TB producer has nothing to do with him being the next Bachelor.  One possibility is this.  What if Nick already has all the closure that he needs now, after watching the show, and he does not need nor want to talk to Andi at the AFTR?  He could do like Clare did with JPG and come out and do his closing interview with CH but say that he wishes Andi and Josh much happiness - however, but does not have any questions for Andi that he needs answered.  He could go on to say that he has no regrets and is glad that he did the show.  He could even say that it was a good experience for him, for which he is grateful.  He put it all out there....no regrets, no looking back.  

I personally would rather see this ending for Nick, rather than him being the next Bachelor.

good points, Longhorn.
I don't think that Nick is F2, but if he was, this would be a very graceful way to handle AFTR.

emad0722 wrote:I'm putting it in writing that I think JJ does something big at the MTA... Maybe weird like mills said but he is the instigator of something!

Interesting emad... I likey... what could it be??
Well we know he was really good friend with Nick... so maybe he'll be sticking up for him with the guys???

Longhornfan wrote:Okay, I am going to chime in here on this.  I think that Nick is a very smart guy who knows the spoilers, and he is aware that RS had even said, before the season began airing, that his good friend Chris was the next Bachelor.  And, his good friend Marquel has received a lot of fan support as well, which could mean either of them could get the job.

How do we know that Nick is even interested in the being the next Bachelor?  What about his job, which is with a very reputable company?  Would he risk that in order to be next Bachelor?  Wouldn't his career be more important to him than the small chance that he would even end up finding the right woman on this show?  Wouldn't he be away from his job for even longer period of time if he did the Bachelor?

I just don't see things lining up for Nick to be the next Bachelor.  He would end up being their second or third choice anyway, if we are to believe what we are hearing.  I also don't think that the timing for this bodes well for Nick being considered as the next Bachelor.  I agree that it is too early, because they would need to do some major PR campaign to clean up Nick's image - with those people on SM who are hating on him and those who just watch unspoiled and believe every thing that they see as the gospel truth.

SO, I agree with Emusha that that sighting of Nick and TB producer has nothing to do with him being the next Bachelor.  One possibility is this.  What if Nick already has all the closure that he needs now, after watching the show, and he does not need nor want to talk to Andi at the AFTR?  He could do like Clare did with JPG and come out and do his closing interview with CH but say that he wishes Andi and Josh much happiness - however, but does not have any questions for Andi that he needs answered.  He could go on to say that he has no regrets and is glad that he did the show.  He could even say that it was a good experience for him, for which he is grateful.  He put it all out there....no regrets, no looking back.  

I personally would rather see this ending for Nick, rather than him being the next Bachelor.

Very good post, Longhornfan! Can you repost this in Nick discussion thread?
Per the bolded: my questions: Will TPTB allow him not showing up AFTR? Also, isn't it a bit early to shoot for AFTR?
Even if what you said is true, it still doesn't explain why he's in LA last weekend. Unless he was there for personal reasons and decided to mess up with us! Remember this is TrickyNicky we are talking about!

I thought there was no reunion for BIP scheduled as of RIGHT NOW? As in that could change...