Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 8 - HTDs - Jul 07/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Rosepetal wrote:They usually bring the guys in one by one to the HTD RC. Maybe he is the last to arrive. Purely speculation on my part.

THIS makes perfect sense!!  That would put Josh and Nick on each end of the lineup.  And Andi will call both of their names either first or second, and then either Chris or Marcus will be let go.  Don't they always set it up this way - with the person who is being let go at the F4 RC positioned in the middle of the lineup?  That is just more of their tricky editing.  It certainly got our attention.

Longhornfan wrote:

Rosepetal wrote:They usually bring the guys in one by one to the HTD RC. Maybe he is the last to arrive. Purely speculation on my part.

THIS makes perfect sense!!  That would put Josh and Nick on each end of the lineup.  And Andi will call both of their names either first or second, and then either Chris or Marcus will be let go.  Don't they always set it up this way - with the person who is being let go at the F4 RC positioned in the middle of the lineup?  That is just more of their tricky editing.  It certainly got our attention.

Was Zak standings on the end during the HTD RC with Des?

2observe wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:

Rosepetal wrote:They usually bring the guys in one by one to the HTD RC. Maybe he is the last to arrive. Purely speculation on my part.

THIS makes perfect sense!!  That would put Josh and Nick on each end of the lineup.  And Andi will call both of their names either first or second, and then either Chris or Marcus will be let go.  Don't they always set it up this way - with the person who is being let go at the F4 RC positioned in the middle of the lineup?  That is just more of their tricky editing.  It certainly got our attention.

Was Zak standings on the end during the HTD RC with Des?

Here is what JBF posted :

JBF wrote:I used to, but it got too exhausting and there was no more consistency.

OK... I was wrong about Catherine. She was second to left, a traditionally "dangerous" position post-hometown. Marcus is in her spot. Lots of people left in that position other seasons though.



Zak and Shawntel left after hometowns too and were "end" people.

Chris is in Brooks' spot and Marcus is in Drew's spot. Nick is in Zak's spot (bye bye).

I don't believe there is any set pattern. At all.

nd4reality wrote:

2observe wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:

THIS makes perfect sense!!  That would put Josh and Nick on each end of the lineup.  And Andi will call both of their names either first or second, and then either Chris or Marcus will be let go.  Don't they always set it up this way - with the person who is being let go at the F4 RC positioned in the middle of the lineup?  That is just more of their tricky editing.  It certainly got our attention.

Was Zak standings on the end during the HTD RC with Des?

Here is what JBF posted :

JBF wrote:I used to, but it got too exhausting and there was no more consistency.

OK... I was wrong about Catherine. She was second to left, a traditionally "dangerous" position post-hometown. Marcus is in her spot. Lots of people left in that position other seasons though.



Zak and Shawntel left after hometowns too and were "end" people.

Chris is in Brooks' spot and Marcus is in Drew's spot. Nick is in Zak's spot (bye bye).

I don't believe there is any set pattern. At all.

Well Shawntel, Des & Zack all were out at HTD and they stood at the end. The fact that Josh is standing in that position could explain why he was on SM shortly after HTD eliminations AND could explain why he was seen in Cancun.

2observe wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2observe wrote:
Was Zak standings on the end during the HTD RC with Des?

Here is what JBF posted :

JBF wrote:I used to, but it got too exhausting and there was no more consistency.

OK... I was wrong about Catherine. She was second to left, a traditionally "dangerous" position post-hometown. Marcus is in her spot. Lots of people left in that position other seasons though.



Zak and Shawntel left after hometowns too and were "end" people.

Chris is in Brooks' spot and Marcus is in Drew's spot. Nick is in Zak's spot (bye bye).

I don't believe there is any set pattern. At all.

Well Shawntel, Des & Zack all were out at HTD and they stood at the end.  The fact that Josh is standing in that position could explain why he was on SM shortly after HTD eliminations AND could explain why he was seen in Cancun.

Do we have a sc of their spots? JBF said Nick was in Zak's position but you are saying Josh is?

pander3575 wrote:

2observe wrote:

nd4reality wrote:


Here is what JBF posted :





I don't believe there is any set pattern. At all.

Well Shawntel, Des & Zack all were out at HTD and they stood at the end.  The fact that Josh is standing in that position could explain why he was on SM shortly after HTD eliminations AND could explain why he was seen in Cancun.

Do we have a sc of their spots?  JBF said Nick was in Zak's position but you are saying Josh is?

No. Just that Josh in standing on the end. It was an assumption that if you are standing on the end, you're safe from elimination. I'm just saying that Josh is on the end also and could be eliminated too.

Nick is in Zac's position. Josh is in Desiree's position.

ETA: Doesn't mean a lot IMO. The pattern to me, is that there is no pattern.

Sarah_XV wrote:




Nick is in Zac's position. Josh is in Desiree's position.

ETA: Doesn't mean a lot IMO. The pattern to me, is that there is no pattern.

Josh is also in Des Chris S. position. If we go by the results of Des' Season, Marcus and Josh will be the F2; and Nick will be out at F4 and Chris at F3 according to their line-up.

Sarah_XV wrote:




Nick is in Zac's position. Josh is in Desiree's position.

ETA: Doesn't mean a lot IMO. The pattern to me, is that there is no pattern.

Yes, this is all very confusing.  But, the top picture does appear to be the actual lineup of the guys at the F4 RC, because that is the same green dress that Andi is supposed to be wearing, per the previews.

So, from Andi's view point, Nick is on the end (far left), next to him is Josh, and next to Josh is Chris.  That would mean that Marcus is on the other end (far right).  Agree?   And, does that match up with the preview that makes it appear that Nick is missing from the lineup?

I went back and looked at Emily's and it was Sean, Chris, Arie and Jef. Then on Ash it was Ben, Ames, Constantine and JP. For the Bach I only looked at JP and Claire, Nikki, Andi and Renee.

I just not sure they have a certain pattern anymore.

2observe wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

2observe wrote:
Was Zak standings on the end during the HTD RC with Des?

Here is what JBF posted :

JBF wrote:I used to, but it got too exhausting and there was no more consistency.

OK... I was wrong about Catherine. She was second to left, a traditionally "dangerous" position post-hometown. Marcus is in her spot. Lots of people left in that position other seasons though.



Zak and Shawntel left after hometowns too and were "end" people.

Chris is in Brooks' spot and Marcus is in Drew's spot. Nick is in Zak's spot (bye bye).

I don't believe there is any set pattern. At all.

Well Shawntel, Des & Zack all were out at HTD and they stood at the end.  The fact that Josh is standing in that position could explain why he was on SM shortly after HTD eliminations AND could explain why he was seen in Cancun.

I don't think line up of the final four mean anything but what caught my attention was you saying Josh was on SM after his home town date??? What????? I know this is incorrect.

Longhornfan wrote:

Sarah_XV wrote:




Nick is in Zac's position. Josh is in Desiree's position.

ETA: Doesn't mean a lot IMO. The pattern to me, is that there is no pattern.

Yes, this is all very confusing.  But, the top picture does appear to be the actual lineup of the guys at the F4 RC, because that is the same green dress that Andi is supposed to be wearing, per the previews.

So, from Andi's view point, Nick is on the end (far left), next to him is Josh, and next to Josh is Chris.  That would mean that Marcus is on the other end (far right).  Agree?   And, does that match up with the preview that makes it appear that Nick is missing from the lineup?

That is Marcus beside Nick.