Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 9 - Fantasy Dates - July 14/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Hotmomma wrote:Do you think Josh just talked about himself all night? Maybe he didn't ask her any questions? And durning the FS she sent him home?.

Just throwing things out there..that is IF the spoilers are wrong.

But I do believe it's Chris that might not make It to the FS.

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

Hotmomma wrote:Do you think Josh just talked about himself all night? Maybe he didn't ask her any questions? And durning the FS she sent him home?.

Just throwing things out there..that is IF the spoilers are wrong.

But I do believe it's Chris that might not make It to the FS.

Maybe he talked about missing out on his baseball career all night.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Do you think Josh just talked about himself all night? Maybe he didn't ask her any questions? And durning the FS she sent him home?.

Just throwing things out there..that is IF the spoilers are wrong.

But I do believe it's Chris that might not make It to the FS.

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

Josh's talking, from the moment he stepped out of the limo, sounded like a fast talking car salesman trying to sell a lemon, or like someone caught in the cookie jar and trying to fast talk his way out of being punished.

stuckinsc wrote:

nutty1 wrote:

pander3575 wrote:Or a new twist SHE wanted to watch Aaron on a DVD.

     

There's the twist….she picks none of the F3….she picks Aaron instead!!

Not to be mean, but Kacie is way hotter than Andi!

  

GuardianAngel wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Do you think Josh just talked about himself all night? Maybe he didn't ask her any questions? And durning the FS she sent him home?.

Just throwing things out there..that is IF the spoilers are wrong.

But I do believe it's Chris that might not make It to the FS.

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

I have said this all along, GA.  Josh says what he "thinks" she wants to hear.  When Andi would point out something that bothers her about men, and dating, he would always say "I would never do that."  

I am still disturbed about the "haven't dated in 5 years" statement.  Yet, we are supposed to believe he quit baseball to start a family, but hasn't made an effort in 5 years to start that family.  

I don't think he is a bad guy at all, but sends out tons of relationship red flags. IF he is the F1, I don't think the relationship will survive very long.

rosesrREd wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Do you think Josh just talked about himself all night? Maybe he didn't ask her any questions? And durning the FS she sent him home?.

Just throwing things out there..that is IF the spoilers are wrong.

But I do believe it's Chris that might not make It to the FS.

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

I have said this all along, GA.  Josh says what he "thinks" she wants to hear.  When Andi would point out something that bothers her about men, and dating, he would always say "I would never do that."  

I am still disturbed about the "haven't dated in 5 years" statement.  Yet, we are supposed to believe he quit baseball to start a family, but hasn't made an effort in 5 years to start that family.  

I don't think he is a bad guy at all, but sends out tons of relationship red flags. IF he is the F1, I don't think the relationship will survive very long.

He's sending out a ton of relationship red flags? I don't get that? My brother is 27 and up until the age of 25, he didn't really have many serious girlfriends, but he's been dating this one girl for two years and he knows she's it for him. You don't need to have many relationships to know what you want out of a partner or life. Also, don't you think jumping out of one long term relationship and right into another and getting engaged to that person to get over the previous girl from the other relationship is a bit of a red flag? Because that's exactly what Nick did. All people are different, but I sure as heck wouldn't get out of a relationship that lasted over five years, hop right into another relationship and get engaged to someone to just get over my ex, but I guess all people are different.

The nightmare:
Accidentally Nick and Josh meet up during down time--while MeandI is away with Chris for his FD.
They have a re-match basketball game. Tied, if you can believe it. So they play a couple games of HORSE. Josh wins the first game. Nick wins the second. Josh is wearing his lucky scarf and Nick is wearing his lucky polka dot socks. Of course---that is all either is wearing! (and sunscreen spf +50 of course!)

Tired from the Dominican heat and humidity, they decide to down a few brewskies at the bar. They talk about their past athletic prowess. Then they talk about their jobs, one in finance and the other in sales. They talk about how lame the mime date and interrogation dates were. They talk about how hot Marcus is. They talk about who got see more side boob in Meandi's fashion misses and who got more frowning duck face. They talk about how short Chris Harrison is. They talk about Elan's hair actually being a bad set of extensions.
They realize after a couple months together they have more in common with each other than they ever did with MeandI. 

The next day Josh has his FD. He has so much fun in town playing baseball with the kids and giving Meandi just enough attention to avoid her mean frowning duck face, but realizes how much he misses Nick. 
Meanwhile, Nick is moping in his room alone. He is sad even though he bought himself a brand new pr. of Punta Cana polka dot socks at the gift shop.
Josh and Meandi go to the dinner portion of the date. MeandI offers Josh the FS card. Josh confesses he would love to go to the suite with MeandI, but his heart belongs to another. Meandi makes her famous face and actually quacks, then realizes she laid an egg. 
She goes back to her room alone to think.


She realizes she can't share. It's got to be all MeandI, all the time and sends the guys home.

Meandi goes back to her room. Alone. She cries for an interminable 2 and a half minutes and then calls Chris B and asks him if he still has her roses.

 source photo: http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bachelorette-crasher-chris-bukowski-explains-attempt-to-meet-andi-2014205


photo source: 
http://www.sarahtitle.com/2014/05/21/here-we-go-again-bachelorette-episode-1/

rosesrREd wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Do you think Josh just talked about himself all night? Maybe he didn't ask her any questions? And durning the FS she sent him home?.

