Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

by sdmom Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:20 pm

lleyki wrote:
cindebugg wrote:
jen689 wrote:
nutty1 wrote:Do you think he sounds like he is over Andi?
If the plane video is legit IMO he was over Andi when the filming of the show ended

Which means he never fell in love with her to begin with. Speaking of plane videos, IMO that's the biggest dig of all. I hope he makes the needed apologies after the show is over.

I'm sorry, but apologize for what? First of all, he was having a private conversation that someone invaded and filmed without his consent. Two, if he actually believes the things he said, that is Andi is stubborn, Josh is an angry person, etc. then why should he apologize. Especially since that would make his apologies fake as he said what he meant. I'm sorry but Nick didn't call either Josh and Andi derogatory, misogynistic, offensive names, as far as I could tell. He was upset, shared his opinions about what he felt happened and that was that. In my opinion the person who deserves an apology is Nick, from that freak who filmed him without his consent and then proceeded to put it on YouTube also without his consent and send it over to that annoying toad, Reality Steve.

I know other posters have said it but I LOVE your post!
Keep in mind the conversations took place two days after FRC. I am sure Nick feels differently now since he's back to the real world.

by emad0722 Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:29 pm

sdmom wrote:
lleyki wrote:
cindebugg wrote:
jen689 wrote:
nutty1 wrote:Do you think he sounds like he is over Andi?
If the plane video is legit IMO he was over Andi when the filming of the show ended

Which means he never fell in love with her to begin with. Speaking of plane videos, IMO that's the biggest dig of all. I hope he makes the needed apologies after the show is over.

I'm sorry, but apologize for what? First of all, he was having a private conversation that someone invaded and filmed without his consent. Two, if he actually believes the things he said, that is Andi is stubborn, Josh is an angry person, etc. then why should he apologize. Especially since that would make his apologies fake as he said what he meant. I'm sorry but Nick didn't call either Josh and Andi derogatory, misogynistic, offensive names, as far as I could tell. He was upset, shared his opinions about what he felt happened and that was that. In my opinion the person who deserves an apology is Nick, from that freak who filmed him without his consent and then proceeded to put it on YouTube also without his consent and send it over to that annoying toad, Reality Steve.

I know other posters have said it but I LOVE your post!
Keep in mind the conversations took place two days after FRC. I am sure Nick feels differently now since he's back to the real world.

AGREED

by cindebugg Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:53 pm

If I'm on a plane and I'm listening to this loud talking guy, and he gives me enough clues that he's talking about TB I'm going to take out my phone and start taping. I would bet 95% of the people here would do the same thing. That's why I would never have a conversation like that in public and I bet Nick wishes he didn't either.
If this tape is legit Nick has given away the ending. That's a big No No and he could be in breach of his contract. I would imagine that he's already been doing some apologizing to TPTB. If he wants to have a post show friendship with Josh he will apologize to him too. I think he will.
I don't hate Nick and this isn't my first Bachelor rodeo. I understand the pigeon hole edit these guys get. It doesn't mean that the edit isn't somewhat true. I'm a firm believer if you don't give them questionable behavior to edit, they can't.

by Guest Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:56 pm

by sdmom Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:00 pm

I guess I am in the 5% minority who will not take my phone out to tape someone else's private conversations, public place or not. Embarressed!

by whit90 Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:05 pm

sdmom wrote:I guess I am in the 5% minority who will not take my phone out to tape someone else's private conversations, public place or not.

Neither would I especially if I had no idea who this guy was it is just to fishy to me still. :drama

by Bet2Win Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:11 pm

sdmom wrote:I guess I am in the 5% minority who will not take my phone out to tape someone else's private conversations, public place or not.

I seriously hope 95% would not record someone else's image/conversation without their consent.

by Kashathediva Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:12 pm

cindebugg wrote:If I'm on a plane and I'm listening to this loud talking guy, and he gives me enough clues that he's talking about TB I'm going to take out my phone and start taping. I would bet 95% of the people here would do the same thing. That's why I would never have a conversation like that in public and I bet Nick wishes he didn't either.
If this tape is legit Nick has given away the ending. That's a big No No and he could be in breach of his contract. I would imagine that he's already been doing some apologizing to TPTB. If he wants to have a post show friendship with Josh he will apologize to him too. I think he will.
I don't hate Nick and this isn't my first Bachelor rodeo. I understand the pigeon hole edit these guys get. It doesn't mean that the edit isn't somewhat true. I'm a firm believer if you don't give them questionable behavior to edit, they can't.

I can't speak for 95% of us, only myself.

I have had many convos (naively, ignorantly, stupidly, spontaneously, passionately- all of the above) in not the most private places in my past. I think a lot of us are guilty of this. It's a human thing.

We don't know who Nick was talking to, so it may not have been a confidentiality clause breaker... the breach is someone taping it and then sending to a person who spoils it---and that person did not sign the clause. Now, if Nick knew the person was taping the convo or would be sending it to RS--then he would be breaching, if what he was saying is true and how the season ended.

Now on to the meat of my response. IF I was on the plane with Nick and was sitting behind him, and I chose to record the convo---I would NEVER--- send this convo to a rag or in RS's case a bloggin' hag. I would keep this info for myself and disclose at the proper time and in the proper way and then still not know if it was a foiler or spoiler.
I have had info twice that was pretty damning. One time it was readily misconstrued and that person was the F2. One time that info ended up being true, and caused such a rift on a message board---well I ended up not returning to that forum.
Like I said---I am me, not 95% of the people here. I have learned, you have to be very careful in how you disseminate info and I would bet many old time sleuthers would agree with this.
BTW--I don't think I would have taped him. I would have bought him a drink and talked him up. Hugesmile

(not necessarily pumping him for info either--just talk) But that's me.

by Cecilia Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:14 pm

sdmom wrote:I guess I am in the 5% minority who will not take my phone out to tape someone else's private conversations, public place or not.

Me too. I would definitely listen!! not record.

by quietpal Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:29 pm

Cecilia wrote:
sdmom wrote:I guess I am in the 5% minority who will not take my phone out to tape someone else's private conversations, public place or not.

Me too. I would definitely listen!! not record.

Yep, me three! I would never record something like that because it's none of my business. If I heard something like that being a (somewhat) fan of the show, would I be curious? Absolutely, but recording the conversation, no.

by brittany4400 Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:31 pm

I would probably report what I heard to you guys. giggling

But never record someone's conversation!

by Guest Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:31 pm

whit90 wrote:
sdmom wrote:I guess I am in the 5% minority who will not take my phone out to tape someone else's private conversations, public place or not.

Neither would I especially if I had no idea who this guy was it is just to fishy to me still.

I wouldnt... probably Smiley

I am a Bachelor blogger after all!
But I sure would not send it to RS!

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