Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not? part 2

Where's the picture of Josh coming back from DR? I haven't seen it.

missjayne wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

missjayne wrote:

When RS was wrong last season post show clues seemed to show Brooks was not F1 and that it could be Chris. RS ignored them for some reason. I'm still curious what made him think Brooks was F1. This time clues are there that show RS is most likely correct this time..however because of what happened last season with Des it's making people not believe him totally...but this isn't like last season because clues are pointing more towards him being correct this time..but  I guess nothing is for sure.

My point though, this season we seem to be inondated with Josh F1 clues ONLY though.  Too many in fact for me to feel confident that they aren't a foiler ploy.  I am really thinking we are looking at who Fleiss wants us to think is F1 versus who is actually the F1.

I just don't think Fleiss is that good or that desperate to trick RS...well maybe, because he has done it before, but we haven't really known why or how RS got fooled. This video looks so real...I just don't see MF going to those lengths to trick RS...because many seasons he can't or hasn't tried hard enough to and doesn't care. If he really cared RS would be wrong way more than he is right.

I think Fleiss cares a lot. If not, why would he be going the legal route to get RS shut down? I feel that Fleiss fooled RS once before and will take pleasure in doing it again and again, and again....and as many times as he can. They have the money and resources to make RS like an idiot so they will. Again, it was called wild speculation when I mentioned it on Des's season and I think we are up for another one now.

cindebugg wrote:Where's the picture of Josh coming back from DR?  I haven't seen it.

Either in his threads or in the filming/sleuthing threads...forgot which one.

To me the main sticky point is the Nick plane video. Pure and simple.

Is it true or fake/setup?

Please feel free to add to both lists below on what makes me think it could be either:

True:
- setting it up would be huge, and to my mind would be detrimental to the show.... i.e if a leading (F1) contestant is willing to fake that much, it says a lot about the show (I know! We all know its not real... but would this not explode a lot more out to the general public?)
- Some think Nick sounded really upset and bitter, as per F2
- If it was fake, would they not have him even more upset (some have commented he sounds calm...) and the content even more damning... "I love her so much, I cant believe she is lost to me...")
- Obviously started mid-convo, i.e. we dont here the bits that made the recorder pick up their phone and press the red button!


Fake:
- the extent to which Fleiss would go to "get" RS is yet unknown...
- Some think Nick just doesnt sound upset enough.... (eyes... beholder...)
- Started mid-convo... i.e. to make it look real rather than a set-up (Trust me, if it is a set-up, they would have thought of everything!)


To me, I am still going for true... I do think Nick just isnt upset enough in words nor tone... but from what I have seeen on-screen, even when he is pissed off or excited, his demeanour and tone remain flat...

If the video is true, Andi is plain lying about the type of protective, assertive guy she wants. The Andi we know wouldn't sign up for her f1 to make a video like this.

Alanna wrote:If the video is true, Andi is plain lying about the type of protective, assertive guy she wants. The Andi we know wouldn't sign up for her f1 to make a video like this.

You mean if the video is fake, right?

sophienette wrote:

Alanna wrote:If the video is true, Andi is plain lying about the type of protective, assertive guy she wants. The Andi we know wouldn't sign up for her f1 to make a video like this.

You mean if the video is fake, right?

Haha right! Sorry! Thank goodness someone can decipher me

  

Posting this three times so all eyes can see it...

sophienette wrote:

JBF wrote:If it means THAT much to him... I give up.

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Does he want my blood too?

Why should he even care what we little fry think?

Just read it... and really he doesnt! And we dont care what he thinks... I might not think you are right on Chris ass F1, but it's your opinion and your analysis... And at least it's got more back up than his... which has none that he gave
all's well!  

Oh you are a cute one: "Chris ass F1"

My comment was taken out of context. Because I guessed Clare last season, I posted a jack-ass photo at the end of the season for MYSELF. Many here probably understood the joke.

It had NOTHING to do with HIM. Perhaps he took offense to that?

