Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not? part 2

Hotmomma wrote:

ironcat wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Nicks escapage was staged just like Seans and Arie's was on Emily's season and Clare was  permitted to go visit JaunP on his.
Both Clare and Nick were easily manipulated by the producers with their little entrance stunt and his  "special treatment" wooing of Andi.

Yep.  And it's no coincidence that both of them have been portrayed as monopolizing too much of the lead's time, in the eyes of the other contestants, already.  Feeds right into the storyline, ie, if Chris or Brian had done it, who'd care or even believe it of them?

But we must remember that two days later on the group date she chose Nick to receive the GDR and have dinner and fireworks..she could have given it to any of the guys there that didn't have a second 1/1 and a all nighter..
So it does makes ME wonder.

Hotmomma wrote:

ironcat wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Nicks escapage was staged just like Seans and Arie's was on Emily's season and Clare was  permitted to go visit JaunP on his.
Both Clare and Nick were easily manipulated by the producers with their little entrance stunt and his  "special treatment" wooing of Andi.

Yep.  And it's no coincidence that both of them have been portrayed as monopolizing too much of the lead's time, in the eyes of the other contestants, already.  Feeds right into the storyline, ie, if Chris or Brian had done it, who'd care or even believe it of them?

But we must remember that two days later on the group date she chose Nick to receive the GDR and have dinner and fireworks..she could have given it to any of the guys there that didn't have a second 1/1 and a all nighter..
So it does makes ME wonder.

Hotmomma wrote:I am saying Yes the producers allow Nick to go see her and set it up to be possible.However Andi was happy to spend more time with Nick..because she also granted Nick MORE time after the Group date..So she wanted to spend More time with Nick than anyone else on the group date.

ironcat wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:I am saying Yes the producers allow Nick to go see her and set it up to be possible.However Andi was happy to spend more time with Nick..because she also granted Nick MORE time after the Group date..So she wanted to spend More time with Nick than anyone else on the group date.

Agreed. In this case, the producers' wishes and Andi's were the same, albeit for different reasons. :Nod: 

Hotmomma wrote:I am saying Yes the producers allow Nick to go see her and set it up to be possible.However Andi was happy to spend more time with Nick..because she also granted Nick MORE time after the Group date..So she wanted to spend More time with Nick than anyone else on the group date.

SueSt wrote:

Max64 wrote:JBF, I love reading your recaps, they're always so insightful and entertaining!  

I don't know, why I watch Josh and Andi together, and especially when you read your recaps (it's nice to see it in black and white) I can't help but feel a little dejavu of Des' season.  Maybe not that Josh bows out but more that Des realizes what she needs.  At the M & G Andi in a PI says that Josh is her type, the nailed it, but then there's a reason why I'm still single... Maybe my type is going to change"    Didn't Des say something similar about Brooks?  Then again, maybe it's just their "conflict"

In Des' season she didn't have any conflict with Chris, he was just always there, and what she needed?

Emily's season...did she have a conflict with Jef or was he just there again for her after the drama?

Ashley's season, I don't recall her having any conflict with JP either, Ashley's was getting over Bentley??

Ali's season, wasn't it that Ali was concerned if Roberto would love her?

Good points Max.  Following your reasoning, it makes a lot of sense that Andi rejects "her type" Josh and chooses Nick... and by the way, wasn't it Nick that 'took care' of Andi when Eric leaves?   

stuckinsc wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Yep.  And it's no coincidence that both of them have been portrayed as monopolizing too much of the lead's time, in the eyes of the other contestants, already.  Feeds right into the storyline, ie, if Chris or Brian had done it, who'd care or even believe it of them?

But we must remember that two days later on the group date she chose Nick to receive the GDR and have dinner and fireworks..she could have given it to any of the guys there that didn't have a second 1/1 and a all nighter..
So it does makes ME wonder.

To me she is still undecided right now. She really likes Nick and Josh.  The others are filler.  I will wait to see Nick's sneak out for myself.  And yes, it is totally producer induced or that is the worst hotel in the history of the world.  Just like when Arie, Clare, and Courtney knew right where to find the lead.  Producers.  

I do think Nick wanted to make this as much about the real world as possible.  Also didn't someone say the group date was actually before this by time stamps?  

I could see her picking either Nick or Josh at this point, but think they are both better off without MeAndi.

GuardianAngel wrote:This is the way I see it.

Ali couldn't believe someone as good looking as Roberto would fall for her. Ali didn't think she was good enough for him. Roberto was the one that was there for her, keeping her focused. He mentioned several times to remember to look at him,(making the V sign with his fingers bringing it to his eyes) whenever she felt insecure. He was laid back, no drama, he was confident in a humbling way.

ChrisL was from Massachusetts, same as Ali. He was for the most part the favourite. They focused on his backstory about his Mom, rainbows, and his heartbreak loosing her.

With Josh the conflict is his perceived reputation of an athlete (even though he hasn't been an athlete for years.)

With Nick, he was sceptical going into this, and she feels its her job to encourage him the process works.

ironcat wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Yep.  And it's no coincidence that both of them have been portrayed as monopolizing too much of the lead's time, in the eyes of the other contestants, already.  Feeds right into the storyline, ie, if Chris or Brian had done it, who'd care or even believe it of them?

But we must remember that two days later on the group date she chose Nick to receive the GDR and have dinner and fireworks..she could have given it to any of the guys there that didn't have a second 1/1 and a all nighter..
So it does makes ME wonder.

Don't quite understand what you're saying.  I don't doubt that of the choices, Andi was most interested in spending more time with Nick, but the producers chose Nick to "sneak out" because their storyline is that he is too aggressive and this was a "d-bag move" that only he would do.  If they suggested it to Chris, for example, and he went and visited Andi secretly, not only would the guys probably not be so upset, but the fan reaction would probably also not be so negative, because Chris is a "good guy", according to the edit.  Whereas Nick is "Tricky Nicky".  

ironcat wrote:We really don't know what Chris, Brian or any of the others would do if given the same options, the producers are very sneaky in the way they get the contestants to go along with stuff. But because the story line is that Nick is the arrogant one who steps on everyone's toes, clearly he was the only one who would be offered this "bonus".