Re: The Bachelorette 10 - Videos- Youtube - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[Piper61]

Truly, I think Andi could pick either one, she has a great connection with both Nick and Josh.  I think this is part of my problem this season, some people see one great connection.  I have seen two for a while, I can't discount Nick or Josh and for me I don't understand how others can so easily.  I can see her picking either one and to me it isn't a slam dunk.  Josh is that OMG chemistry, but Nick is that guy who sneaks up on you and all of a sudden you are so attracted to him that you never quite knew you could fell this way.

She even seemed smitten with Chris at the HTDs.  Many speculated that Emily fell in love with Jef on HTDs because of the Holm family spread, so Andi wouldn't be the first to do that.

I didn't hate Andi at HTDs, and if this week we get even more fun Andi and less, MeAndI, I could truly start to get behind which ever guy she chooses.  To me, on edit alone, this is over yet.

What i get from reading here is that most here see the great chemistry she has with Josh and Nick (Chris not so much) and most of those people think the one they think is final 1 has the best chemistry, connection, yada yada. I see no one discounting Josh or Nick's connection with Andi, if you talk about Chris then yes he's been discounted for so long and it would be a shock to most here if she chooses him.

It's clear and obvious that Andi is hot for Josh and Nick, who can deny it ?

  This is the way it is for me.

[ironcat]

Considering the kind of date the producers assigned him, it would look pretty bad (not to mention pretty much give the ending away) if Andi acted standoffish with Nick, not that I believe she was at all uncomfortable fully going along with it.  I have no doubt that she had real feelings for all of her F3 guys, heck, really her F4 guys, and why not?  They are all great, very good looking men with a lot to offer, and they all treat her well.  I don't actually think she is having to fake all that much right now as far as the physical affection, and no doubt the producers are really urging her to continue to slather it on all of them.  I'm sure some women (and men) wouldn't be comfortable doing so, but Andi doesn't seem to be one of them.   But I'm also sure that she has a favorite at this point in the filming process as well, but is trying to still keep open minded, since that's what her "job" is supposed to be, and Andi is a good little soldier.

Clearly some posters are going to be shocked at the end of this.  

[stuckinsc]

For sure

Whether you loved Jef or hated him, one of my favorite things he said AFTR, was when they asked him if he minded watching Emily kiss Arie and he responded that since he had kissed girls before too, he was okay, because she was with him now.  I think if you are going to survive this, you have to have that type of attitude.  Cat had it with Sean, Chris and Nikki took the approach of only watching their parts, so whatever it takes you have to let go of what the lead did with anyone else.

Yeah i would have that attitude for sure, it's just not easy though. But i would see the end and feel that i'm with him now so who cares
But we saw that Emily had a hard time with it, so who knows (monday night, tuesday morning were always hard for them ).

Emily was so special in so many not good ways, I can't even imagine being poor Brad.

I wonder if Emily's anger with Brad was actually her guilt at not really wanting him, or already looking at other men and thinking, crap I am stuck with Brad.

I was sure there multiple break ups post show were her jealousy that Ashley was getting to be the bachelorette, even the lovely breakup special, that was so look at poor me, my heart is broken, AGAIN!  

[Piper61]

Truly, I think Andi could pick either one, she has a great connection with both Nick and Josh.  I think this is part of my problem this season, some people see one great connection.  I have seen two for a while, I can't discount Nick or Josh and for me I don't understand how others can so easily.  I can see her picking either one and to me it isn't a slam dunk.  Josh is that OMG chemistry, but Nick is that guy who sneaks up on you and all of a sudden you are so attracted to him that you never quite knew you could fell this way.

She even seemed smitten with Chris at the HTDs.  Many speculated that Emily fell in love with Jef on HTDs because of the Holm family spread, so Andi wouldn't be the first to do that.

I didn't hate Andi at HTDs, and if this week we get even more fun Andi and less, MeAndI, I could truly start to get behind which ever guy she chooses.  To me, on edit alone, this is over yet.

IA with you. I don't see it with just one guy. I see it right from epi 1 with Josh and Nick, and to some extent with Chris. They haven't shown enough of Chris, but the edit thread has a lot of good observations. When one is focused on their favourite, they are not looking at other possibilities. I have no favourite, all I want is a happy proposal. There have been many many hot moments with Nick. I don't know if she's acting with one or both or if she is really torn between the two. I never doubted her oscar performance abilities, so who ever F2 is, I'm sure at that moment of being let go, it will for sure be shocking.

I know they always show us the lead is in love with two and can't decide, so I'm sure we'll see that again.