That is the problem I tend to have. People read part of something I say and take it the wrong way at times.

No... Reality Steve... I was NOT calling YOU a jack-ass.

I may tease you as Yee Spoiler King, but I leave it at that.

Why do WE CARE of what HE thinks?..

this is actually from a person who brought JBF's post to RS :

..I think I just got dumber for reading that. Trust me when I say you do not want to venture over there. Those people are cray-zay and claim to not be obsessed with the show, but all they do is comment back and forth to each other all day long. I’m scared!!!!!

RS's Comment: So what you’re saying is a nameless, faceless person is talking about me and my site all day long? Shocking.

And yes, you did get dumber for reading that. Holy crap there are some stupid people out there. . Let them write whatever they want. It’s nonsense, they’re irrelevant, and no one cares.

well, maybe we are cay2 and stupid..but at least we are having fun....  . He is so full of himself that I would love for him to get another nice kaboom present again...  

Carry ON!...  .

Aunties_Love wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
One thing that I thought of and I don't know how we can go about proving it as we don't have any sleuthing info past HTD's, but what if all 4 went to DR.  Even though Josh came back, we have the pic, and Nick came back, we have the vid, what if Chris and Marcus hadn't come back that early??  What if either or both of them were the actual F2?

Leaving the BIP spoiler aside, all we know is when Chris actually got back on social media as a clue. I think it was either the day before or after Nick I can't remember. Of the 3, Josh was on there first. scmiiw.
Marcus didn't resurface on social media till 3 weeks after the FRC and which is more than a month after his elimination. He was first sighted 3 weeks after his elimination in pictures taken in Dallas. Prior to that he was in Kasha's attic getting a good tan using her sunroof.  
That is what we have for Chris and Marcus. If that makes any difference.

Thanks ND, so if we go by the social media, then Chris and Marcus were the last ones to appear. IF, and IF RS is wrong, then reasonably speaking, the F2 could be Chris and Marcus.  IF all four guys go to DR(wouldn't surprise me if Fleiss wants to keep things more quiet this time), then feasibly, we have the cap of Josh coming back from DR, we have Nick on a flight, then a day or two later, Chris shows up followed by Marcus.

I know I made the wild accusations and theories during des's season that RS was wrong and it was actually someone else as F2....hense it turned out that way.  Why can't it again??

Yes it can be again. I think the likelyhood of that happening are very slim but possible.

As I have said in previous posts - Both Nick and Josh fans have gathered enough arsenal to fight the good fight. IMO of course.

This is the season of looselips. No doubt about it. It is hard to believe that EVRYONE is in on the gigantic foiler. In fact it seems like EVERYONE is feeding the fire, each in their own way. From Nick talking about a private convo in a very public place, Andi's father, Josh's family, Chris on social media and Marcus on BIP.


I would love love love this to be a gigantic foiler for both RS AND this board. In my head I can so see how they could accomplish this by well placed tweets and leaked false information.

I just wonder if there are too many players to orchestrate ?

murasaki1393 wrote:Why do WE CARE of what HE thinks?..

this is actually from a person who brought JBF's post to RS :

..I think I just got dumber for reading that. Trust me when I say you do not want to venture over there. Those people are cray-zay and claim to not be obsessed with the show, but all they do is comment back and forth to each other all day long. I’m scared!!!!!

RS's Comment: So what you’re saying is a nameless, faceless person is talking about me and my site all day long? Shocking.

And yes, you did get dumber for reading that. Holy crap there are some stupid people out there. . Let them write whatever they want. It’s nonsense, they’re irrelevant, and no one cares.

well, maybe we are cay2 and stupid..but at least we are having fun....  . He is so full of himself that I would love for him to get another nice kaboom present again...  

Carry ON!...  .

This is one of the many reasons he will never get his own thread. This has been going on for many years now. It's shocking that anyone from any forum would run to him with info considering his opinions, on the very same place he gets his info from.