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Post by happygolucky Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:03 pm

ironcat wrote:I also think that if Nick's parents were concerned that their little girl was so sensitive or would be so affected by something that Andi might say or promise, they probably would not have given the producers permission to orchestrate that scene where she "grills" the Bachelorette in the first place.
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Post by 2observe Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:04 pm

ironcat wrote:I really doubt that a 9 year old was traumatized because some woman she met for a few hours asked her that question.  Even if Andi flat out told her "I'm marrying your brother", it would mean nothing to her (nothing real anyway), and she probably forgot about it by the next day, IMO.  Just like Ty Mesnick was not traumatized in the least by the fact that his father did the show twice and proposed to 3 different women within a year.  From my experience, kids are incredibly resilient and don't get all bent out of shape by things people say who they barely know.

I also think that if Nick's parents were concerned that their little girl was so sensitive or would be so affected by something that Andi might say or promise, they probably would not have given the producers permission to orchestrate that scene where she "grills" the Bachelorette in the first place.
IC, did someone say something about Nick's sister being traumatized??  I was wondering if Andi asking his sister if she would accept her as a sister was a possible clue to whether Nick is F1.
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Post by happygolucky Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:10 pm

2observe wrote:IC, did someone say something about Nick's sister being traumatized??  I was wondering if Andi asking his sister if she would accept her as a sister was a possible clue to whether Nick is F1.
I wonder that too. - Since I haven't seen the scene yet (waiting till tomorrow morning to watch the show) I only deduct from all of your comments what the conversation is about.


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Post by ironcat Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:13 pm

2observe wrote:
ironcat wrote:I really doubt that a 9 year old was traumatized because some woman she met for a few hours asked her that question.  Even if Andi flat out told her "I'm marrying your brother", it would mean nothing to her (nothing real anyway), and she probably forgot about it by the next day, IMO.  Just like Ty Mesnick was not traumatized in the least by the fact that his father did the show twice and proposed to 3 different women within a year.  From my experience, kids are incredibly resilient and don't get all bent out of shape by things people say who they barely know.

I also think that if Nick's parents were concerned that their little girl was so sensitive or would be so affected by something that Andi might say or promise, they probably would not have given the producers permission to orchestrate that scene where she "grills" the Bachelorette in the first place.
IC, did someone say something about Nick's sister being traumatized??  I was wondering if Andi asking his sister if she would accept her as a sister was a possible clue to whether Nick is F1.

Sorry, my mistake.  I thought someone, maybe not you, compared Andi making that comment to Meredith telling Matt she would be honored to accept a ring, ie, in both cases, it was "unforgiveable" to lead him/her on like that.  My point was that in the case of a child, that kind of comment rolls right off their back and they aren't "traumatized" by being let down.


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Post by Cecilia Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:14 pm

happygolucky wrote:
2observe wrote:IC, did someone say something about Nick's sister being traumatized??  I was wondering if Andi asking his sister if she would accept her as a sister was a possible clue to whether Nick is F1.
I wonder that too. - Since I haven't seen the scene yet (waiting till tomorrow morning to watch the show) I only deduct from all of your comments what the conversation is about.

I think maybe one of the sisters was "skeptical" but it could have been any one of them, probably not the 9 year-old.
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Post by Guest Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:28 pm

Ash2214 wrote:I think sometimes people forget that the lead is doing a job. Yes, they're trying to fall in love, but they're there to do a job too. That's the reason why most of them get paid at least $50,000. This is a job which includes acting and so forth. I do think for all leads there are certainly feelings involved especially with their F4, but the leads are being told to say certain things and do certain things. It's the way this silly show goes and that's the reason why the real relationship starts once filming has ended and perhaps even after the airing of the episodes has ended.  

And to be real about it - some of the contestants are too, they're just not paid.  Interns if you will hoping to nab the top spot next year.  There's no way all the people who say they've fallen in love with the lead really have IMO.  But they need 4 guys for HTDs then 3 for FD etc.  Perfect case in point Andi last season.  She did her job until she didn't have to anymore.

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Post by Ash2214 Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:32 pm

relaxing wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:I think sometimes people forget that the lead is doing a job. Yes, they're trying to fall in love, but they're there to do a job too. That's the reason why most of them get paid at least $50,000. This is a job which includes acting and so forth. I do think for all leads there are certainly feelings involved especially with their F4, but the leads are being told to say certain things and do certain things. It's the way this silly show goes and that's the reason why the real relationship starts once filming has ended and perhaps even after the airing of the episodes has ended.  

And to be real about it - some of the contestants are too, they're just not paid.  Interns if you will hoping to nab the top spot next year.  There's no way all the people who say they've fallen in love with the lead really have IMO.  But they need 4 guys for HTDs then 3 for FD etc.  Perfect case in point Andi last season.  She did her job until she didn't have to anymore.

Exactly. That's why I was trying to say that people shouldn't really take too much offense to things people say or do on this show. I'm not saying real feelings can't develop, but there is a whole lot of acting that goes on with the lead and like you stated, with the contestants too.

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Post by 2observe Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:35 pm

ironcat wrote:
2observe wrote:
ironcat wrote:I really doubt that a 9 year old was traumatized because some woman she met for a few hours asked her that question.  Even if Andi flat out told her "I'm marrying your brother", it would mean nothing to her (nothing real anyway), and she probably forgot about it by the next day, IMO.  Just like Ty Mesnick was not traumatized in the least by the fact that his father did the show twice and proposed to 3 different women within a year.  From my experience, kids are incredibly resilient and don't get all bent out of shape by things people say who they barely know.

I also think that if Nick's parents were concerned that their little girl was so sensitive or would be so affected by something that Andi might say or promise, they probably would not have given the producers permission to orchestrate that scene where she "grills" the Bachelorette in the first place.
IC, did someone say something about Nick's sister being traumatized??  I was wondering if Andi asking his sister if she would accept her as a sister was a possible clue to whether Nick is F1.

Sorry, my mistake.  I thought someone, maybe not you, compared Andi making that comment to Meredith telling Matt she would be honored to accept a ring, ie, in both cases, it was "unforgiveable" to lead him/her on like that.  My point was that in the case of a child, that kind of comment rolls right off their back and they aren't "traumatized" by being let down.
Oh okay. I was a little confused by your response. Hugesmile 
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Post by nutty1 Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:43 pm

That was me who brought up Mer and Matt. I understand the lead has to do things, but there have been a few instances that truly bothered me, and that was one of them.


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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:16 pm

All I hope for tonight is to not see too much of Andi's sour face.

Unfortunately we have already seen it with both Chris and Josh's mother. So unattractive.


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Post by eirekay Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:40 pm

nutty1 wrote:That was me who brought up Mer and Matt. I understand the lead has to do things, but there have been a few instances that truly bothered me, and that was one of them.

Me too! I remember that vividly!

I think (and I admit to being naive) the Lead has to compartmentalize just to get through the process. In that moment, I think they let themselves get carried away by the adoration and say or do things that they regret later.

To me it's stuff like JPG playing Clare's song on the LCD that I find offensive because the Lead knows that it's being taken as confirmation that the F2 is the final one.
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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:45 pm

The worst was Andi Baldwin actually saying ILY to Bevin.

There are other douch examples - it happens all the time.


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