Re: Bachelorette 10 - Facebook - Twitter - Updates - Discussion * Sleuthing *Spoilers* Thread #2

[Luvvy]

Alanna--
Very blatant indeed. I see the clues on both sides. But what is the smoking gun in my head is Andi favoriting the tweet that said Josh is the one. Josh is perfect. Case closed! I didn't see her favoriting any tweets like that about Nick.
Josh Clues

[philphan]

I take Andi's liking of specific tweets with a grain of salt. Would she really want to be so obvious so close to the end? Makes no sense.
If this show was a debate, each team could make a compelling argument as to who the winner is.

Nicely done TPTB!

IMO, Andi has been extremely obvious from the beginning through SM as to who is F1. Neither she, nor her best friend, nor the F1 family have bothered to hold back one bit.

Most compelling ending is how Chris describes the finale this season.

Seriously....unless someone on this board physically saw the FRC, how do we know who is the F1????

[laurentx]

No offense to anyone, but the Murrays are very media savy.  While all of Atlanta, Athens and Tampa "know" that Josh is F1, I don't see the Murrays or Josh being stupid enough to let that slip.

Perhaps it was allowed more because of the plane video, but it would still be weird that Josh is allowed to tell that many people.  The video was a mistake if not a set up.  Telling anyone outside of family is directly, on purpose breaking the contract.

Josh is too smart for that.

IA the Murray's are media savvy, however Josh has told his closest friends and unfortunately they have loose lips. All it took was one of those buddies to slip, and that's how it spreads like wildfire.

BTW, I don't know how they can hold anyone to one of those contracts. You don't have to "tell" anyone anything, you can convey what you want simply by an expression.

[cindebugg]

stuck, I agree with you that if Josh is F2 a viewing party would be a perfect way to let "the world" know that Josh is ready to move on and be the next Bachelor. It needs to be clear to the audience that Josh is over Andi and that his heart has healed.

As of right now, I lean toward Josh being F1, but I would hardly be surprised if Andi chooses Nick. There's something real going on there, too. She has two great guys to choose from...lucky girl.

I disagree. There hasn't been anything "real" between them since week 5. Week 5 was the week that changed everything IMO. She had her 1 on 1 with Josh where her walls came tumbling down and she started getting some bad vibes about Nick and his behavior. Week 6 which she described as an "OK" week even though Marcus and Nick told her how they felt about her. It should have been a great week for her. She had 2 of her top guys sharing their feelings but she's melting down and declaring the Fairytale too good to be true because Josh confronted her about the lie detector test. Just look at the difference in how she handled Nick's discomfort at the Mime date and Josh's discomfort at the Lie detector test.
What I see with Nick since episode 5 is a lot of producer manipulation to keep the drama going with the guys. She chooses Nick in Venice IN FRONT OF THE GUYS for the first 2nd 1on1. He grabs her at the cocktail party before she can even greet the other guys. He does a sneak over and also gets a rose and extra time on the GD. He interrupts Brian's time with a rose on his chest.
What I see with Andi and Josh since week 7 is manufactured drama to instill doubt in the audience that he is the F1. She's not going to Tampa unless Josh spills his guts. OK I'll pretend to believe that. HTD's it's is he going to put our family first all while she's gushing to his Dad that she would LOVE to go to Aaron's games. Then it's can he cut the cord? I'd say he already did considering he agreed to do this silly show in the first place. My personal favorite is, Josh is too happy. What, he wasn't serious enough for you during the argument over the lie detector test?

There's also the body language. It changed with Nick. I always go back and watch the dates without the noise. It's way to easy to get caught up in the romantic music and the gushing words to really see what's going on. IMO, Nick was a project for Andi. Her job was to make him believe in the process, and boy did she ever. I like Andi and IMO she's been one of the most focused, serious leads we've had, but even I think she went way overboard in her excitement during Nick's GD alone time on episode 7. Didn't ring true IMO.

[Guest]

Yeah I am personally on the side of cautious when it comes to the friends on SM because even if my friend lost or was the F2 I would still be supporting them and cheering for them each week, it's what friends do...  Because if Nick is F2 I am sure his friends are still supportive....

  

me too. i've seen some josh fans lately saying tweets are clues that personally i don't consider clues at all. it's hard to be unbiased but it is much easier when your pick turns out to be the F1. jmo.

