Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not? part 2

Maggenzm wrote:

SueSt wrote:

Max64 wrote:JBF, I love reading your recaps, they're always so insightful and entertaining!  

I don't know, why I watch Josh and Andi together, and especially when you read your recaps (it's nice to see it in black and white) I can't help but feel a little dejavu of Des' season.  Maybe not that Josh bows out but more that Des realizes what she needs.  At the M & G Andi in a PI says that Josh is her type, the nailed it, but then there's a reason why I'm still single... Maybe my type is going to change"    Didn't Des say something similar about Brooks?  Then again, maybe it's just their "conflict"

In Des' season she didn't have any conflict with Chris, he was just always there, and what she needed?

Emily's season...did she have a conflict with Jef or was he just there again for her after the drama?

Ashley's season, I don't recall her having any conflict with JP either, Ashley's was getting over Bentley??

Ali's season, wasn't it that Ali was concerned if Roberto would love her?

Good points Max.  Following your reasoning, it makes a lot of sense that Andi rejects "her type" Josh and chooses Nick... and by the way, wasn't it Nick that 'took care' of Andi when Eric leaves?   

Andi let Nick go after she realized he was not friend with the others and was cocky. Last week episode, she told Nick that she finds a man who is liked by others very attractive, and Nick is not that person. There is a new video clip on ABC for next week episode where Nick is shown as cocky, selfish, not friendly, and not a gentleman that Andi is looking for. The video in the plane is real not set up.

gabriele wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

ironcat wrote:We really don't know what Chris, Brian or any of the others would do if given the same options, the producers are very sneaky in the way they get the contestants to go along with stuff.  But because the story line is that Nick is the arrogant one who steps on everyone's toes, clearly he was the only one who would be offered this "bonus".

Why would any one accept such an offer that will make him look like an uncaring, selfish person? This is a character flow. Marcus said it best, that's his personality. Chris also said it, your true color always shines through, soon or later Andi will catch up with him and will be sent home.

a lot of it is editing. he is friends with the other guys post-show.

Aunties_Love wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

Piper61 wrote:^^^It doesn't have to be a forum member though, does it?  Couldn't anyone just reading through the threads bring that over to him?  

Yes, anyone just reading. Besides, we are having too much fun gathering clues for our fav that we have no time for RS.

By the way Josh is F1, not because of what RS said, but because of how Andi feels about him and vice versa. Just wait, you'll see.

I just don't see it and I really don't know how we can say that Josh IS F1 till the finale??????

JBF wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

Yes, anyone just reading. Besides, we are having too much fun gathering clues for our fav that we have no time for RS.

By the way Josh is F1, not because of what RS said, but because of how Andi feels about him and vice versa. Just wait, you'll see.

I just don't see it and I really don't know how we can say that Josh IS F1 till the finale??????

You know I won't debate everybody here. Then again, I am the Naughty One this season daring to question the spoilers. I must pay the consequences!

He is a very entertaining guy and I greatly enjoy watching him. Much of his "drama" is much to do about nothing. Does it matter that he told three lies on a lie detector test? JJ lied about his bedroom performance and has no qualms about it. He admitted on screen that he LOVES to fib. (That silly business of Andy "bragging" about a hostess' number was a huge exaggeration and accusing Andy for the "blackie" comment was deliciously dirty. JJ rocks, man! The ultimate Machiavelli.)

I think something nd4reality posted a while back echoes how I feel about Josh. He and Andi seem too extroverted for each other. Both need a quieter type as their partner.

Maggenzm wrote:

gabriele wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

Why would any one accept such an offer that will make him look like an uncaring, selfish person? This is a character flow. Marcus said it best, that's his personality. Chris also said it, your true color always shines through, soon or later Andi will catch up with him and will be sent home.

a lot of it is editing. he is friends with the other guys post-show.