Just throwing things out there..that is IF the spoilers are wrong.

But I do believe it's Chris that might not make It to the FS.

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

I have said this all along, GA.  Josh says what he "thinks" she wants to hear.  When Andi would point out something that bothers her about men, and dating, he would always say "I would never do that."  

I am still disturbed about the "haven't dated in 5 years" statement.  Yet, we are supposed to believe he quit baseball to start a family, but hasn't made an effort in 5 years to start that family.  

I don't think he is a bad guy at all, but sends out tons of relationship red flags. IF he is the F1, I don't think the relationship will survive very long.

When it comes to relationships are own personal experiences influence our view of things. I don't understand how people would think not having a relationship for 5 years is a red flag. I think a big red flag would be someone that has had a 5 year relationship and calling it quits. Everyone can have their own opinion but I remember a lot of people saying the same thing about JP & Ashley and look at them.

Ash2214 wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

I have said this all along, GA.  Josh says what he "thinks" she wants to hear.  When Andi would point out something that bothers her about men, and dating, he would always say "I would never do that."  

I am still disturbed about the "haven't dated in 5 years" statement.  Yet, we are supposed to believe he quit baseball to start a family, but hasn't made an effort in 5 years to start that family.  

I don't think he is a bad guy at all, but sends out tons of relationship red flags. IF he is the F1, I don't think the relationship will survive very long.

He's sending out a ton of relationship red flags? I don't get that? My brother is 27 and up until the age of 25, he didn't really have many serious girlfriends, but he's been dating this one girl for two years and he knows she's it for him. You don't need to have many relationships to know what you want out of a partner or life. Also, don't you think jumping out of one long term relationship and right into another and getting engaged to that person to get over the previous girl from the other relationship is a bit of a red flag? Because that's exactly what Nick did. All people are different, but I sure as heck wouldn't get out of a relationship that lasted over five years, hop right into another relationship and get engaged to someone to just get over my ex, but I guess all people are different.

I think that Josh is discriminating. Yes, he wanted to get married at a young age, but he said during his Marseilles dinner date with Andi (when answering why he hadn't dated in 5 years) that the next time he says ILY it would be to the woman he wants to marry and that if there isn't anything there then you just need to move on. Putting that all together I would say that he wants to get married; isn't desperate, won't "settle";' isn't going to lead girls on by dating with no serious intentions and so hasn't dated. Now he has found someone who he can see potential with in terms of marriage. His family haven't seen him with anyone in years and his mom says she's never seen him like this with anyone. Good for him and in no way a red flag IMO, just a nice guy who wants a marriage to the right woman for him.

^ Well said, Relalou. Although, I'm confused by the discriminating part haha.

Relalou wrote:

I think that Josh is discriminating.  Yes, he wanted to get married at a young age, but he said during his Marseilles dinner date with Andi (when answering why he hadn't dated in 5 years) that the next time he says ILY it would be to the woman he wants to marry and that if there isn't anything there then you just need to move on.  Putting that all together I would say that he wants to get married; isn't desperate, won't "settle";' isn't going to lead  girls on by dating with no serious intentions and so hasn't dated.  Now he has found someone who he can see potential with in terms of marriage.  His family haven't seen him with anyone in years and his mom says she's never seen him like this with anyone.  Good for him and in no way a red flag IMO, just a nice guy who wants a marriage to the right woman for him.

Yep. ITA. Plus JP also had these "issues" that we debated endlessly and he seemed to have figured out marriage and a relationship ok somehow. Josh is just looking for the right woman, how JP said "IT is there" with Ash, and the way he is with Andi and the fact that even his mother noticed, I think he's found her.

4health wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

I think they make a great looking couple if he's the F1. However, I find he talks way to fast, too much and scrambles with his conversations. He's all over the place depending on Andi's facial reaction or response. She barely responds with one word and he's already talking again as if he wants to say what she wants to hear.  

So yes, I can see him talk talk talk, trying to say all the right things all night long. That will be a nightmare, just like JPG's FS. The word nightmare was used all over the media the day after her FS with JPG.

I have said this all along, GA.  Josh says what he "thinks" she wants to hear.  When Andi would point out something that bothers her about men, and dating, he would always say "I would never do that."  

I am still disturbed about the "haven't dated in 5 years" statement.  Yet, we are supposed to believe he quit baseball to start a family, but hasn't made an effort in 5 years to start that family.  

I don't think he is a bad guy at all, but sends out tons of relationship red flags. IF he is the F1, I don't think the relationship will survive very long.

When it comes to relationships are own personal experiences influence our view of things.  I don't understand how people would think not having a relationship for 5 years is a red flag.  I think a big red flag would be someone that has had a 5 year relationship and calling it quits.   Everyone can have their own opinion but I remember a lot of people saying the same thing about JP & Ashley and look at them.  

4health I too remember the red flags everyone was talking about with JP and Ashley!!! She is into Josh and no way she sends him home or they just "talk" all night!! ;)