[stuckinsc]

Yeah I am personally on the side of cautious when it comes to the friends on SM because even if my friend lost or was the F2 I would still be supporting them and cheering for them each week, it's what friends do...  Because if Nick is F2 I am sure his friends are still supportive....

  

me too. i've seen some josh fans lately saying tweets are clues that personally i don't consider clues at all. it's hard to be unbiased but it is much easier when your pick turns out to be the F1. jmo.

     

[Alanna]

YMMV but I cannot believe his friends would tweet stuff like "another guy engaged!" if there was some possibility that he wasn't engaged and they're about to see his heart broken on tv. That's going to be a pretty awkward boys night if they don't have a very good idea that things went in his favor. JMO.

[nannymargie]

YMMV but I cannot believe his friends would tweet stuff like "another guy engaged!" if there was some possibility that he wasn't engaged and they're about to see his heart broken on tv. That's going to be a pretty awkward boys night if they don't have a very good idea that things went in his favor. JMO.

They can tell by how happy he is. It's not that hard to figure out. IMO After all they know him pretty well.

[Kashathediva]

No offense to anyone, but the Murrays are very media savy.  While all of Atlanta, Athens and Tampa "know" that Josh is F1, I don't see the Murrays or Josh being stupid enough to let that slip.

Perhaps it was allowed more because of the plane video, but it would still be weird that Josh is allowed to tell that many people.  The video was a mistake if not a set up.  Telling anyone outside of family is directly, on purpose breaking the contract.

Josh is too smart for that.

IA the Murray's are media savvy, however Josh has told his closest friends and unfortunately they have loose lips.  All it took was one of those buddies to slip, and that's how it spreads like wildfire.  

BTW, I don't know how they can hold anyone to one of those contracts.  You don't have to "tell" anyone anything, you can convey what you want simply by an expression.

Media savvy? IDK.
If the snapchat is real, that is not savvy.
FB and tweets from family members before the show airing? Not savvy.
JMOAA---there has not been a lot of savvy on many fronts this season. Maybe TPTB don't care and it's ok.

[Beagle]

I take Andi's liking of specific tweets with a grain of salt. Would she really want to be so obvious so close to the end? Makes no sense.
If this show was a debate, each team could make a compelling argument as to who the winner is.

Nicely done TPTB!

IMO, Andi has been extremely obvious from the beginning through SM as to who is F1. Neither she, nor her best friend, nor the F1 family have bothered to hold back one bit.

Most compelling ending is how Chris describes the finale this season.

Seriously....unless someone on this board physically saw the FRC, how do we know who is the F1????

I am TeamNick. I like the Nick and Andi story much more than the Josh and Andi story, but I believe the plane video is real. There are 2 weeks left for the finale and I have yet to see, other than the edited story that I have enjoy tremendously on my screen, one single clue post show that shows Nick is F1. The ones listed are all subject to interpretation, they are not convincing enough for me. IF he turns out to be F1, I would be happy but completely blown away at the execution of the foilers.

[laurentx]

True that Kasha! Perhaps it's time TPTB update their contracts very specifically, relative to social media... very difficult to control in this day and age.

Thought it was funny when Josh acknowledged on Twitter all the Snapchat friend requests, after RS posted the screenshot of his account. Not sure if it was a joke or if he truly did not know why he was bombarded..

[SueSt]

IMO, Andi has been extremely obvious from the beginning through SM as to who is F1. Neither she, nor her best friend, nor the F1 family have bothered to hold back one bit.

Most compelling ending is how Chris describes the finale this season.

Seriously....unless someone on this board physically saw the FRC, how do we know who is the F1????[/quote]

I am TeamNick. I like the Nick and Andi story much more than the Josh and Andi story, but I believe the plane video is real. There are 2 weeks left for the finale and I have yet to see, other than the edited story that I have enjoy tremendously on my screen, one single clue post show that shows Nick is F1. The ones listed are all subject to interpretation, they are not convincing enough for me. IF he turns out to be F1, I would be happy but completely blown away at the execution of the foilers.

Seriously...unless someone on this board physically saw the FRC, how do we know who is the F1????

YES - thanks for this, Beagle.
We still don't know who is F1.
We all have our Favs.... and can back it up with SM... but we still don't KNOW.

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