Yes, he is. It is easy to be friends when you are not challenged. Challenges reveals someones character or true color. This is the real Nick. He is not a bad guy, he is just not ready for marriage, specially not to Andi. Pookie is daddy's girl, she need someone who is selfless who has no problem giving her the attention she needs. I think Josh, Chris, Marcus, or Brian fit this description, question is who she feels deeply for and is herself with, so far Josh is that person. JMO

emad0722 wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

gabriele wrote:

a lot of it is editing. he is friends with the other guys post-show.

Yes, he is. It is easy to be friends when you are not challenged. Challenges reveals someones character or true color. This is the real Nick. He is not a bad guy, he is just not ready for marriage, specially not to Andi. Pookie is daddy's girl, she need someone who is selfless who has no problem giving her the attention she needs. I think Josh, Chris, Marcus, or Brian fit this description, question is who she feels deeply for and is herself with, so far Josh is that person. JMO

Sorry why is Nick not ready for marriage exactly??  Obviously assuming the spoiler he isn't going to marry Andi and my assumption would be that he is ok with that. Everyone wants to be with that person that will give them the same love in return. Pretty sure in Nicks first 1-1 that he felt that his life experiences meant he was fortunate enough to knows when it will be forever.

Maggenzm wrote:

gabriele wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

Why would any one accept such an offer that will make him look like an uncaring, selfish person? This is a character flow. Marcus said it best, that's his personality. Chris also said it, your true color always shines through, soon or later Andi will catch up with him and will be sent home.

a lot of it is editing. he is friends with the other guys post-show.

Yes, he is. It is easy to be friends when you are not challenged. Challenges reveals someones character or true color. This is the real Nick. He is not a bad guy, he is just not ready for marriage, specially not to Andi. Pookie is daddy's girl, she need someone who is selfless who has no problem giving her the attention she needs. I think Josh, Chris, Marcus, or Brian fit this description, question is who she feels deeply for and is herself with, so far Josh is that person. JMO

FLChica wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

gabriele wrote:

a lot of it is editing. he is friends with the other guys post-show.

Yes, he is. It is easy to be friends when you are not challenged. Challenges reveals someones character or true color. This is the real Nick. He is not a bad guy, he is just not ready for marriage, specially not to Andi. Pookie is daddy's girl, she need someone who is selfless who has no problem giving her the attention she needs. I think Josh, Chris, Marcus, or Brian fit this description, question is who she feels deeply for and is herself with, so far Josh is that person. JMO

So if I'm understanding this...  Nick is an uncaring and selfish person because he is focused on developing his relationship with MeAndi?  He is selfish because he put MeAndi first over bromances in the house - as CH instructed the guys to do?  When TPTB asked him to "sneak" over to MeAndi's room - with camera crew in tow - should he have insisted on taking the other guys along to show how considerate he is?   He does all of these things knowing he will incur the wrath of his fellow contestants, but he isn't giving MeAndi the attention she needs?  

I'd be a little more concerned about a 30 year old contestant that hasn't managed to have a relationship with a young lady in over five years.  My humble opinion of course.

FLChica wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

gabriele wrote:

a lot of it is editing. he is friends with the other guys post-show.

Yes, he is. It is easy to be friends when you are not challenged. Challenges reveals someones character or true color. This is the real Nick. He is not a bad guy, he is just not ready for marriage, specially not to Andi. Pookie is daddy's girl, she need someone who is selfless who has no problem giving her the attention she needs. I think Josh, Chris, Marcus, or Brian fit this description, question is who she feels deeply for and is herself with, so far Josh is that person. JMO

So if I'm understanding this...  Nick is an uncaring and selfish person because he is focused on developing his relationship with MeAndi?  He is selfish because he put MeAndi first over bromances in the house - as CH instructed the guys to do?  When TPTB asked him to "sneak" over to MeAndi's room - with camera crew in tow - should he have insisted on taking the other guys along to show how considerate he is?   He does all of these things knowing he will incur the wrath of his fellow contestants, but he isn't giving MeAndi the attention she needs?  

I'd be a little more concerned about a 30 year old contestant that hasn't managed to have a relationship with a young lady in over five years.  My humble opinion of course.