Whether it is Josh or Nick, they will both be shocked. And right now, looking at the FD clip posted today of Nick and Andi, clearly he had to be 100% confident that Andi was only into him.

[Guest]

For the person that said no way would Andi let Nick go after that water romp, I humbly ask you to check out Arie, if I'm not mistaken, Emily still has his tonsils  I think these contestants do get caught up in the moment.

[Piper61]

Considering the kind of date the producers assigned him, it would look pretty bad (not to mention pretty much give the ending away) if Andi acted standoffish with Nick, not that I believe she was at all uncomfortable fully going along with it.  I have no doubt that she had really feelings for all of her F3 guys, heck, really her F4 guys, and why not?  They are all great, very good looking men with a lot to offer, and they all treat her well.  I don't actually think she is having to fake all that much right now as far as the physical affection, and no doubt the producers are really urging her to continue to slather it on all of them.  I'm sure some women (and men) wouldn't be comfortable doing so, but Andi doesn't seem to be one of them.   But I'm also sure that she has a favorite at this point in the filming process as well, but is trying to still keep open minded, since that's what her "job" is supposed to be, and Andi is a good little soldier.

Clearly some posters are going to be shocked at the end of this.   

  I agree.

[bilolo]

Considering the kind of date the producers assigned him, it would look pretty bad (not to mention pretty much give the ending away) if Andi acted standoffish with Nick, not that I believe she was at all uncomfortable fully going along with it.  I have no doubt that she had really feelings for all of her F3 guys, heck, really her F4 guys, and why not?  They are all great, very good looking men with a lot to offer, and they all treat her well.  I don't actually think she is having to fake all that much right now as far as the physical affection, and no doubt the producers are really urging her to continue to slather it on all of them.  I'm sure some women (and men) wouldn't be comfortable doing so, but Andi doesn't seem to be one of them.   But I'm also sure that she has a favorite at this point in the filming process as well, but is trying to still keep open minded, since that's what her "job" is supposed to be, and Andi is a good little soldier.

Clearly some posters are going to be shocked at the end of this.   

Yes to this, i wanted to say it, i sure would not be able to do it.

Yes to second bolded.  

[ironcat]

It's interesting because usually the producers set up at least 2 dates in a highly romantic setting, this season it appears there is only one, unless the sneak peaks are misleading. Clearly, the editing is going to try to lead viewers to think that Nick is F1 after this episode, by him having this date. Deliberate much?

[SueSt]

It's interesting because usually the producers set up at least 2 dates in a highly romantic setting, this season it appears there is only one, unless the sneak peaks are misleading.  Clearly, the editing is going to try to lead viewers to think that Nick is F1 after this episode, by him having this date.  Deliberate much?

Mura suggested that there is only one highly romantic date because Andi is now in pull back mode with the other guys... wanting to demonstrate to her/Nick's family and the world that it's just Nick.

[nannymargie]

For the person that said no way would Andi let Nick go after that water romp, I humbly ask you to check out Arie, if I'm not mistaken, Emily still has his tonsils  I think these contestants do get caught up in the moment.

Thanks for the reminder...I needed a pick me up. Josh is the one she won't be able to let go.

[isittrue]

It's interesting because usually the producers set up at least 2 dates in a highly romantic setting, this season it appears there is only one, unless the sneak peaks are misleading.  Clearly, the editing is going to try to lead viewers to think that Nick is F1 after this episode, by him having this date.  Deliberate much?

Mura suggested that there is only one highly romantic date because Andi is now in pull back mode with the other guys... wanting to demonstrate to her/Nick's family and the world that it's just Nick.  

I can see both sides.  Still having nagging doubts about everything this season and what has transpired since.  Still can be any of F3 are F1 based on compelling arguments on all sides.  The spoiler supports Josh and I can see chemistry there but I also see JBF's editing analyses and the possibility of them hiding Chris and see how he thinks its Chris and I see Mura's analysis and the chemistry between Nick and Andi and I don't know what to think.  Bravo to TPTB to turning a predictable season until an unpredictable one.  My gut still says it's Josh as F1 and Nick and Chris are both in running for bachelor, although filming makes me think its Nick as next Bachelor.

[Ash2214]

In my eyes, and this 100% is not to say Andi was faking it, but it is quite easy to be passionate with someone you find attractive while you're on a beach in the ocean. It is not easy, however, to genuinely be happy and enjoy someone's company while on a date like the one production gave Josh or Chris, but yet there's a large difference between those two dates. I see Andi genuinely happy with Josh, but I don't see it with Chris, and that's not to be a negative to Chris as a man either.

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