Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 7 - Jun 30/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

ironcat wrote:Edited or unedited, IMO there is no way that Nick is F1 now.  I really don't see the producers presenting him this badly if Andi actually chose him.  While they seem to be okay having a "bitch" be the F1 on The Bachelor, there seems to be a different standard on the Bachelorette, where they don't want the lead's chosen one to be seen as "the devil".  Case in point, they never presented Ed or Jesse negatively by alluding to their real life two timing.

What will Hy say??? Can you imagine turning down Josh for Tricky Nicky? What would happen in the Dorfman household afterwards would be 1000x more entertaining than the show. He'd be crying for JPG to come back.

Personally, I didn't find that new preview that edited. Most of it we see him talking in an ITM and that certainly didn't seem sliced and diced to me at least.

Alanna wrote:

ironcat wrote:Edited or unedited, IMO there is no way that Nick is F1 now.  I really don't see the producers presenting him this badly if Andi actually chose him.  While they seem to be okay having a "bitch" be the F1 on The Bachelor, there seems to be a different standard on the Bachelorette, where they don't want the lead's chosen one to be seen as "the devil".  Case in point, they never presented Ed or Jesse negatively by alluding to their real life two timing.

What will Hy say??? Can you imagine turning down Josh for Tricky Nicky? What would happen in the Dorfman household afterwards would be 1000x more entertaining than the show. He'd be crying for JPG to come back.

Maybe daddy Hy will be so happy to hear Nick's only priority is his precious princess?
If we believe the plane video is true, didn't Nick say he loved Andii's parents? I hope that admiration was mutual.

Given this edit that Nick is being given, and the producers' apparent need to have the viewers hate him, I do wonder what really went down at the FRC.  Was it messy?  It wouldn't make sense to present him as this villain and then have the viewers sympathize with him the way they did with Ben on Ashley's season.  Now I'm really curious. 

^^Me, too. I wonder if Mr. SaltyPants airplane rant was spurred on by the FRC and how Andi handled it.

^^Absolutely. I think she also probably slept with both of them. That is the weirdest part about this show. Proposal following competitive coitus.  

Luvvy wrote:^^Me, too. I wonder if Mr. SaltyPants airplane rant was spurred on by the FRC and how Andi handled it.

I bet this is true. This is nothing like Ashley and Ben. I remember feeling so sorry for Ben. I wonder if Nick, in his shock, said something to Andi that made her mad. Maybe even words were exchanged. Yikes, I think we might be in for a final rose ceremony like we have never seen.  :shocked!: 

Well in the video he said that he didn't argue with her or try to change her mind he just said he disagreed. Who knows. How it all went down is the only thing we probably don't know.

Maybe I'm naive but I don't really believe that many of the Bachelorettes sleep with more than their chosen one in the FS or beyond. The only one that probably did was Jillian IMO.  

^^I think Andi probably did for a few reasons (and I don't think there is anything wrong with it - it just makes things so awkward). 1. Nick said he thought she changed her mind at the last minute. If you are not having sex in the fantasy suite why would you think you were F1. 2. I see connections with both Josh and Nick and think you might as well see how it goes in that department when making a decision. 3. If RS is correct she eliminated Chris before the overnight portion and he thinks she probably slept with both. 4. While the whole story about the pregnancy is BS the story says she slept with 2 of the 3 guys.
Of course, I don't know. Just my guess.

ironcat wrote:Maybe I'm naive but I don't really believe that many of the Bachelorettes sleep with more than their chosen one in the FS or beyond.  The only one that probably did was Jillian IMO.  

Josh broke up with a girlfriend of years (?) for kissing another guy and this is a woman he's getting engaged to tomorrow? So yeah, I don't think she did either, cannot imagine his reaction.

Ben thought he was F1 and I'm sure Ashley didn't have sex with him, heck did she ever even kiss him with tongue?    The producers/handlers really do a job on the F2 as far as convincing them that they are the chosen one. Happens every season.